USA Roe, the evangelicals and the war on choice

[Seeds]

Just for shits and giggles, how about considering the idea I saw that all men get vasectomies which can be reversed when they prove they are mentally, financially and emotionally capable of fathering a child - and, further, that they are prepared to put their money and time into the raising of that child until the age of 18 (or 21).

Problem solved before it takes hold, prevention better than the cure, that sort of thing, and I'm sure men wouldn't mind being told what to do with their bodies and their health (hell, even the small percentage whose vasectomies can't be reversed would see the bigger picture, I'm sure).

or people could just use contraceptions that dont involve surgery. You know, like a rubber. And if one slips through to the keeper then they can just have an abortion.

sounds a lot easier then having every male get a vasectomy.

 

[Seeds]

You do realise that a human life cannot be a human life without the woman don't you?

This from the original court decision:

The Court was skeptical of the state's argument that Constitutional protections begin at conception. The Constitution doesn't provide a definition of a "person." But, it does say that its protections cover those who are "born or naturalized" in the United States. After examining other cases relating to unborn children, the Court concluded that "the unborn have never been recognized in the law as persons in the whole sense."

You do realise the court here isnt providing any rationale right? The court rule is simply based on the view of what the court concluded before. There is no argument here.

 

[Brad Goodman]

Well we wouldnt have the internet to post on big footy.

hollywood movies.

computer games

electric vehicles

I mean we already have those things.

I guess I’d miss the NBA…

 

[Tiger08]

Surely Biden will now just pass federal legislation? The Dems have control so why not?

It always seemed a bit odd that it was legalised as a 'constitutional' right anyway.

 

[Seeds]

I mean we already have those things.

I guess I’d miss the NBA…

yes but we wouldnt get any more. I dont know if i could survive without 3 new avenger films every year.

 

[Seeds]

Surely Biden will now just pass federal legislation? The Dems have control so why not?

It always seemed a bit odd that it was legalised as a 'constitutional' right anyway.

Abortion is more of a natural right then free health care. I.e. it doesnt require a state.

 

[Seeds]

95% vaccinated! Right
Surely by now all of the unvaccinated are either dead or in hospital on ventilators.
Over 7 million cases of covid Australian - there should not be a single unvaccinated Australian who has not suffered from COVID
Yet, I personally know of 5
There is no explaining how covid infections and covid deaths peaked in step with the vaccine roll-out. You can follow the science but when the science is following the money - you don't need the middle man - just follow the money.

covids death rate was around 1-6 percent pre vaccines. Hospitalization rates less then 20 percent.

do you understand maths as you post makes implies you dont?

 

[Tiger08]

Abortion is more of a natural right then free health care. I.e. it doesnt require a state.

Not sure that it's a constitution issue but I'm not a lawyer..

But why don't they just legislate it anyway?

 

[Seeds]

Not sure that it's a constitution issue but I'm not a lawyer..

But why don't they just legislate it anyway?

Im guessing they need a large majority in congress and enough republicans simply wont vote for it.

 

[Werewolf]

 

[campbell]

So sad to be a woman in America today.

That country are third world.Like some autocratic African country.

The government allows children to buy semi auto guns, with no regard to what they do with said gun.

That same government dictates that a woman cant terminate any pregnancy. Too bad if remaining pregnant also terminates the womans life.

They are stuffed.

This is what happens when the boundaries of church and state mesh into one.

 

[Seeds]

So sad to be a woman in America today.

That country are third world.Like some autocratic African country.

The government allows children to buy semi auto guns, with no regard to what they do with said gun.

That same government dictates that a woman cant terminate any pregnancy. Too bad if remaining pregnant also terminates the womans life.

They are stuffed.

This is what happens when the boundaries of church and state mesh into one.

Its not the same government. The first is federal. The second is some states.

you do identify the cause. Its the church.

the church has the same goal here.

 

[The Sultan]

So the supreme court can over ride a state's guns laws, but enforces a state's rights to ban abortion. I heard a snippet on the news that one of the judges is welcome to challenges on gay marriage, contraception, and gay sex.... AND why the F *** is the highest law curtowing to the religious right

 

[Festerz]

And a reminder that overturning Roe v Wade does not BAN Abortions.

Only safe ones.

 

[western royboy]

So the supreme court can over ride a state's guns laws, but enforces a state's rights to ban abortion. I heard a snippet on the news that one of the judges is welcome to challenges on gay marriage, contraception, and gay sex.... AND why the F *** is the highest law curtowing to the religious right

Pretty simple the US allows you to pick your own judges for life! and if you’ve got the numbers there’s nothing you can do about it.

it is simply amazing that so many people follow blindly a book of fantasy littered with inaccuracies and blatant lies impossibilities 2000 odd years down the track despite all the advancements in technology and science. Praise the Lord…ffs

 

[The Sultan]

it is simply amazing that so many people follow blindly a book of fantasy littered with inaccuracies and blatant lies impossibilities 2000 odd years down the track despite all the advancements in technology and science. Praise the Lord…ffs

Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts.” (Ezekiel 23:18-21)

 

[Seeds]

This is the legacy of RBG for refusing to step down in obamas second term.

 

[Seeds]

So the supreme court can over ride a state's guns laws, but enforces a state's rights to ban abortion. I heard a snippet on the news that one of the judges is welcome to challenges on gay marriage, contraception, and gay sex.... AND why the F *** is the highest law curtowing to the religious right

Its bcause the right to bare arms is in the constitution while the right to have an abortion is not.

these nutters treat the comstitution as if its some unchangeable bible written by a god. Including the bits that have been changed.

 

[Hank Scorpion]

Shithole country.

About time the 60% of sane ones cut the theocrats loose and let them form their own taliban nation. I don't know how they put up with conservatives constantly enforcing their dogma on everyone, and with the gall to be so preachy while living off handouts and freebies from successful blue states.

 

[Hank Scorpion]

Pretty simple the US allows you to pick your own judges for life! and if you’ve got the numbers there’s nothing you can do about it.

it is simply amazing that so many people follow blindly a book of fantasy littered with inaccuracies and blatant lies impossibilities 2000 odd years down the track despite all the advancements in technology and science. Praise the Lord…ffs

Crazy to think that someone's senate vote from 1986 is still shaping policy direction today, and could be for another decade yet, even if Clarence Thomas fell into a decrepit, vegetative state.

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

the melts are hilarious, keep it going

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

Pretty simple the US allows you to pick your own judges for life! and if you’ve got the numbers there’s nothing you can do about it.

it is simply amazing that so many people follow blindly a book of fantasy littered with inaccuracies and blatant lies impossibilities 2000 odd years down the track despite all the advancements in technology and science. Praise the Lord…ffs

just dont forget to apply the same principles to the Green Religion you follow

 

[western royboy]

just dont forget to apply the same principles to the Green Religion you follow

I don’t follow any religon but please continue

 

[AFC AFeederClub]

So sad to be a woman in America today.

That country are third world.Like some autocratic African country.

The government allows children to buy semi auto guns, with no regard to what they do with said gun.

That same government dictates that a woman cant terminate any pregnancy. Too bad if remaining pregnant also terminates the womans life.

They are stuffed.

This is what happens when the boundaries of church and state mesh into one.

dont worry there will be plenty of states that will still allow it, its just a law reverting is from a federal level to a state level

 

[Father Jack]

This is the legacy of RBG for refusing to step down in obamas second term.

What difference would that have made?