How many indigenous players want to coach after football?
That’s not the point.
They should be made to coach so we all feel better.
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How many indigenous players want to coach after football?
That's hasn't really happened in the NFL though.I think the Rooney rule is a very clever intervention. It does a few things, while still ensuring at each decision that the best candidate is hired.
It makes clubs think carefully about who is out there today who they should give a crack at interviewing. Even if the candidate is not ready today, the process can help the candidate work out what they need to work on and additional experience they need to gain. This helps address the systemic issues that mean Indigenous players have fewer opportunities to coach.
It also means that if clubs don’t want to embarrass themselves interviewing the same candidates over and over, they will put more effort into developing the talent and having more discussions with players who they may have previously assumed we’re not interested (potentially due to unconscious bias).
More importantly, I think the rule just makes people more open minded about who a good candidate could be. Having worked in an organisation that applied a rule, I found it very helpful to think creatively about the best candidate and sometimes landed on a great candidate who I initially wouldn’t have thought of.
Literally anyone. Its a leadership / guidance role. You dont think there is a single former indigenous player who would be willing to work at GWS?
I think the Rooney rule is a very clever intervention. It does a few things, while still ensuring at each decision that the best candidate is hired.
It makes clubs think carefully about who is out there today who they should give a crack at interviewing. Even if the candidate is not ready today, the process can help the candidate work out what they need to work on and additional experience they need to gain. This helps address the systemic issues that mean Indigenous players have fewer opportunities to coach.
It also means that if clubs don’t want to embarrass themselves interviewing the same candidates over and over, they will put more effort into developing the talent and having more discussions with players who they may have previously assumed we’re not interested (potentially due to unconscious bias).
More importantly, I think the rule just makes people more open minded about who a good candidate could be. Having worked in an organisation that applied a rule, I found it very helpful to think creatively about the best candidate and sometimes landed on a great candidate who I initially wouldn’t have thought of.
so you don't know if anyone applied but you think it's an issue .
The whole point behind this thread is about what the AFL can/should do to encourage clubs to have more indigenous people.
Hird is a s**t bloke. I'd be amazed if there isnt a single indigenous person wanting a job at GWS. Do you think it likely that there was no-one other than Hird who could have done his job?
I mean, I guess if he wanted to share his thoughts on how to avoid ******* up.
I have no idea and I have no clue if he is truly a sh1t bloke. He made a massive mistake and he's paid a huge price.
On the issue of a 'rooney rule' who'd want to be the person employed under this rule knowing they are a token?
The afl have a coaching pathway and getting more indigenous people into that program should be the goal. Give them all the tools they need to be successful and hope they can enjoy a long career in coaching.
I want the job. Doesn't mean I'm qualified for it.The whole point behind this thread is about what the AFL can/should do to encourage clubs to have more indigenous people.
Hird is a s**t bloke. I'd be amazed if there isnt a single indigenous person wanting a job at GWS. Do you think it likely that there was no-one other than Hird who could have done his job?
I mean, I guess if he wanted to share his thoughts on how to avoid ******* up.
What was Hird's coaching qualification when he got the senior job?I want the job. Doesn't mean I'm qualified for it.
Eddie Betts has just started out as a development coach at Geelong. The pathways are there for indigenous players (and non-players too) to become coaches if that is what they want.
The reality is that a lot of players struggle with home sickness (and understandably so), and want to return home after playing. Can't really blame them, the city isn't always the nicest place to live...
What was Hird's coaching qualification when he got the senior job?
Besides a Cert IV in "Golden Boy Studies".
Have you read OP? Rooney rule says nothing about having to give anyone a job.the rooney rule was devised by old white guys to protect themselves from law suits. nothing will change in the nfl until more black guys get into the front office and or ownership. the nba is miles ahead.
it doesn't help anyone when jobs are gifted and not earnt.
Absolutely love what Clarke has done at Richmond, met him a few times and he’s an absolute top bloke and great footy brain and done wonders in terms of developing some of our young talent and has a great report with our indigenous playersXavier Clarke at the Tigers would seem to be a good candidate.
Very impressive guy and would love to have him back at the Saints.
Always loved the X-man.
Have you read OP? Rooney rule says nothing about having to give anyone a job.
Agree with you that one simple rule change will not fix a systemic problem - but I think it is a helpful part of the mix.
Given Hird has terrible credentials, at least one job was missed out on.
Who applied and missed out?
Missed out?
Anyone who didnt oversee the largest doping programme in team sport anywhere in the world in history.
Did they advertise the job or did the AFL manufacture the role for their mate to slowly reintroduce him to football?
You’re telling the story. Which is it?