Recommitted Paddy Dow [OOC 2023] explored his options, but stayed

[tiger_tough]

He is contracted for 2023...
If you are so obsessed with him, then trade something we would accept for him...

Being contracted doesn't mean he won't want to leave

If at the end of the year he's still not getting games and asks to leave then blues will get bugger all for him. Clubs don't hold blokes to contracts that they don't rate enough to give games to when the opportunity presents. Dodoro maybe.

 

[Gratees]

Nobody is gonna trade anything significant for Dow, Isn't worth it. He won't go anywhere this year

 

[Morro]

Considering he is contracted for 2023, can't see that happening... Would now have to be beneficial to both clubs...
Considering this thread is 11 pages long... Dow must have some interest from opposition supporters...

Tiger supporters seem pretty keen putting down any trade suggestions that doesn't involve them... Do you guys secretly want him?

Given your coach doesn't rate him, I think the only benefit in these kinds of trades is with the player in mind, not the club holding the contract.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Given your coach doesn't rate him, I think the only benefit in these kinds of trades is with the player in mind, not the club holding the contract.

How does he not rate him? Would he get a game in the Dogs or Dees midfield? We have a really strong midfield whos currently beating up on everybody. Why would he change that mix if he didnt have to due to injury?

 

[Morro]

How does he not rate him? Would he get a game in the Dogs or Dees midfield? We have a really strong midfield whos currently beating up on everybody. Why would he change that mix if he didnt have to due to injury?

But you have had injuries and still cant get a look in.

And yes, I agree, your midfield when all on the park is outstanding, what a long time one off season is hey.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

But you have had injuries and still cant get a look in.

And yes, I agree, your midfield when all on the park is outstanding, what a long time one off season is hey.

We've had injuries to everywhere but our midfield.

 

[Foxman98]

We've had injuries to everywhere but our midfield.

Walsh, Cripps, Cerra, Kennedy and Hewett have all missed games so that's a bit of a porky pie

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I personally don't think Dow would be good enough to get a game with the Dees and their loaded midfield at this stage

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Walsh, Cripps, Cerra, Kennedy and Hewett have all missed games so that's a bit of a porky pie

Yes but never multiple at a time and they are splitting that time as it is. When all have been healthy Walsh has played wing and half forward. When one goes out the other just chews up the leftover share of time on ball.

If there was 2-3 injuries to key midfielders he would be seeing game time. Almost guaranteed. Voss has said as much when asked in his pressers

 

[Foxman98]

Yes but never multiple at a time and they are splitting that time as it is. When all have been healthy Walsh has played wing and half forward. When one goes out the other just chews up the leftover share of time on ball.

If there was 2-3 injuries to key midfielders he would be seeing game time. Almost guaranteed. Voss has said as much when asked in his pressers

LOB, Jack Martin, Carroll types have all missed games too and were preferred over him. The opportunities have been there to pick him Voss just hasn't

 

[Jeremias]

LOB, Jack Martin, Carroll types have all missed games too and were preferred over him. The opportunities have been there to pick him Voss just hasn't

Dow isn't similar to any of these players though. They play completely different roles. You may as well have included Harry McKay in that list.

 

[Morro]

Yes but never multiple at a time and they are splitting that time as it is. When all have been healthy Walsh has played wing and half forward. When one goes out the other just chews up the leftover share of time on ball.

If there was 2-3 injuries to key midfielders he would be seeing game time. Almost guaranteed. Voss has said as much when asked in his pressers

So your best performing mid outside your AFL team is not chosen despite you guys missing mids most weeks?

Yeah mate, I hate to break it to you, Voss doesnt rate him.

 

[Foxman98]

Dow isn't similar to any of these players though. They play completely different roles. You may as well have included Harry McKay in that list.

Look up where i mentioned Cripps, Hewett, Walsh, Cerra, Kennedy all missing then

 

[Jeremias]

Look up where i mentioned Cripps, Hewett, Walsh, Cerra, Kennedy all missing then

I saw it, and I saw the response to that which was spot on.

Each of the above are currently stronger AFL midfielders than Dow. There's no shame in that and it says more of their quality than Dow's perceived lack thereof.

If one is missing, we've shifted the magnets within that core group to cover, and have done so effectively. If two are missing at any one time, Dow would certainly come into consideration.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

So your best performing mid outside your AFL team is not chosen despite you guys missing mids most weeks?

Yeah mate, I hate to break it to you, Voss doesnt rate him.

When you have Cerra, Walsh and Kennedy rotating on flanks and wings because of the limited CBA opportunities how are you expecting them to fit him in? All 5 of our core mids are better players than him right now and we have the best performing on ball group this year. When one goes down we are better served to increase the others on ball time.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Voss would rather Walsh in the guts more but for team balance and getting the best mix hes not getting that time. Same goes for Dow.

 

[Morro]

When you have Cerra, Walsh and Kennedy rotating on flanks and wings because of the limited CBA opportunities how are you expecting them to fit him in? All 5 of our core mids are better players than him right now and we have the best performing on ball group this year. When one goes down we are better served to increase the others on ball time.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Voss would rather Walsh in the guts more but for team balance and getting the best mix hes not getting that time. Same goes for Dow.

Strange contradiction. So he wants him in their more (half a brain and all that) but chooses not to?

So which is it? wants him in more, or he doesnt? I mean ultimately he has the choice.

Further to your point, your midfield is awesome, I agree, what an off season, but the reality is, even with all the injuries you have covered and covered well, Dow isnt getting picked. If your coach rated him, he would have played by now, anyone with half a brain would agree with that.

 

[Foxman98]

I saw it, and I saw the response to that which was spot on.

Each of the above are currently stronger AFL midfielders than Dow. There's no shame in that and it says more of their quality than Dow's perceived lack thereof.

If one is missing, we've shifted the magnets within that core group to cover, and have done so effectively. If two are missing at any one time, Dow would certainly come into consideration.

Which is why I brought up the guys. If Dow isn't getting a game when the only players to play every game are Docherty/Newman (Running Defenders), Weitering/Curn (KPP) and Fisher/Owies (Small forwards) suggests there has been many opportunities to bring Dow in for a game or 2 given his VFL form yet the coach opted against it

 

[Morro]

Which is why I brought up the guys. If Dow isn't getting a game when the only players to play every game are Docherty/Newman (Running Defenders), Weitering/Curn (KPP) and Fisher/Owies (Small forwards) suggests there has been many opportunities to bring Dow in for a game or 2 given his VFL form yet the coach opted against it

You might not be so new to the game afterall

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Which is why I brought up the guys. If Dow isn't getting a game when the only players to play every game are Docherty/Newman (Running Defenders), Weitering/Curn (KPP) and Fisher/Owies (Small forwards) suggests there has been many opportunities to bring Dow in for a game or 2 given his VFL form yet the coach opted against it

Whos making way? Nobody can seemingly answer that question. Whos CBAs are you cutting down?

 

[Foxman98]

Whos making way? Nobody can seemingly answer that question. Whos CBAs are you cutting down?

Carroll and Fisher have both gone through there during the injuries/Covid issues

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Carroll and Fisher have both gone through there during the injuries/Covid issues

Both play half forward. Dow does not.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Strange contradiction. So he wants him in their more (half a brain and all that) but chooses not to?

So which is it? wants him in more, or he doesnt? I mean ultimately he has the choice.

Think Hewett, Cerra and Cripps are best suited to win clearances and play out of the middle.

Walsh is obviously a gun wingman and is showing to be a very capable high half forward. He is currently the “5th”.

Dogs have also had issues with midfield balance, with Dunkley, Libba, Bont and Smith all having stints forward at stages.

Currently trying to fit 5 into 4. When we do cop a midfield injury the balance is almost better as a result.

 

[Morro]

Think Hewett, Cerra and Cripps are best suited to win clearances and play out of the middle.

Walsh is obviously a gun wingman and is showing to be a very capable high half forward. He is currently the “5th”.

Dogs have also had issues with midfield balance, with Dunkley, Libba, Bont and Smith all having stints forward at stages.

Currently trying to fit 5 into 4. When we do cop a midfield injury the balance is almost better as a result.

Thats a good explanation. Walsh the 5th, not a bad 5th FFS haha

So what's your opinion on Dow then?

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

What is the benefit of trading dow for a late pick. Yeah okay a second rounder makes sense but i highly doubt we would get that for him.

 

[Morro]

What is the benefit of trading dow for a late pick. Yeah okay a second rounder makes sense but i highly doubt we would get that for him.

To Carlton, not much, but to Dow, heaps. Thats the price of being a good team.