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MVPs are voted across the entire league, not just the GCs playing list you silly goose.And they voted for GAJ because he was the ONLY veteran footballer at a club. Everybody else was still a teenager. It was a given he’d win it. Same with his 4 B&Fs at the Suns, only got 2 at the cats. Do you really think an 18 year old could’ve won the B&Fs at the suns? The contract pretty much had 2 MVPs, 4 B&Fs and leading goal kickers on it in invisible ink. Plus he didn’t give a s**t about winning games so he could play as selfish as wanted which he did. He is the ultimate state hoarder in the game taking advantage of being at a start up club, you guys have fallen for the ruse think he is better than he actually is.
Your whole logic on MVP is laughable. It has nothing to do with being the most valuable player in your team. It is simply the best player as voted by the players. Otherwise midfielders would never win it. Would be guys like Stewart and May.
And as far as being in a weak team helping him you might just want to check how many other players have won the MVP from poor teams. I can tell you. Only 1 player in the last 30 years (Cripps) has won the MVP from a bottom half of the ladder team.
BINGO!Whichever player didnt play for the OPs team.
Ablett's only poor final in his first 17 (Martin has played in 15 up to this stage of his career), which was his first stint at Geelong was the 2005 semi against Sydney when Nic Davis got them up from out of nowhere. In his second stint at Geelong when he was 34 - 36 years old, he played a further 8 finals and didn't set the world on fire, a little cameo here and there to get the team rolling or to keep them in touch and ended with him busting his shoulder in the opening minutes of the 2020 gf.
Let's see what Dusty's putting up when he's 34 to 36 years of age.
Again GAJ got 2 MVPs at the Suns because he was the only player not 18 years old, people just don’t think so they. “bUt He DoMiNaTeD tHe CoMp FoR 7 YeArs” at a club that didn’t make finals, yeah would be shaking in my boots going up against GAJ at the Suns
ROAR!Poll looks like it could go either way at the moment...
MVPs are voted across the entire league, not just the GCs playing list you silly goose.
WHE not playing for a franchise team. Sadly, Abblett did for cash. Left his team stranded for the dollar then tried to come back and it was sad.
That makes it even better the fact that his in a s**t team it’s not the Brownlow where votes are stolen from other guns in the team.Again GAJ got 2 MVPs at the Suns because he was the only player not 18 years old, people just don’t think so they. “bUt He DoMiNaTeD tHe CoMp FoR 7 YeArs” at a club that didn’t make finals, yeah would be shaking in my boots going up against GAJ at the Suns
Yes he left his team stranded with their 17 remaining all Australians and an impending premiership for a 220 percent pay increase. Which of course we know no other player would ever do
Sadly, that's why he'll never be as great as Dusty. A man of principle.
Line them up against the wall and if it’s a H&A game you choose Gazza and if it’s a final you choose Dusty.
Gazza was a very good finals player. Dusty is the best ever. So deciding who is better depends on how much weight you place on finals over H&A.
Dusty’s very best is better but he hasn’t done it as consistently. Dusty can do everything Gaz can but Gaz can’t do everything Dusty can.
One other consideration is Geelong remained a great team without Gazza, so for whatever reason they didn’t miss him. And Gazza was superb individually at Gold Coast but the way he played was not conducive to GC being a great team. It was all built around Gazza being a great player - loop around handballs to him, 1-2’s, no-one else included in the feast except Gaz. He was good enough to have them finals bound before busting his shoulder, but the rest of the team hadn’t developed and when the ‘old’ Gazza never returned to his best post injury the team was a rabble.
Dusty is the ultimate ‘team’ player, Gazza was never that.
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I'm not putting myself through that first thing on a Saturday.You clearly don’t read my multiple responses on this issue bro
All clubs have rich benefactors helping out players with nice post-football employment opportunities, cheeky property deals etc. Cept GCS and GWS who have to rely on AFL "ambassador payments". Plenny nice sponsorship deals for the Geelong boys too, Cotton On whatever.You seriously think that other players were offered $1 million PER SEASON more than they were getting at their existing club, and knocked it back. Players like Martin who we know for a fact have not been offered that sort of money, we are supposed to imagine that they would not have done that?
Luke Hodge who finished his career at a different club, wouldn’t have gone elsewhere for a $1 million a year pay rise?
That makes it even better the fact that his in a s**t team it’s not the Brownlow where votes are stolen from other guns in the team.
If dusty was drafted to gold coast he’s. Cv would nearly be empty.
Principal - I like how you say that like leaving one job for another with a huge pay increase is something that unprincipled people do.
I'm not putting myself through that first thing on a Saturday.
All clubs have rich benefactors helping out players with nice post-football employment opportunities, cheeky property deals etc. Cept GCS and GWS who have to rely on AFL "ambassador payments". Plenny nice sponsorship deals for the Geelong boys too, Cotton On whatever.
Anyway I don't think 800,000k and 1.8mill is that different. Like if you wanna get drunk in your garage by yourself and you got 2 slabs of beer that's probably gonna get you drunk, you don't need 20 slabs, know what I'm saying? He was set up for life, but also money-hungry piggyman who wanted more. Maybe he was just scared of having to play more finals, he coulda played heaps of them but he was holding prayer groups with karmichael coke-man instead.
I don't think Principals leaving jobs for better pay is unprincipled. This is about football, and sadly Abblett is guilty of chasing the dollar , then realizing it was a mistake and coming back with his tail between his legs. Something Dusty never did, which makes him an all time great.
How much money u think an investment property costs?What does any of what you just said even mean? ‘You already make a good wage albeit one not even close to being commensurate with your standing in the game, in a career that ends when you are 35, so you shouldn’t take a better offer because in 12 years a religiophobe on a footy forum will judge you.’
Set up for life? What, so Ablett’s lifestyle for the 60 years following his retirement should be dictated by whether he wants to appease a bunch of non-footballers who would do exactly the same as him in that situation? ‘Well I could have actually bought my children an investment property of their own but there was a guy who questioned my loyalty and principles so I decided against signing the contract and now here we are.’