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[Dog 36]

Because I’m lazy right now could someone tell me what’s our win/loss record with Sweet playing ?

 

[Oliver G]

Full stats breakdown…

Expected Score / Actual Score (Expected Accuracy / Actual Accuracy)
WB: 103 / 99 (47% / 45%)
CW: 57 / 51 (48% / 41%)

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: 46 / 48

Centre Bounce Attendance
20 - Sweet
16 - Liberatore, Macrae
14 - Bontempellie
12 - Treloar
11 - B. Smith
6 - Dunkley
5 - Cordy

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
63 - Sweet (26 / 10)
19 - Cordy (9 / 4)
3 - Naughton (0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 14
CW: 10

First Possessions
WB: 46

CW: 28

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 43 / 36
CW: 27 / 21

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 64%
CW: 60%

Spoil Efficiency
WB: 81%
CW: 61%

Smothers
WB: 3

CW: 9

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 64%
CW: 60%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 78%
CW: 66%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 6
CW: 3

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 2
CW: 6

Score Launches
4 - Dale, Liberatore, Treloar
3 - Macrae, Sweet
2 - Daniel, Scott, B. Smith
1 - Bontempelli, Cordy, Dunkley, Richards, Williams

Shots At Goal
WB: 31 (41% - Expected Accuracy: 47%)
CW: 17 (45% - Expected Accuracy: 48%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Collingwood)
Set Shot: 9.4 / 3.5
Snap: 3.2 / 2.1
On Run: 2.3 / 1.1
Mark Play On: 0.1 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.1 / 1.0

0M-15M: 2.2 / 1.0
15M-30M: 7.3 / 2.4
31M-40M: 3.3 / 2.0
41M-50M: 2.3 / 2.2
51M+: 0.0 / 0.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 2.0 / 1.0
Scores In Time-On: 5.5 / 1.3

Targets Inside 50

22 - No target
7 - Bontempelli, Cordy
6 - Naughton
5 - Khamis
2 - Sweet
1 - Dunkley, McNeil, Scott, B. Smith, Treloar

Kick In / Kick In Play On
6 / 6 - Dale
3 / 3 - Daniel

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 24
CW: 29

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 6

CW: 7

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 18
CW: 24

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 48

CW: 40

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 15
CW: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Liberatore, McComb
1 - Bontempelli, Cleary, Cordy, Daniel, Duryea, Khamis, McNeil, Naughton, Richards, B. Smith, Sweet

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 1

CW: 3

No Pressure Errors
WB: 4

CW: 7

Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Richards
1 - Bontempelli, Gardner, McNeil

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
149 - Treloar
144 - B. Smith
128 - Liberatore
125 - Bontempelli
118 - Dunkley
117 - Macrae
113 - Dale
111 - Daniel
104 - Naughton
98 - Sweet
94 - Richards
82 - Scott
73 - West
72 - Cordy
66 - Khamis
61 - Cleary
60 - Gardner
58 - Keath
42 - Williams
41 - McComb
37 - Duryea
34 - McNeil
DNP - R. Smith

AFL Player Rating Points
20.5 - Treloar
19.7 - Liberatore
15.7 - Dunkley
15.7 - Dale
14.4 - B. Smith
14.4 - Cordy
14.1 - Daniel
13.3 - Bontempelli
12.3 - Macrae
12.3 - Scott
11.4 - Richards
11.0 - Naughton
9.9 - Keath
9.2 - Gardner
9.1 - West
7.1 - Sweet
6.8 - Khamis
5.1 - Cleary
4.6 - McComb
2.2 - Duryea
1.9 - McNeil
0.4 - Williams
DNP - R. Smith

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 59%
CW: 41%

Q2
WB: 51%
CW: 49%

Q3
WB: 49%
CW: 51%

Q4
WB: 69%
CW: 31%

Match
WB: 57%
CW: 43%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 185 (Average)
CW: 179 (Below Average)

Q2
WB: 163 (Poor)
CW: 177 (Below Average)

Q3
WB: 218 (Elite)
CW: 190 (Above Average)

Q4
WB: 196 (Above Average)
CW: 174 (Below Average)

Match
WB: 188 (Average)
CW: 179 (Below Average)

Free Kick Summary


Score Sources

 

[Oliver G]

Because I’m lazy right now could someone tell me how what’s our win/loss record with Sweet playing ?

83% (5/1)

 

[Dog 36]

83% (5/1)

Appreciate it OG thanks

IM humble opinion he plays going forward until further notice

 

[Fossie 32]

Full stats breakdown…

Expected Score / Actual Score (Expected Accuracy / Actual Accuracy)
WB: 103 / 99 (47% / 45%)
CW: 57 / 51 (48% / 41%)

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: 46 / 48

Centre Bounce Attendance
20 - Sweet
16 - Liberatore, Macrae
14 - Bontempellie
12 - Treloar
11 - B. Smith
6 - Dunkley
5 - Cordy

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
63 - Sweet (26 / 10)
19 - Cordy (9 / 4)
3 - Naughton (0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 14
CW: 10

First Possessions
WB: 46

CW: 28

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 43 / 36
CW: 27 / 21

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 64%
CW: 60%

Spoil Efficiency
WB: 81%
CW: 61%

Smothers
WB: 3

CW: 9

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 64%
CW: 60%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 78%
CW: 66%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 6
CW: 3

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 2
CW: 6

Score Launches
4 - Dale, Liberatore, Treloar
3 - Macrae, Sweet
2 - Daniel, Scott, B. Smith
1 - Bontempelli, Cordy, Dunkley, Richards, Williams

Shots At Goal
WB: 31 (41% - Expected Accuracy: 47%)
CW: 17 (45% - Expected Accuracy: 48%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Collingwood)
Set Shot: 9.4 / 3.5
Snap: 3.2 / 2.1
On Run: 2.3 / 1.1
Mark Play On: 0.1 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.1 / 1.0

0M-15M: 2.2 / 1.0
15M-30M: 7.3 / 2.4
31M-40M: 3.3 / 2.0
41M-50M: 2.3 / 2.2
51M+: 0.0 / 0.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 2.0 / 1.0
Scores In Time-On: 5.5 / 1.3

Targets Inside 50

22 - No target
7 - Bontempelli, Cordy
6 - Naughton
5 - Khamis
2 - Sweet
1 - Dunkley, McNeil, Scott, B. Smith, Treloar

Kick In / Kick In Play On
6 / 6 - Dale
3 / 3 - Daniel

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 24
CW: 29

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 6

CW: 7

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 18
CW: 24

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 48

CW: 40

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 15
CW: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Liberatore, McComb
1 - Bontempelli, Cleary, Cordy, Daniel, Duryea, Khamis, McNeil, Naughton, Richards, B. Smith, Sweet

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 1

CW: 3

No Pressure Errors
WB: 4

CW: 7

Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Richards
1 - Bontempelli, Gardner, McNeil

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
149 - Treloar
144 - B. Smith
128 - Liberatore
125 - Bontempelli
118 - Dunkley
117 - Macrae
113 - Dale
111 - Daniel
104 - Naughton
98 - Sweet
94 - Richards
82 - Scott
73 - West
72 - Cordy
66 - Khamis
61 - Cleary
60 - Gardner
58 - Keath
42 - Williams
41 - McComb
37 - Duryea
34 - McNeil
DNP - R. Smith

AFL Player Rating Points
20.5 - Treloar
19.7 - Liberatore
15.7 - Dunkley
15.7 - Dale
14.4 - B. Smith
14.4 - Cordy
14.1 - Daniel
13.3 - Bontempelli
12.3 - Macrae
12.3 - Scott
11.4 - Richards
11.0 - Naughton
9.9 - Keath
9.2 - Gardner
9.1 - West
7.1 - Sweet
6.8 - Khamis
5.1 - Cleary
4.6 - McComb
2.2 - Duryea
1.9 - McNeil
0.4 - Williams
DNP - R. Smith

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 59%
CW: 41%

Q2
WB: 51%
CW: 49%

Q3
WB: 49%
CW: 51%

Q4
WB: 69%
CW: 31%

Match
WB: 57%
CW: 43%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 185 (Average)
CW: 179 (Below Average)

Q2
WB: 163 (Poor)
CW: 177 (Below Average)

Q3
WB: 218 (Elite)
CW: 190 (Above Average)

Q4
WB: 196 (Above Average)
CW: 174 (Below Average)

Match
WB: 188 (Average)
CW: 179 (Below Average)

Free Kick Summary
View attachment 1399326

Score Sources
View attachment 1399327

What were the Pies stats for

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage) ? pls

 

[dogwatch]

Maybe Sweet‘s best game? Can’t ask much more than that

You sure? McComb played his best ever AFL game last week and he copped heaps.

 

[Testekill]

81% game time is impressive. What about Gardner though with 95% and he came off with an injury for 6 minutes.

Gardner frequently has 98-100% game time. It really does help having a key defender that has a big enough tank that they don't need to come off to rest for a couple of minutes a quarter.

 

[Fossie 32]

You sure? McComb played his best ever AFL game last week and he copped heaps.

 

[Morris Major]

Had we given Lippa more of an opportunity last year, of course he would have stayed. He was a Bulldogs supporter growing up.

Lipiniski played almost the entire first half of the season. Besides, he is completely a different proposition for given his contract, salary and game time expectations.

I'm no fan of McComb, but it's just silly to think it's as simple as Lipinski out McComb in.

 

[dogwatch]

Yep.

So was the one against De Goey. He tried to restrain himself and we still got the 50.

Blight on the game, should only be for abuse of umpires.

Yes, that's exactly how it should be interpreted. The umpires need to be given discretion and allow players to at least air their frustration with themselves.
And in a few months when the dust has settled and nobody's looking they will quietly make that change without having to acknowledge they f'd up.

It means there will always be a degree of interpretation: at what point is the line crossed that deserves a 50? That will mean people will always complain if it goes against their side, just as they do with any free kick, and yes there will always be an occasional howler.

But not the regular travesties like those we saw tonight. I thought there was perhaps a case against Buku but it was always going to be a really soft 50 that does a disservice to our game. The call against de Goey was even worse IMO.

 

[Martyn_30_]

5 and 1 with Sweet now, everytime the midfield gets a ruckman that can half the contest they dominate but they play most games with an arm tied behind their back.

Khamis is going to be a lot more than a trial forward, seeing his leap and leading patterns live he'll be very tough match up with a couple of genuine key forwards down there as well.

 

[dogwatch]

Just a personal opinion, I think it’s lame.

Hate it when others (Pies with Toovey, Carlton with Ang Christou back in the day) do it too.

Anyway.

Good win tonight, maybe there’s some life in our season.

Melbourne's Yze too.

 

[Oliver G]

What were the Pies stats for

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage) ? pls

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
58 - Cameron (33 / 9)
22 - Begg (5 /15)
5 - Mihocek (0 / 0)

 

[dogwatch]

If that's all he revealed, nothing to worry about. Any simpleton coach should be watching our game vision back and writing stuff like that down before playing us anyway

And CD would feed them all that stuff too.

 

[doggies ftw]

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
58 - Cameron (33 / 9)
22 - Begg (22 / 5)
5 - Mihocek (0 / 0)

Begg won every single ruck contest he was involved in? Didn’t look like that live. Hitout stats are such a gamble, at least 50% of them in game should go to no one or “no contest” but always get credited one way or another

 

[dogwatch]

Because I’m lazy right now could someone tell me what’s our win/loss record with Sweet playing ?

5-1.

(It took me 10 seconds to find out )

 

[bullish23]

Play Sweet.
Play West.

Buku has really surprised.

 

[Oliver G]

Begg won every single ruck contest he was involved in? Didn’t look like that live. Hitout stats are such a gamble, at least 50% of them in game should go to no one or “no contest” but always get credited one way or another

Yeah sorry that's a typo, Begg's numbers were actually...

22 - Begg (5 / 1)

 

[TiAn_]

Full stats breakdown…

Expected Score / Actual Score (Expected Accuracy / Actual Accuracy)
WB: 103 / 99 (47% / 45%)
CW: 57 / 51 (48% / 41%)

Expected Margin / Actual Margin: 46 / 48

Centre Bounce Attendance
20 - Sweet
16 - Liberatore, Macrae
14 - Bontempellie
12 - Treloar
11 - B. Smith
6 - Dunkley
5 - Cordy

Ruck Contests (Hitouts / To Advantage)
63 - Sweet (26 / 10)
19 - Cordy (9 / 4)
3 - Naughton (0 / 0)

Hitouts To Advantage
WB: 14
CW: 10

First Possessions
WB: 46

CW: 28

Clearances / Effective Clearances
WB: 43 / 36
CW: 27 / 21

Tackle Efficiency
WB: 64%
CW: 60%

Spoil Efficiency
WB: 81%
CW: 61%

Smothers
WB: 3

CW: 9

Forward Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 64%
CW: 60%

Defensive Half Kicking Efficiency
WB: 78%
CW: 66%

Forward Half Contested Marks
WB: 6
CW: 3

Defensive Half Contested Marks
WB: 2
CW: 6

Score Launches
4 - Dale, Liberatore, Treloar
3 - Macrae, Sweet
2 - Daniel, Scott, B. Smith
1 - Bontempelli, Cordy, Dunkley, Richards, Williams

Shots At Goal
WB: 31 (41% - Expected Accuracy: 47%)
CW: 17 (45% - Expected Accuracy: 48%)

Scoring Profile (Western Bulldogs / Collingwood)
Set Shot: 9.4 / 3.5
Snap: 3.2 / 2.1
On Run: 2.3 / 1.1
Mark Play On: 0.1 / 0.0
Ground Kick: 0.1 / 1.0

0M-15M: 2.2 / 1.0
15M-30M: 7.3 / 2.4
31M-40M: 3.3 / 2.0
41M-50M: 2.3 / 2.2
51M+: 0.0 / 0.1

Scores Directly From FK/50MP: 2.0 / 1.0
Scores In Time-On: 5.5 / 1.3

Targets Inside 50

22 - No target
7 - Bontempelli, Cordy
6 - Naughton
5 - Khamis
2 - Sweet
1 - Dunkley, McNeil, Scott, B. Smith, Treloar

Kick In / Kick In Play On
6 / 6 - Dale
3 / 3 - Daniel

Defensive 50 Marks
WB: 24
CW: 29

Defensive 50 Intercept Marks
WB: 6

CW: 7

Defensive Half Turnovers
WB: 18
CW: 24

Forward Half Turnovers
WB: 48

CW: 40

Unforced Turnovers
WB: 15
CW: 15

Unforced Turnovers By Player
2 - Liberatore, McComb
1 - Bontempelli, Cleary, Cordy, Daniel, Duryea, Khamis, McNeil, Naughton, Richards, B. Smith, Sweet

Dropped Marks (Uncontested Only)
WB: 1

CW: 3

No Pressure Errors
WB: 4

CW: 7

Turnovers/Frees/50M Penalties Punished By Goals
2 - Richards
1 - Bontempelli, Gardner, McNeil

Champion Data Ranking Points (Supercoach)
149 - Treloar
144 - B. Smith
128 - Liberatore
125 - Bontempelli
118 - Dunkley
117 - Macrae
113 - Dale
111 - Daniel
104 - Naughton
98 - Sweet
94 - Richards
82 - Scott
73 - West
72 - Cordy
66 - Khamis
61 - Cleary
60 - Gardner
58 - Keath
42 - Williams
41 - McComb
37 - Duryea
34 - McNeil
DNP - R. Smith

AFL Player Rating Points
20.5 - Treloar
19.7 - Liberatore
15.7 - Dunkley
15.7 - Dale
14.4 - B. Smith
14.4 - Cordy
14.1 - Daniel
13.3 - Bontempelli
12.3 - Macrae
12.3 - Scott
11.4 - Richards
11.0 - Naughton
9.9 - Keath
9.2 - Gardner
9.1 - West
7.1 - Sweet
6.8 - Khamis
5.1 - Cleary
4.6 - McComb
2.2 - Duryea
1.9 - McNeil
0.4 - Williams
DNP - R. Smith

Time In Forward Half
Q1
WB: 59%
CW: 41%

Q2
WB: 51%
CW: 49%

Q3
WB: 49%
CW: 51%

Q4
WB: 69%
CW: 31%

Match
WB: 57%
CW: 43%

Pressure Gauge
Q1
WB: 185 (Average)
CW: 179 (Below Average)

Q2
WB: 163 (Poor)
CW: 177 (Below Average)

Q3
WB: 218 (Elite)
CW: 190 (Above Average)

Q4
WB: 196 (Above Average)
CW: 174 (Below Average)

Match
WB: 188 (Average)
CW: 179 (Below Average)

Free Kick Summary
View attachment 1399326

Score Sources
View attachment 1399327

Cheers for the weekly stats.

How do our No target inside 50 numbers compare to other sides?

 

[adogsfan5]

Looks like Dunks is getting squeezed outta the middle again…

 

[yebiga]

English available next week but what about JJ where is he. The silence is deafening.

It's ringing like a bell - he had 4 unexplained absences last year and is having 12 this year
Naughty man JJ

 

[Oliver G]

Cheers for the weekly stats.

How do our No target inside 50 numbers compare to other sides?

Ranked 10th currently...

Percentage of kicks inside 50 targeting a player
74% - Hawthorn
73% - Essendon
72% - Geelong
69% - Fremantle
66% - Sydney
65% - Brisbane
65% - Port Adelaide
65% - North Melbourne
64% - Richmond
63% - Western Bulldogs
62% - Carlton
62% - St. Kilda
62% - Melbourne
59% - Adelaide
59% - Collingwood
58% - GWS
55% - Gold Coast
54% - West Coast

 

[SPower]

Oh oh oh,
How quiet was Daisy Pearce after 1/2
time.
What a bunch of tossers , Richo excluded.

 

[yebiga]

Nah those changes are outer limits surely

Playing mcNeil, mcComb or Scot ahead of West is not an assessment in the best interests of the team

Playing Old Man Martin ahead of Sweet is not in the best interests of the team. We don't need a winning Ruckman we just need someone who can compete. Sweets performance in Ruck contests was just that and no more but it is light years ahead of Martin and a reasonable margin ahead of English. Wait, English maybe better around the ground but his Ruckwork is ordinary. Give Sweet a dozen continuous games and just see the difference it will make to our midfield.

 

[yebiga]

Sweet was serviceable tonight but Darcy Cameron is in the lower rungs of rucks in the competition if playing as the #1.

Sweet has been found out by Rhys Stanley, Tom Campbell and worse at VFL level so I agree your call on being found out by Witts is more likely than not*. I suspect those rolling their eyes at Bevo after tonight have not watched any VFL where Martin was much much better.

* Obviously we all hope not. In the same way I hope McComb isn’t about to butcher his kick whenever he gets the pill but I predict he will.

For heavens sake Martin is on life support. Sweet is young and desperately needs games. You can hear Martin's hips scrapping in the stands. Martin is still technically a superior Ruckman but his second efforts and physical presence following the initial contest is no longer possible. By the third and last quarters he is done. Martin will not get better but worse - that's age - nothing more.

After last years Grand final it is mindless to persist with Martin - he should be there only as the last resort - this season - when he should be replaced with 2 additional ruckman.