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- Nov 30, 2018
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Sam Walsh?All these people voting other! Would like to know who the players they think are the best in the competition?
Max Gawn? Ollie Wines?
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Sam Walsh?All these people voting other! Would like to know who the players they think are the best in the competition?
Max Gawn? Ollie Wines?
No current season stats available
I would have Oliver last out of those 5 players as the others can play as legitimate forwards and Oliver can't turn a game like the others but no disrepect intended to Oliver.
I've seen him get 40 possessions in losing games , if Petracca plays well you usually win.Respect your opinion but Oliver is better than Petracca. most dees fans believe this and the coaches believe this too as well as the dees coaches after winning our best and fairest. He may not be able to go forward but he is comfortably the best midfielder in this list of names.
I think you are talking about their absolute best games where yes I’d say Petracca is better but Oliver plays well virtually every week so he is still going to have losses when he plays well. Petracca played well in all their losses this season too and the season before they missed finals even with Pertracca having probably a better season. I don’t know how that’s really a knock on him.I've seen him get 40 possessions in losing games , if Petracca plays well you usually win.
Fyfe won a Brownlow while Fremantle were a bottom half team, nothing to do with the team’s performance, Fyfe’s past 2 years have been well below his best.I’d remove Petracca from the list and put Fyfe in there. Guy is a superstar who plays in a team which is improving, but, they are still a lower half performing team which means he doesn’t gain the attention he once did when they were winning a lot more.
One plays 70% mid and the other is a full time forward.Greene has someone sit on him every minute of every game. Also Petracca kicked 29 and played 7 more games then Greene. On averages if Greene had played the same amount of games he would’ve kicked ~63.
You keep saying this but it's a silly comment.Respect your opinion but Oliver is better than Petracca.
One plays 70% mid and the other is a full time forward.
One plays every game and the other has terrible discipline that costs his team
I'm highlighting ''value'' to a team.Yeh so why were you trying to manipulate stats then?
Greene kicks twice as many goals so trying to draw a comparison is a little silly by you.
I mean Petracca for instance has kicked more then 2 goals in a game only twice in two years. He does a brilliant job at hitting the scoreboard but his not tearing teams apart from it. He is a forward of centre mid that rests forward who for instance has about 400% less rebound 50’s then Oliver so you would somewhat expect him to hit the scoreboard.
Is that right? The 40 odd goals bit? A bit surprised by that. In a team that has made finals generally from about 2016. I guess he has been a bit suspension impacted thoughI'm highlighting ''value'' to a team.
One, a permanent forward, has never kicked more than 40 odd goals in his career, and the other, a midfielder, kicks almost 30 goals (29) from the midfield, while also leading the competition in ''score involvements''.
Greene is a great player, but the most valuable players in the league are the contested bulls in the midfield who kick goals.
True to form, you're about the only person capable of disagreeing with that.
Mate it won’t be as dusty has only been great while Richmond have been winning haven’t seen him do it when they missed finals witch they could do. Definitely a great finals record.If it's only for a year it has to be Dustin Martin as he is probably the greatest finals player in history.
The most he's kicked in a season is 45 goals. Twice.Is that right? The 40 odd goals bit? A bit surprised by that. In a team that has made finals generally from about 2016. I guess he has been a bit suspension impacted though
Wow. And Pickett just kicked 40 in his second year.The most he's kicked in a season is 45 goals. Twice.
Coming off a very serious injury.If it's only for a year it has to be Dustin Martin as he is probably the greatest finals player in history.
It’s because he never plays enough games as a forward because he gets suspended or injured and also played midfield earlier on in his career. In those two years he played 18 and 19 games compared to say 25 prom Pickett.Wow. And Pickett just kicked 40 in his second year.
I wouldn’t have picked this at all
He's had plenty of time to recover and the rest of his body has had a good rest.Coming off a very serious injury.
Yeah I figured. Didn’t have stats to hand on injury and suspension.It’s because he never plays enough games as a forward because he gets suspended or injured and also played midfield earlier on in his career. In those two years he played 18 and 19 games compared to say 25 prom Pickett.
I think because he was suspended so early in the season he stopped being discussed as a Brownlow chance.If Touk Miller starts off with any sort of improvement on last year he’s going to be in the conversation very soon. Flew under the radar massively last season.
Well yes if you don’t take averages into consideration. He also averaged .04 more score involvements then Greene this season while Greene had the equivalent of a tagger on him every week.I'm highlighting ''value'' to a team.
One, a permanent forward, has never kicked more than 40 odd goals in his career, and the other, a midfielder, kicks almost 30 goals (29) from the midfield, while also leading the competition in ''score involvements''.
Greene is a great player, but the most valuable players in the league are the contested bulls in the midfield who kick goals.
True to form, you're about the only person capable of disagreeing with that.
Midfield stars to never kick ''more'' than 29 goals in a season.Well yes if you don’t take averages into consideration. He also averaged .04 more score involvements then Greene this season while Greene had the equivalent of a tagger on him every week.
I agree those inside, forward of centre of mids like Dusty, Petracca and Bont play the most important role in the game but they also should be hitting the scoreboard because they aren’t getting back and helping the backline like Oliver for example. I just think if you only kick more then two goals twice in two years you’re not really causing headaches with your goal kicking you are just fulfilling the role you should probably do.
For me it’s splitting hairs at the top atm. For me Dusty’s best is the best and Oliver’s the best over the course of the season.
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Fyfe won a Brownlow while Fremantle were a bottom half team, nothing to do with the team’s performance, Fyfe’s past 2 years have been well below his best.
Respect your opinion but Oliver is better than Petracca. most dees fans believe this and the coaches believe this too as well as the dees coaches after winning our best and fairest. He may not be able to go forward but he is comfortably the best midfielder in this list of names.