Toast Round 11 = Collingwood 79-75 Carlton

[Chrispiesssss]

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Surprised Ollie didn’t get a vote.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

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The two coaches votes must have been:

5 - JDG
4 - noble / Walsh
3 - Howe
2 - Cerra / Sidebottom
1 - Murphy

5 - Walsh / Noble
4 - JDG
3 - Murphy
2 - Cerra / Sidebottom
1 - noble / Walsh

 

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The two coaches votes must have been:

5 - JDG
4 - noble
3 - Howe
2 - Cerra / Sidebottom
1 - Murphy

5 - Walsh
4 - JDG
3 - Murphy
2 - Cerra / Sidebottom
1 - noble

It is interesting that one coach can see a BOG whilst the other puts them outside the votes. Wonder if it was Voss giving Murphy no votes because he did or didn't do something as instructed?

 

[Pie eyed]

I

no. just imagine how he was feeling after the loss with the umpiring decision as the reason...... he must have felt so bad to mention it...it's a shame carlton cant appeal the loss and get the AFL to say that the umpire was wrong and that free kick should have been paid and that walsh would have kicked straight and carlton would have won the game.... he really should appeal

agree.
If he wins I want a couple of extra Premiership cups sent directly to Collingwood.

 

[sideswipe]

Sorry Jathanas when is talking about a PERSON'S character misogynistic?

Because they are women.

Don't worry I'll drop it but be sure I see right through the bs.

EDIT: -

To be sure you understand completely . . .

My mother was British and as a young girl was a card carrying, street marching Women's Liberationist right in the centre of where feminism was born - not some second rate armchair novelist who capitalised on the cause - and our entire family including and especially myself held her up as an example and sort of a heroine of her time.

So don't paint me with that misogynist label.

The current WLM leadership are a pack of man haters that have managed to hypnotise the world with anti male rhetoric and debase the aims of the original feminist movement but my mother would know what to call them.

So give me a holiday and I'll happily take it but don't stick that label on the son of one of the true and genuine marchers for feminism right at the core of where it all began because it won't fit sunshine.

I know this edited post will be wiped and that's fine because I wanted YOU to understand that I know the hysteria that surrounds even a third hand report of a rumour of anything but prostrated wonderment for women is manufactured and regulated in the main by fear.

I like you Jathanas but I have NEVER been so FURIOUS goodbye for a while.

 

[neilk]

It is interesting that one coach can see a BOG whilst the other puts them outside the votes. Wonder if it was Voss giving Murphy no votes because he did or didn't do something as instructed?

Walsh?

 

[DinoSoar]

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Curious vote allocation there, I wouldn’t have said DeGoey had basically a BOG game. He was good yes, but worthy of a 5 and a 4? Yeah nah.

 

[jmac70]

Walsh?

Who’s Walsh?

 

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Walsh?

Fixed!

 

[Jen2310]

Curious vote allocation there, I wouldn’t have said DeGoey had basically a BOG game. He was good yes, but worthy of a 5 and a 4? Yeah nah.

24 disposals. 1 goal. 12 score involvments. 505 metres gained. 4 tackles.

 

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Curious vote allocation there, I wouldn’t have said DeGoey had basically a BOG game. He was good yes, but worthy of a 5 and a 4? Yeah nah.

The coaches have to give 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

The two coaches votes must have been:

5 - JDG
4 - noble / Walsh
3 - Howe
2 - Cerra / Sidebottom
1 - Murphy

5 - Walsh / Noble
4 - JDG
3 - Murphy
2 - Cerra / Sidebottom
1 - noble / Walsh

I think the better way to show this is:

JDG - 5 & 4
Murphy - 3 & 1
Howe - 3
Cerra & Sidey - got 2s

The coach that gave Howe 3 must have given Murphy 1.

Noble & Walsh are the difficult ones.

One got a BOG 5 and nothing from the other coach.

The other got a 4 (from the coach that gave JDG 5) & 1 from other coach.

Walsh / Noble possible scores :
5 & 0 or 4 & 1.

 

[barrackers]

Luxury! I was a bit slow getting tickets and was in Row CC on level 4 in the SKW stand. DD was the last row.

If I’d have known you could have had my seat in the Ponsfold a few rows from the front. I was away and unable to use it against the blues.

 

[augie]

Couldn't care less about the umpire blaming. It's loser talk and carries no weight. You should only bag umpires after a win, otherwise it just sounds like you're trying to make excuses.

With that in mind, let me tee off. Ollie Henry gets a holding the ball free kick paid against him in the first for ducking into a tackle and getting caught (note also the tackler wrapped his legs around Ollie's head, but accept the free was probably there). 3 minutes to go Steele kicks into our forward line. Ball spills out the back, Plowman takes possession and ducks his head. Cox makes high contact and Plowman gets a free for high contact. WTF

 

[foreigner]

We've beaten 3 of the top 5, had Geelong on toast and pushed Brions the whole way. The West Coast loss is just mind blowingly staggering. It will never make sense seeing how bad they are.

Psychological?

 

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I think the better way to show this is:

JDG - 5 & 4
Murphy - 3 & 1
Howe - 3
Cerra & Sidey - got 2s

Noble & Walsh are the difficult ones.

One got a BOG 5 and nothing from the other coach.

The other got a 4 (from the coach that gave JDG 5) & 1 from other coach.

Walsh / Noble possible scores :
5 & 0 or 4 & 1.

Sometimes Young Ageists can provide useful information.

 

[neilk]

If I’d have known you could have had my seat in the Ponsfold a few rows from the front. I was away and unable to use it against the blues.

Thanks barrackers, was with my son as well. My bad for being tardy.

 

[DinoSoar]

The coaches have to give 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Yes, so 1 coach gave him 5 (BOG) and the other 4 (2nd best) to give the 9, so in effect BOG. It could be argued that Crisp was just as good as they had similar numbers, main difference was Crispy only scored a point whereas DeGoey got a goal. My point being DeG was good but he wasn’t best on, did he have that much influence on the game? Did he turn the game on its head? Was he everywhere? 1 centre clearance won from attending 21 centre bounces and 4 tackles laid tends to suggest not and he certainly didn’t win the ball out of the centre. But hey, everyone has an opinion … we all know what Dirty Harry says about opinions. For me, a 3 and a 3 would have been fair and reasonable. If it was based on pure numbers, Cerra had a better game and he only scored 2 votes so I think it is curious which metrics coaches use to award votes. Obviously not the same ones that joe public does.

 

[augie]

More annoying than Daisy?

See this annoys me. So many in the game day thread bagging Daisy, and much of it the usual misogynist, incel crap about her forward/appearance.

Watch the replay and listen to her commentary and she was by far the most insightful, and is as good as anyone at understanding and communicating what is going on. When the pies were blasting them away in the first quarter, her comment was that Carlton needed to get possession and chip it around a bit. Carlton did that and got the game back on their terms. When Tyler kicked the goal she made the comment that he wouldn't have had a better two minutes in his career. I think we all agree. And when N Daicos picked up that loose ball in the last quarter her comment that we know how good Carlton's small forwards can be, but Daicos was better, was exactly what I was thinking. And with less than two minutes to go and the pies chipping it around (eventually to J Daicos) she was saying that Carlton need to push up even if it means leaving one of our forwards loose out the back. Again, spot on. And when Darcy went for the mark with less than a minute to go and knicked it out of bounds, Daisy was immediate in noting a point would have been better. Again, spot on.

 

[Pistol Night]

Did I imagine it or were we also on the receiving end of a sling tackle where a player hit his head on the ground? Was a few beers deep yesterday and thought I'd see if anything came of it today. Maybe I was too many deep.

 

[Markfs]

i'd like to cloudshout for the first time in public....

 

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Yes, so 1 coach gave him 5 (BOG) and the other 4 (2nd best) to give the 9, so in effect BOG. It could be argued that Crisp was just as good as they had similar numbers, main difference was Crispy only scored a point whereas DeGoey got a goal. My point being DeG was good but he wasn’t best on, did he have that much influence on the game? Did he turn the game on its head? Was he everywhere? 1 centre clearance won from attending 21 centre bounces and 4 tackles laid tends to suggest not and he certainly didn’t win the ball out of the centre. But hey, everyone has an opinion … we all know what Dirty Harry says about opinions. For me, a 3 and a 3 would have been fair and reasonable. If it was based on pure numbers, Cerra had a better game and he only scored 2 votes so I think it is curious which metrics coaches use to award votes. Obviously not the same ones that joe public does.

Sgt O'Neill said the same about excuses.


All I see that happened is 2 coaches agreed with your opinion that JDG was basically BOG. A 3 and 3 might have been "fair and reasonable", but as the coaches vote in isolation, they can only give votes as they see fit.

 

[Markfs]

Did I imagine it or were we also on the receiving end of a sling tackle where a player hit his head on the ground? Was a few beers deep yesterday and thought I'd see if anything came of it today. Maybe I was too many deep.

You can disregard what you were thinking....it might be a good longterm strategy

 

[Markfs]

Sgt O'Neill said the same about excuses.


All I see that happened is 2 coaches agreed with your opinion that JDG was basically BOG. A 3 and 3 might have been "fair and reasonable", but as the coaches vote in isolation, they can only give votes as they see fit.

never ignore the philosophy of an american with an assault rifle...

 

[Pistol Night]

You can disregard what you were thinking....it might be a good longterm strategy

Sorry?