Opinion Non-Crows AFL 5: Save Ken

[BRL121]

Cripps is taller than Wayne Carey and Tony Lockett, who were the same height as Polly Farmer.

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Cripps did a bit of rucking on the weekend.

 

[GROTTO]

Cripps is taller than Wayne Carey and Tony Lockett, who were the same height as Polly Farmer.

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Dermott would be the size of the tall mids today.

 

[Interceptor]

Kerls had a fierce determination about him like none you’ve ever seen. He epitomized everything about the old blood ‘n’ guts style of footy.

In a sign of how the game has changed over the years, he was the boundary rider for AFL games in the early days of the Crows. One night he interviewed Daryl Hart, who was a Crows assistant coach at the time. They were both the same height. Hart had been a rover, Kerls had been a ruckman.

He wasn't a ruckman, he was a ruck-rover, big difference.

 

[thebirdman 24]

No wonder we let Cameron go. Kicks too many goals for a small forward.

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[GROTTO]

No wonder we let Cameron go. Kicks too many goals for a small forward.

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F**k that, same with Stengle.

We dont need that s**t at the AFC.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

No wonder we let Cameron go. Kicks too many goals for a small forward.

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We didn't really have a choice did we? He wanted to go to Brisbane.

 

[Geoffa32]

Dermott would be the size of the tall mids today.

Tall mid by Hamish Ogilvie's standard.

Dermie listed at 186cm....

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[Geoffa32]

We didn't really have a choice did we? He wanted to go to Brisbane.

Yeah we did. Give him the money he wanted and is worth.

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[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

29

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

was contracted too from memory

 

[StonesThrow]

This is a high quality game. Good pressure from both teams. Precision kicking. Brisbane just a bit better and capitalising.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Notice both coaches spend a fair bit of time coaching from the boundary. Too cold for Nicks to leave his box and get into the players faces.

 

[GROTTO]

Yeah we did. Give him the money he wanted and is worth.

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Look it made sense to sign on for a longer term an aging Eddie than have a younger exciting small forward with so much more potential.

You dont need them.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Yeah we did. Give him the money he wanted and is worth.

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Hmm, we really don't like small forwards who can kick goals do we?

 

[Bay62]

Bay62

Do you go back that far?

 

[GROTTO]

Do you go back that far?

What?

 

[maxlilly]

Do you go back that far?

That's GROTTO in the blazer in the front of the photo

 

[maxlilly]

What a career in football. Wow.

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What I find amazing about his career was the amount of times he changed club as a player and as a coach.
Back in those days, loyalty to a club was a big thing.
I reckon it would have taken a lot of courage to do that back then. It was widely frowned upon changing clubs.

 

[FR0GGY]

Bay62

Just a few people there!

 

[Interceptor]

What I find amazing about his career was the amount of times he changed club as a player and as a coach.
Back in those days, loyalty to a club was a big thing.
I reckon it would have taken a lot of courage to do that back then. It was widely frowned upon changing clubs.

Pretty certain that even after winning flags with South and Westies in the 60s, he had conflicts with management and that was the main reason for leaving.
Jack Oatey left Norwood after 3 flags due to some kind of internal clash as well, so it wasn't unheard of.

 

[beagle2]

He wasn't a ruckman, he was a ruck-rover, big difference.

He definitely contested the bounces. At 6 ft 3 I was taller than anyone on Westies list
Most people are a lot taller now Five of my six nephews range from 3to 7 inches taller than I am

 

[Dudersaurus]

Look it made sense to sign on for a longer term an aging Eddie than have a younger exciting small forward with so much more potential.

You dont need them.

Genuine question, and I think the answer might be different today than it was 6 weeks ago, but would people prefer Cameron or Fog going forward?

We would never have had both.


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[skittlebrew]

Charlie Cameron was contracted too from memory

* he was playing well. You can see the opposition shitting themselves around him due to his electric speed and agility. Charlie has really improved his positioning and use of body contact too.

 

[GROTTO]

Genuine question, and I think the answer might be different today than it was 6 weeks ago, but would people prefer Cameron or Fog going forward?

We would never have had both.


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Charlie is an elite small forward, so you would take him over Fogarty.

The question is a bit more complicated as had we had him in 2018,19 he may have helped us break into the 8. However, is a need for now?

Charlie is 27 and Fogarty 22.

With Fogarty there is the assumption that his trajectory suggests he could become a good forward for us, when we are potentially competing for a flag in 5+ years time.

The easy answer is to take Charlie as he is 100% known quantity that is elite. But he probably has another 4-5 years left only in him.

 

[treeman]

Why doesn’t he play him there then?

Exactly what I was thinking. I suppose it's because he's elite up forward and lycett is already an elite ruckman.

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[Thetrader15]

Charlie is an elite small forward, so you would take him over Fogarty.

The question is a bit more complicated as had we had him in 2018,19 he may have helped us break into the 8. However, is a need for now?

Charlie is 27 and Fogarty 22.

With Fogarty there is the assumption that his trajectory suggests he could become a good forward for us, when we are potentially competing for a flag in 5+ years time.

The easy answer is to take Charlie as he is 100% known quantity that is elite. But he probably has another 4-5 years left only in him.

The other factor was managing a tight salary cap at that point.