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I’ve seen enough and this debate is settled. Pies miles ahead
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Who has the better youth, Hawthorn or Collingwood?
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I’ve seen enough and this debate is settled. Pies miles ahead
Yep, I've been wrong all summer. We're spooners.
I might have to change my vote. 
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We should take our senior players off shortly.
From memory, the coaches had said during the week that the last 3 quarters were going to be mainly the new kids/VFL players.
Kreuger is hard at it. Maybe a young key forward to work with....
From memory, the coaches had said during the week that the last 3 quarters were going to be mainly the new kids/VFL players.
Kreuger is hard at it. Maybe a young key forward to work with....
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Well that settles things...
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We were missing our 2 best in Day and Jiath. Plus our senior players looked terrible
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Full credit to the boys we'll bank the 2 points and move on to the next game.
They are not in your best half dozen
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Talking about youth. They would be our best 2 currently.
It wasn't pretty but I'm more concerned about our older players than the young players after that game
That game didnt really answer any questions about youth.
Pies were a class above early, but it wasnt "youth" driven...Pie fans would be happy with off-season pickups in Lipinski and Kreuger, both looked good.
When we played the kids on their own after Q3 they were outplayed...but that is almost to be expected.
Pies were a class above early, but it wasnt "youth" driven...Pie fans would be happy with off-season pickups in Lipinski and Kreuger, both looked good.
When we played the kids on their own after Q3 they were outplayed...but that is almost to be expected.
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It answered 0 questions on both fronts, not sure how many you had out by our "A team" wasn't really our A team, there was like 5/6 outs for us (again not sure on you) we had Dimma playing more with the VFL kids unsure why but he'd be our best small defender.
And our structure as a whole defensive unit wasn't what i'd expect to see R1 or next week (more serious.)
Was abit of a see which players played well.
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Stop.
We played like s**t early and Pies didn't. There's no need to dress it up like we were short of our best players.
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Gutted with what I saw this afternoon .
Have just sent an extremely harshly worded email to the club withdrawing my membership and questioning the new coach and 'young' players we have recruited .
Have just sent an extremely harshly worded email to the club withdrawing my membership and questioning the new coach and 'young' players we have recruited .
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Main issue for us is that we cannot kick.
Infront of goals horrid, defensive pressure horrid, patchy efforts horrid and horrid defensive structure in defending on fast rebound.
Too busy front running.
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Reason i mentioned outs was purely because the game doesn't matter, Pies likely had outs, we did too, gameplan and structure atleast behind the ball wasn't good, the effort wasn't there and the finishing def wasn't. Run in the legs intra game it felt like.
Most teams will always be missing some players.
Pies clearly treated it as two distinct 3 period games.
First three was our strong side, and plenty to like as we got out to an 80 point lead...and as mentioned great signs from Lip, Kreuger, N.Daicos.
Last three we had just kids, and they were found wanting.
Hawks (without knowing detail or best 22 intimately) seemed to sprinkle more senior players around.
Hard to judge Pie youth when not surrounded by any senior leaders, as was the case this evening.
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We treated it like a training drill. It ******* felt like it.
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you really think Mitchell went out there for it to be a 'training drill' only?
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No Vinnie, don't think it was his end goal or aim.
It felt like it, purely due to lack of effort. Felt like under 14s all over again where we'd have a muck around intra game.
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Yep, certainly looked like an intra club training run, where the first choice team was put up against the kids/depth to test cohesion.
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Interesting game. Our senior players waaaay off it. Your seasoned campaigners were all very good - Grundy, Elliot, Maynard etc.
I didn't know much about the pies but I think you have done very well with the Lipinski trade on face value. He was very good.
Vinnie B - I didn't mind your man ruscoe in the back end in the second half. Seems to have a bit of dash.
Hawks outplayed when it counted and tried to force the new game plan a bit too zealously - but hey it's a pravdy. Didn't like our intensity around the ball and Collingwood out hunted us and were far more physical.
Daicos did some nice things as expected and Ward ran hard, as expected.
I didn't know much about the pies but I think you have done very well with the Lipinski trade on face value. He was very good.
Vinnie B - I didn't mind your man ruscoe in the back end in the second half. Seems to have a bit of dash.
Hawks outplayed when it counted and tried to force the new game plan a bit too zealously - but hey it's a pravdy. Didn't like our intensity around the ball and Collingwood out hunted us and were far more physical.
Daicos did some nice things as expected and Ward ran hard, as expected.
