Anthony Albanese - How long?

[SBD Gonzalez]

Cutting the numbers of staffers available to independents from four down to one each is just petty and plain dumb from Albanese.

Greens also say they've been told their staff number will stay same as 2019, despite going from 10 MPs to 16- i.e. same staff over more offices, an effective cut.

What purpose does it serve other than to alienate the very people whose support you will need over the next 3 years?

Maybe he’s not quite the master negotiator his supporters portrayed him as.

 

[Financialpanther]

Maybe he’s not quite the master negotiator his supporters portrayed him as.

 

[Kwality]

Very dumb.

Or the basis for horse trading ?
The Teals are disillusioned Libs, the Greens disillusioned ALP.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

The Teals are disillusioned Libs, the Greens disillusioned ALP.

While the LNP are disillusioned Nazi's

 

[Kwality]

While the LNP are disillusioned Nazi's

How the use of Nazi's is trivialised .....

 

[Baltimore Jack]

How the use of Nazi's is trivialised .....

Not sure any other Parties had a member who's Uncle was a member of the SS

 

[Crankyhawk]

Or the basis for horse trading ?
The Teals are disillusioned Libs, the Greens disillusioned ALP.

As in “vote for our policy and we will allocate you more staffers”? That will just backfire.
They (alp) are citing it as cost control. This would be more effective if they openly demonstrated how much staff had been cut from ALP electorate offices. And even then the government have benefit of party machine.
The optics are an attempt to reduce the ability of independents to do what they were elected to be.

This is a piss poor decision poorly communicated

 

[Kwality]

As in “vote for our policy and we will allocate you more staffers”? That will just backfire.
They (alp) are citing it as cost control. This would be more effective if they openly demonstrated how much staff had been cut from ALP electorate offices. And even then the government have benefit of party machine.
The optics are an attempt to reduce the ability of independents to do what they were elected to be.

This is a piss poor decision poorly communicated

Not that rank.
Do we know what the arrangements for the Opposition are yet?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Or the basis for horse trading ?
The Teals are disillusioned Libs, the Greens disillusioned ALP.

The Libs aren't libs anymore, they are conservatives.

 

[Kwality]

Not sure any other Parties had a member who's Uncle was a member of the SS

Feeble & foolish.

 

[Chief]

The optics are an attempt to reduce the ability of independents to do what they were elected to be.

Couldn't really care less about the representatives themselves, but they represent citizens who deserve proper representation.

 

[Gralin]

Or the basis for horse trading ?
The Teals are disillusioned Libs, the Greens disillusioned ALP.

Lol no its not that simple though i get your unable to understand that

 

[Pie eyed]

While the LNP are disillusioned Nazi's

Apart from Dutton. Too stupid to be disillusioned.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I personally think Albo needs to back down swiftly and cleanly from this massive misstep.

He has enormous political capital in the bank right now.

He can use it to bullock through an unpopular, unwise decision, or he can spend a bit of it on showing some humility and common sense, and possibly emerging even stronger for it.

First misstep? Albanese infuriates the new crossbench he will need to pass laws

Anthony Albanese led negotiations with the crossbench between 2010 and 2013. Now he’s thumbed his nose at the new batch of independents, some of whom he will need to pass laws.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Baltimore Jack]

I personally think Albo needs to back down swiftly and cleanly from this massive misstep.

He has enormous political capital in the bank right now.

He can use it to bullock through an unpopular, unwise decision, or he can spend a bit of it on showing some humility and common sense, and possibly emerging even stronger for it.

First misstep? Albanese infuriates the new crossbench he will need to pass laws

Anthony Albanese led negotiations with the crossbench between 2010 and 2013. Now he’s thumbed his nose at the new batch of independents, some of whom he will need to pass laws.

www.smh.com.au

Just do a deal with them and get it out of the media

Instead of 4 offer 2 with a review in 12 months time
Jesus H Christ, its not that difficult

 

[Gralin]

He's also been silent on Roe v Wade, even Boris Johnson has condemned it

 

[Johnny Bananas]

I personally think Albo needs to back down swiftly and cleanly from this massive misstep.

He has enormous political capital in the bank right now.

He can use it to bullock through an unpopular, unwise decision, or he can spend a bit of it on showing some humility and common sense, and possibly emerging even stronger for it.

First misstep? Albanese infuriates the new crossbench he will need to pass laws

Anthony Albanese led negotiations with the crossbench between 2010 and 2013. Now he’s thumbed his nose at the new batch of independents, some of whom he will need to pass laws.

www.smh.com.au

It's especially stupid when he doesn't have control of the Senate and needs both the Greens and either Pocock or Lambie to get anything through. Pissing them all off immediately is unlikely to have any positive effects.

I had hoped Albo would have learned something from Rudd's open contempt for the Greens and how that cost Labor in pursuing a climate bill, but it seems he hasn't. This is an especially bad sign for the prospect of getting an emissions cut higher than 43% legislated, because if Albo won't play ball with the teals (let alone the Greens) on something as small as staffers, what hope is there of him negotiating in good faith for a higher emissions cut, rather than saying "my way or the highway" like Rudd did?

If Albo agrees to the teals' policy of 60% reduction, or a figure close to it, it would make the teals look like they're actually effective representatives who deliver what they promise. The value of this is that it would effectively shut the Liberals out of those seats for at least another election or two, greatly reducing their chances of winning government. It's a good opportunity for Labor, but I'm not sure they have the foresight to recognise it and take it, especially given the contempt they're showing for all crossbenchers at the moment.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

He's also been silent on Roe v Wade, even Boris Johnson has condemned it

To be fair, Boris has very good reasons to support the right to abortion, having no doubt been responsible for many of them.

 

[Gralin]

To be fair, Boris has very good reasons to support the right to abortion, having no doubt been responsible for many of them.

I wouldn't be surprised if Albo it's pro choice.
He's Catholic and he supports the religious discrimination bill and thinks people shouldn't have a right to the pronouns of their choice.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

It's especially stupid when he doesn't have control of the Senate and needs both the Greens and either Pocock or Lambie to get anything through. Pissing them all off immediately is unlikely to have any positive effects.

I had hoped Albo would have learned something from Rudd's open contempt for the Greens and how that cost Labor in pursuing a climate bill, but it seems he hasn't. This is an especially bad sign for the prospect of getting an emissions cut higher than 43% legislated, because if Albo won't play ball with the teals (let alone the Greens) on something as small as staffers, what hope is there of him negotiating in good faith for a higher emissions cut, rather than saying "my way or the highway" like Rudd did?

If Albo agrees to the teals' policy of 60% reduction, or a figure close to it, it would make the teals look like they're actually effective representatives who deliver what they promise. The value of this is that it would effectively shut the Liberals out of those seats for at least another election or two, greatly reducing their chances of winning government. It's a good opportunity for Labor, but I'm not sure they have the foresight to recognise it and take it, especially given the contempt they're showing for all crossbenchers at the moment.

Very good post.

If Albo is savvy, he'll keep the teals n Greens close, and that freezes out the turd Coalition.

If he doesn't, all those stereotypes about machine politics will probably turn out to be sadly true.

 

[Gralin]

Very good post.

If Albo is savvy, he'll keep the teals n Greens close, and that freezes out the turd Coalition.

If he doesn't, all those stereotypes about machine politics will probably turn out to be sadly true.

You still don't think they are true?
How much more evidence do you need?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

You still don't think they are true?
How much more evidence do you need?

Well I'm not a Canberra insider so I can't say. As an outsider, I'm hoping to see signs of Albanese rising above at least some of that schitte.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Well I'm not a Canberra insider so I can't say. As an outsider, I'm hoping to see signs of Albanese rising above at least some of that schitte.

I've long since accepted that 2022 Albo is a shadow of 2010-2013 Albo. I think he likes power too much at this point to play the long game.

 

[Maggie5]

Watching Insiders this morning provided a little bit more info on staffing of for backbenchers.

Independents get at least one staff which was the norm until Turnbull gave Cathy McGowan 3, then Morrison gave Craig Kelly 4.
Mark butler when in opposition had 2. Staffers weren't the same for everyone.

They are increasing resources in government library so they can do research there.

Not sure 4 is need maybe two? Across all backbenchers.

I don't have an issue with making it fairer.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I've long since accepted that 2022 Albo is a shadow of 2010-2013 Albo. I think he likes power too much at this point to play the long game.

My jury is still out.