Recommitted Jayden Short signed 5 year deal

[Elmer_Judd]

Have you just, like, never watched Short before or what? That is the exact role he plays. And he does it better than Saad.

No he doesn't.

I don't care either way, Port are a rabble and Carlton are top 5 bound. Not one Carlton supporter would swap Saad for Short as I said, anyhow, he ain’t going to join your joke of a football club at any rate, so discussion is rather academic/going around in circles.

You are seriously underestimating Saad and his ability at any rate.

 

[Northernsoul74]

No he doesn't.

I don't care either way, Port are a rabble and Carlton are top 5 bound. Not one Carlton supporter would swap Saad for Short as I said, anyhow, he ain’t going to join your joke of a football club at any rate, so discussion is rather academic/going around in circles.

You are seriously underestimating Saad and his ability at any rate.

The point is there’s little difference between them and yet you were clearly trolling with your suggestion of Shorts worth compared to what Carlton paid for Saad. Personally i think Short is better.

 

[Schulzenfest]

No he doesn't.

I don't care either way, Port are a rabble and Carlton are top 5 bound. Not one Carlton supporter would swap Saad for Short as I said, anyhow, he ain’t going to join your joke of a football club at any rate, so discussion is rather academic/going around in circles.

You are seriously underestimating Saad and his ability at any rate.

Not sure what Port have to do with anything being discussed, but enjoy being above us on the ladder for the first time in ten years I guess?

If not one Carlton supporter would swap Saad for Short, all that demonstrates is that Carlton supporters don't know much about football.

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

Worth a pick in the teens. Saad has him for pace but Short’s disposal is better.

 

[tiger_tough]

Not a convincing argument.

Saad is in AA contention form this season, Short isn't.

Have to admit I have probably undersold Short's worth, but the way you are carrying on about him makes him sound like a top 50 player in the comp, which with all due respect he isn't.

If you are keen to get to Port fine, just speaking now as a Carlton fan, he doesn't really feel a need for us.

99 % chance staying at Richmond anyway

Wut?

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Not sure what Port have to do with anything being discussed, but enjoy being above us on the ladder for the first time in ten years I guess?

If not one Carlton supporter would swap Saad for Short, all that demonstrates is that Carlton supporters don't know much about football.

Meh, it's a stupid and pointless hypothetical anyway (swap between Saad and Short)

I wouldn't give up a top 10 pick for Short on exposed form, and yes Carlton played overs for Saad.

Just my opinion, you were the one who brought Saad into this discussion for some silly reason

 

[Jedi Tiger]

 

[Foxman98]

Way too long for him

 

[tiger_tough]

5 years is a bit much for me but good to have him sign on. Could be a steal if he transitions into a gun mid.

 

[Foxman98]

5 years is a bit much for me but good to have him sign on.

5 years is what you give to superstars 3 years with a club 4th would've been plenty

 

[tiger_tough]

5 years is what you give to superstars 3 years with a club 4th would've been plenty

Yeah I agree. I edited my post before you quoted it. He's playing better than he did in his best and fairest year in my opinion and was brilliant in his first game in the midfield last week so if he can carry on with that it'd be a bonus. Still would've preferred 3 or 4 years.

 

[Foxman98]

Yeah I agree. I edited my post before you quoted it. He's playing better than he did in his best and fairest year in my opinion and was brilliant in his first game in the midfield last week so if he can carry on with that it'd be a bonus. Still would've preferred 3 or 4 years.

Agreed he has been in good form and had a great game last week but would like to see him to it consistently against decent teams now too

 

[bc27]

Extra year was what stalled the signing and Richmond most likely will have heavily loaded that 4th/5th with incentives.

Great to see commitment to the club and it’s obvious the Richmond football club is in a great position going forward unlike a few other clubs.

 

[Marcel Proust]

Way too long for him

A dozen players +29 on the list.

Need have someone locked in for later(?)

 

[Foxman98]

A dozen players +29 on the list.

Need have someone locked in for later(?)

3 years with easy targets to trigger a 4th would've been much better. He is a half back flanker at the moment. If he can consistently improve in the midfield it won't be too bad but I have my doubts about him long term on ball

 

[Elmer_Judd]

Reckon some club must have come with a massive offer which forced Richmond's hand for the 5 year deal

Clearly I did undervalue him, happy to admit, just curious as to know which club(s) were sniffing around

 

[Jeremias]

Very good footballer. 5 years probably a year or two longer than expected, but no doubt that's been caused by interest from elsewhere.

Nothing unusual there I wouldn't have thought.

 

[juss]

5 years is okay. Perhaps one longer than you'd ideally like, but not terrible. He's only 26, been very consistent, won a best and fairest in a premiership year, is pretty durable physically, and seems to be playing some of his career best football at the moment.

He's only played one game there, but he was close to BOG and if he can add a part time midfield string to his bow, that's another positive.

Really, what more could he do to ask for a long deal at the club?

Initially I thought if we were going down a full rebuild path, he might have been one to shop around with some trade currency / FA compo, but it seems the club has different plans for the list build.

 

[Rich01]

I thought ideally it was one year too long given his age but that’s what you do for good footballers. He will be 31 in his last year of that contract.

But that’s the same as Saad in the final year of his deal, and I think the way these guys play they are less likely to lose form dramatically at 30 than others.

What a great rookie pick this was. Glad he’s a Tiger for life.

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

best and fairest winner could possibly win his second this year reliable injury wise and a good player no issue with it

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

If there were an AA squad right now Short would be on that list…and with all respect Short is comfortably a top 50 player in the AFL right now.
He is also a far way ahead of Saad as a player in nearly every statistical category this season.

Largely because he has taken kick ins. The reason I rate Saad more highly is that he gets as much ball in general play and also intercepts. Shorts been pretty much a pure receiver.
A top 50 player is on average top three at each club. No way would he be comfortably in it. He would be in a group from 40-100 where people could make a case for any of them.

Anyway you would be dreaming to expect him to take less then 5 years, good job by Richmond

 

[Party Gull]

 

[petrolium]

Highly underrated player by many. Agree that 5 years is a risk, but it goes to show the impact that free agency has to the length of player contracts. It is almost an expectation now that established players entering free agency are offered long contracts (4-6+years) as there is a real risk that they’ll get that elsewhere. It wasn’t long ago that only superstar players were offered more than 3 year deals.

 

[Wild Bill]

No he doesn't.

I don't care either way, Port are a rabble and Carlton are top 5 bound. Not one Carlton supporter would swap Saad for Short as I said, anyhow, he ain’t going to join your joke of a football club at any rate, so discussion is rather academic/going around in circles.

You are seriously underestimating Saad and his ability at any rate.

I don’t think there is much between Saad and Short. But careful with calling Port a rabble. I wouldn’t be shocked if they finish above the Blues.

 

[Rich01]

Largely because he has taken kick ins.

Short doesn’t take many kick ins. What’s the discrepancy compared to Saad you mention?