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Many of these 13-17 year olds are told to go to QAFL clubs by 'Talent' people and Academy Staff as their only path to AFL Footy
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So a junior comes over at 13 plays 4 or 5 years with a club. Then gets told not good enough to play QAFL seniors or reserves and gets told to go away? He gets lost to the game. Never mind the fact his best mates are likely to be playing at that club.
Or the club can cater for him to stay in the Colours by offering a run on a Friday night. Your confusing 2 different arguments.
Friday night footy is possibly perfect for QAFL clubs to introduce a 3rd senior team and keep players at their club that have come through, or don’t have the physical capability of playing QAFL. As long as they’re not drawing senior players from Div 1 or 2 clubs to fill their Friday night quota I don’t see an issue.
If they were pushing into Div 1 or 2 footy then there is an issue.
Most of the teams that have put In For Friday night footy this year have done so off the back of an excess amount of numbers they have at their club. Labrador, Aspley, Vic Point, Alex Hills, Kedron and Hinterland as I understand it are bulging with numbers. They’ve every right to keep those registrations in their coffers.
Seems the clubs that are most vocally opposed are those with weak infrastructure that can’t offer a product appealing enough to compete. Not just about money
No I think you are missing the point - QAFL clubs by nature are more attractive destination clubs for many young juniors who are spun a whole lot of rubbish about what is required to play at the top level. Think we all recognise this. So the problem is actually occurring 5-6 years before the situation comes to a head. Its too late then. I agree, you can't tell a kid to leave the club bc he can't play reserve grade footy but you can provide an alternative which is an affiliated club. If we want to grow the game then this is what is required. Not a case of keeping all the power and influence among a select handful. Don't worry i'm at a QAFL club and we have 3rds and I'm not all for it. There is a div 4 club on our doorstep that i wish we did more for - they are never going to be a threat but probably a good "friend" if the relationship is established well.
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I do agree there needs to be an affiliation something I mentioned to some friends of mine once before. But how it works is problematic. Some non QAFL clubs sit back and complain that they’re get picked apart but don’t actually get of their arses and come up with a solution.
But to say straight up a QAFL club shouldn’t have a Friday night team is completely incorrect. They’re the perfect source for a Friday night team. Div 1 and 2 clubs is a slightly different scenario as most of the footy at this level can be casual at best.
If we leave Friday nights purely to stand alone we won’t end up with many Friday night teams left as they’ll have too many players and be forced into Saturday footy. Or the numbers of players playing will fall away. It’s my opinion that everyone should have the opportunity to play, no matter your level. If your club can provide that environment the kudos to you.
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And it will be interesting to see if some of those clubs get the numbers for Friday night footy. Just bc you put it out there doesn't mean it will happen. And I'm not sure the extra work attached to an extra team on a different day has always been taken into account - can be pretty draining on human resources.
Our club applied for a 4ths team this year - got (rightly) knocked back. So where does it end I suppose is the question? Bc the arguement atm seems to be if you have the numbers you are entitled to as many sides as you like.
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An interesting point if your talking about Maroochydore.
Would have thought if they could get a Div3 and a Div 4 team together then could steer those into Saturday Div 2 footy. Less strain on resources as both team would be playing at the same venue. Would that affect Hinterland? What’s the rules around having 4 Saturday teams in 2 different comps? What obligation do the Roos have to North Shore and Hinterland?
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At the moment any club can have Saturday teams and one Friday nite side.
Fair enough see above reasons in other posts.
If clubs want relationships with other clubs go out and make it happen.
See Thomos post on how it's done.
If players want to stay at the club they play at then so be it. They have the right to choose where they play considering they are paying for it.
All the whinging is pointless.
You either change the rules or change your ways.
Create a club where kids boys girls men and women want to be. Bet that will go a long way to helping the problem.
Fair enough see above reasons in other posts.
If clubs want relationships with other clubs go out and make it happen.
See Thomos post on how it's done.
If players want to stay at the club they play at then so be it. They have the right to choose where they play considering they are paying for it.
All the whinging is pointless.
You either change the rules or change your ways.
Create a club where kids boys girls men and women want to be. Bet that will go a long way to helping the problem.
They have no obligation except a philosophical one imo. The footy club doesn't need a Div 2 side. We should be striving to be the best QAFL club we can be imo. And at the same time growing the strength of the smaller clubs, particularly Nth Shore and to a lesser extent Caloundra and Hinterland. Nth Shore imo is the ideal club to have as a feeder club for helping out with players when needed.
Div 2 footy fixture and QAFL fixtures + womens footy fixture will never marry up tbh.
Well come on Longy, we lost by 25 goals. Combined had about 50 touches and 15 were mine and i kicked the only goal with a beauty from outside 50 on the run, and i rockeds up at quarter time. Touched the footy more in that game than i did all year on fridays!
Certainly not our 3rds.
Ave age would be 33+
We won the flag this year with 13 guys over 35 on our 22.
We have enough for a 4ths, but as i said in earlier post - the young guys are pushed out to multiple nearby clubs.
Can't those extras go to northshore to get them into div 2 footy?
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That was a nice goal. I ran a long way to high five you.
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I don't think thats quite accurate. There are certain individuals involved in academies (cough Wearne and Hubble) who will direct kids to a certain QAFL club. In fact, even if they are already at another QAFL club they will still do it.
There are plenty of kids who remain in their 'local' club up until about the age of 16, which id probably about right.
the most appropriate place for that kid to play would be where they played from the age of 6 to 12. However, do understand its not that simple.
if his best mates are at the QAFL club and are any good, they won't be playing together anyway, and if they're not - they can pickup and go to their original home club together.
Putting all that aside, apart from some very limited exceptions - I don't think any of the 'big' clubs are actively recruiting kids that are 12 years old. What actually happens is that kids show a bit of talent, they might play against one of the so called big clubs faily regularly in junior/youth footy, and the parents see the facilities, the coaching, the resources etc and think 'this might be a better place for my child to develop as a footballer' and then if the kid agrees, they just naturally move across.
In some cases they may well be correct, they will get better resources and coaching, but thats not always the case. They might go from being a star at their local club who gets their hands on the footy all the time, learns the game inside out, is well coached to a new 'big' club where they are a 2nd tier player, sits on the pine or in the back pocket and barely gets the footy and doesn't develop at all.
Parents have to make their own informed choices, there will never be able to be a rule that stops this, nor will there be one that stops them from making a bad choice.
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It's not just that they don't get off their arses to come up with a solution. Some of them (not all) actively do everything they can to discourage talented kids (the ones 16+) from moving on to further their footy. Kids are rarely poached, they just usually move to the nearest QAFL club.
The ones that drive past 3 QAFL clubs to get to another one, its almost like a signature move that they were poached! (or their local one annoyed them somehow)
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Think you might be on the money here.
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One down and at least one to go
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A few suspects out there with no player announcements/senior training details on social media - do tell?
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I think its coming too.
Friday nite getting bigger.
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Friday night neighbours to blame potentially in this space
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Probably a few more reasons than just that.
But only they know.
Certainly doesn't help.
Hope the other one gets up. They have always battled on.
But at this stage no bye now.
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spare us the mystery and just tell us who is out!
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What would be the fun in that.
Pine rivers back to Friday night