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Can't wait until both accounts show 'Suspended' under their names tbh
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Can't wait until both accounts show 'Suspended' under their names tbh
A MickG88 and danster showdown, what a time to be alive!
Depends if Melbourne score more or less than 57 points I guess.If Fremantle beat Melbourne in rd.11, would that mean Fremantle have the better defense overall or just for that game?
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Not sure, it will mean travel agents south of the Swan will be busy though.If Fremantle beat Melbourne in rd.11, would that mean Fremantle have the better defense overall or just for that game?
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yeah I sort of missed your initial point but I do agree that stats can be made to manipulate anything. Yeah, you can plug holes for a little bit but when your players miss half the season (4 of 8 weeks) you can't really go that long without suffering the consequences. Like Joel Smith for Lever, Jayden Hunt for Salem etc. like it just eats away slowly.We beat GWS in Canberra with Marshall and Hayes going down in the 2nd quarter. We beat a team that has a better midfield than ours without a ruckman because the system that we put in place worked.
You're missing what I am saying. Posters have made the argument that Docker have a better defensive unit than Saints because they don't have as many points kicked on them, The same can be said about Demons. So if you think Docker have a better back 6 than the Saints then the same can be said about Dockers having a better back 6 than the Demons. This is not my opinion, it's an opinion that is wrong and can be MANIPULATED to make a point (which is what I am doing).
It should also be pointed out that we beat Docker round 23 without Max King where Sharman kicked 4 goals. Steele has had a subpar year and probably isn't our best midfield player and Marshall isn't our best ruckman (Ryder is.).
Melbourne are blessed because of Steven May, he is the best defender in the comp at the moment. He was playing on King for most of the game and when King kicked his two goals in the third you could see it was against Petty both times. Goodwin swung May back on King to stop him from getting on a roll. The guys so versatile it's not funny. Brayshaw has really taken over the Salem role and done just as good a job as Salem would of being doing. For me those are the two that really stop Saints from getting more scoring shots (plus Langdon on the wing.)yeah I sort of missed your initial point but I do agree that stats can be made to manipulate anything. Yeah, you can plug holes for a little bit but when your players miss half the season (4 of 8 weeks) you can't really go that long without suffering the consequences. Like Joel Smith for Lever, Jayden Hunt for Salem etc. like it just eats away slowly.
Ryder is a really good tap ruckmen where as Marshall isn't, Marshall is a very good ruckman who can get his own clearances. To me I would say Marshall is a better Ruck/forward than a solo ruck but we have a young guy named Max Heath how is going to be a pretty damn good ruck.I rate Marshall higher than Ryder. I think Ryder stalls Marshalls development in that Marshall always plays so much better as a solo ruck. The Max king, Marshall, and Steele example was really just used as an example of losing 3 good players. To lose 3 good players in one line is a whole different issue. I guess its like losing 'King, Membrey and Higgins' and question why you're not kicking goals. I think Melbourne have done very well so far to cover the losses.
Question: In the first half, How many of your goals were score from stoppages compared to marks? and think about how many times the ball came into the Demons forward line.But out of interest, what is it about the saints that you rate their defence so highly? I rate the saints forward line: King, Higgins, Gresham, Membrey, Butler. These are the guys that worry me. Not so much the personnel in defence.
They will......This weekend.Hey Melbourne, could you think about losing a game or something. That would be cool, I think
They will......This weekend.
Score against / defence isn't just about the defenders, it's about the midfield battle and how much ball is coming in and under what pressure. You could have the best back six in the league but if you have the worst midfield you might get belted. I wouldn't be using a game against WC as any sort of measure and you only beat Collingwood by 5 goals with some very accurate kicking. Jury still out on Richmond.We are interesting, we have the second most points scored this season so our attack is elite. Only behind the lions. If we can fix up our defence which looks likely now because our players are pretty much fully fit from this round onward (unless we get more injuries) I think we can challenge.
Whoever wins, we lose.
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Id heavily agree with this. I'd say that purely on the back 6 Brisbane's defence is right up there. Andrews Adams Rich Starc are all very good. But when teams get a run over us it falls apart from a lack of defensive pressure and running from the forwards and midfields. Brisbane's 18 man defence is not at the level of the best couple of teamsScore against / defence isn't just about the defenders, it's about the midfield battle and how much ball is coming in and under what pressure. You could have the best back six in the league but if you have the worst midfield you might get belted. I wouldn't be using a game against WC as any sort of measure and you only beating Collingwood by 5 goals with some very accurate kicking. Jury still out on Richmond.
Score against / defence isn't just about the defenders, it's about the midfield battle and how much ball is coming in and under what pressure. You could have the best back six in the league but if you have the worst midfield you might get belted. I wouldn't be using a game against WC as any sort of measure and you only beat Collingwood by 5 goals with some very accurate kicking. Jury still out on Richmond.
Reminds me of the time where I sat in a room with my parents during the middle of their divorce arguing over custody of me and my brother - strange to watch people argue about you and to not to be asked your opinion.
A MickG88 and danster showdown, what a time to be alive!
Didn't know it was April Fools DayWe are interesting, we have the second most points scored this season so our attack is elite. Only behind the lions. If we can fix up our defence which looks likely now because our players are pretty much fully fit from this round onward (unless we get more injuries) I think we can challenge.
Exactly! Clearly the best team in it right now. By a bit of a way too. But one bad game, a couple of unexpected injuries, come up against a team who play out of their skin. Anything is still possible. No guarantees we win anything this year, but you can't argue the Dees are clearly #1..Everyone thought Richmond was unbeatable in 2018. All it takes is one bad Prelim to mess everything up. I think the only team that can beat Melbourne is themselves, Richmond style in a Prelim. Just one bad game when the other team plays the game of their lives, and it's done.
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I would be shocked if Richmond made it past the semis. They'll make finals on the back of a cupcake draw and may get a shock win in week 1 but can't see them challenging the top teams.We are interesting, we have the second most points scored this season so our attack is elite. Only behind the lions. If we can fix up our defence which looks likely now because our players are pretty much fully fit from this round onward (unless we get more injuries) I think we can challenge.
I would be shocked if Richmond made it past the semis. They'll make finals on the back of a cupcake draw and may get a shock win in week 1 but can't see them challenging the top teams.
Playing against that midfield in a Preliminary Final would be a dream.
which is your current midfield but with DustyYour thinking of our dustyless injury ridden midfield we’ve had for the past year.
which is your current midfield but with Dusty