What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[Seeds]

The LNP’s run of unlikely PMs - Howard, Abbott, Turnbull and Morrison, comes to an end with Dutton. Hell will freeze over before Dutton wins a Federal election.

Thats what we all said about abbott.

 

[Seeds]

What's the bet Dutton gets wiped out by an ICAC investigation into his financial interest in child care centres?

Almost zero percent chance. It will have no real teeth. Certainly not to get rid of an opposition leader. They never do

 

[Seeds]

What are the odds Rupert Murdoch carks it, goes to hell where he belongs and Lachlan takes over during this term of parliament?

Well that would make murdoch and all the conservatives right. i.e. there is a god, heaven and hell. We should of been listening to religious nutters all along.

 

[Contra Mundum]

He will be an effective opposition leader - like Abbott was but on steroids. Great at opposing everything

 

[Gough]

He will be an effective opposition leader - like Abbott was but on steroids. Great at opposing everything

I can't see an Abbott style of opposition working again. There's no "good" government record to fall back on, invoking memories of the Morrison government won't be quite as stirring as talking up the Howard years, they won't be able to weaponise climate change like Abbott did and the consumption of media has fractured a great deal since in the intervening years. Just how a Dutton opposition goes about mounting a case to be returned to government will be fascinating to watch because it's going to require a something from him as yet unseen throughout his career.

 

[Saint]

Thats what we all said about abbott.

But even when Abbott was PM, everyone thought Dutton was worse.

It's like Rupert is testing us, about how evil a person he can get over the line. He's got a $1 bet with Kerry Stokes on it. Kerry bet him back that he can get BRS off a war-crime charge and turn him into a TV exec, Trading Places eat your heart out.

 

[Freomaniac]

Why not? Why would Murdoch, Stokes and Nine support Labor over the Coalition?

Dutton is gonna be a hard sell.


I am sure Dutton can relate to the common person. Good luck seeing Dutton getting the women votes

 

[Engimal v3]

The rebranding of Dutton will be hilarious. I wonder if they will paint some eyebrows on him?

Can't wait to see how they polish this turd lol

 

[Freomaniac]

Can't wait to see how they polish this turd lol

Your thoughts on Bob Katter? LoL

 

[Elroo]

I fully support Dutton becoming the opposition Leader with Barnacle Joyce as the National Leader.

A dream made in heaven.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I fully support Dutton becoming the opposition Leader with Barnacle Joyce as the National Leader.

A dream made in heaven.

it would be like Norf bring back Brad Scott

 

[Engimal v3]

it would be like Norf bring back Brad Scott

I don't see how a Dutton/Joyce leadership would result in a threepeat

 

[Kwality]

what happens is you have to declare it, but then its reviewed to see how the conflict should be managed

generally there are three options:

1) no influence possible, so conflict is no concern

2) influence is possible, but the conflict can be managed by exclusion of activity

3) influence is possible, but exclusion of activity is impossible

Dutton would have been (2) before. a conflict exists, but in his portfolio he has no influence on childcare

as opposition leader (and PM in waiting if an ALP minority govt fails) that conflict is now unavoidable, as he will have a key say in liberal policies around childcare, compensation, and so on

The suggestion is that Duttons wife has sold the business as a result of his leadership tilt speculation, not the normal process outlined.
The lack of detail of the claimed transaction(s) adds nothing to the claims.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

The suggestion is that Duttons wife has sold the business as a result of his leadership tilt speculation, not the normal process outlined.
The lack of detail of the claimed transaction(s) adds nothing to the claims.

if he is oppo leader, its a conflict

do you honestly think Dutton wasnt plan b'ing for months (esp given the state of the polls)?

 

[Contra Mundum]

I can't see an Abbott style of opposition working again. There's no "good" government record to fall back on, invoking memories of the Morrison government won't be quite as stirring as talking up the Howard years, they won't be able to weaponise climate change like Abbott did and the consumption of media has fractured a great deal since in the intervening years. Just how a Dutton opposition goes about mounting a case to be returned to government will be fascinating to watch because it's going to require a something from him as yet unseen throughout his career.

He'll be the crash test dummy while they look for a leader who is acceptable to the electors. He will just say:

• every Labor proposal or bit of legislation is socialism,
• all foreign policy initiatives or the normalisation of the relationship with China are "caving in to China",
• in two weeks it will be "Labor's catastrophic debt and deficit" .
• any concession to the Greens/Teals on climate will be a "betrayal of the Australian people"

I want Labor to do an "I move the member no longer be heard" once only for the shits and gigs - before that rule, and the Dorothy Dixer rule, are put into the dustbin of history

 

[Kwality]

if he is oppo leader, its a conflict

do you honestly think Dutton wasnt plan b'ing for months (esp given the state of the polls)?

Obviously he had put his hand up before.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Obviously he had put his hand up before.

more that if they lost, he'd know that scomo is going, so...

polls were also bad for frydo for months as well (thats been revealed now), so he would have known this too

 

[Freomaniac]

I only remember Anne Ruston as the South Australian witch who presided over the plunging of Jobseeker recipients back into poverty when the 'coronavirus supplement' ended.

Yep let's make the poorest more poor lol

 

[mill204]

 

[masai tu]

But even when Abbott was PM, everyone thought Dutton was worse.

It's like Rupert is testing us, about how evil a person he can get over the line. He's got a $1 bet with Kerry Stokes on it. Kerry bet him back that he can get BRS off a war-crime charge and turn him into a TV exec, Trading Places eat your heart out.

Who’s playing the Jaime-Lee Curtis role ?.

 

[Saint]

Who’s playing the Jaime-Lee Curtis role ?.

Katherine Deves or Kristina Kenneally. Neither has a job.

 

[HairyO]

if he is oppo leader, its a conflict

do you honestly think Dutton wasnt plan b'ing for months (esp given the state of the polls)?

Rudd's wife made tens of millions of dollars with her business. Was that a conflict of interest?

 

[Number37]

Rudd's wife made tens of millions of dollars with her business. Was that a conflict of interest?

All of it before he became PM.

 

[Pie eyed]

Well at least there are alternatives outside of the big 2 of ALP and LNP.

Glad the teal group emerged with a few seats.

Again, greens have their small fan base. Although they won't get many seats in this election, they will get a few seats in the senate or lower house

The Greens got 11.76% of the primary Vote
The Nationals got a paltry 3.95%
The Liberal National party of Queensland got 7.88%

The United Australia Party got more primary votes than the Nationals at 4.11%

Barnaby will make the Nats electorally irrelevant in very quick time if he is not rolled.
Voldemort will be distancing himself from the Nats too unless they ditch the drunken adulterer

 

[Pie eyed]

Rudd's wife made tens of millions of dollars with her business. Was that a conflict of interest?

Not if her business did not profit directly from insider information about legislation being worked on by a spouse, convenient legislative change, Government (taxpayer) support during any type of financial crisis and Government contracts let without tender or even oversight.