110% correct. Our smalls were often caught way up the ground when the ball was coming into Charlie and Harry on numerous occasions.
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Autopsy 2022 Rd 18 Blues overpowered by classy Cats
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Our game from approx 9min in… they focus on the Cameron/Young match up, also have a bit a a crack at midfield for not working hard enough
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I was going to mention this at some point in the game thread as it was ultimately immaterial to the result, but it did feel like the bounce of the ball went the way of Geelong every time in 50-50 umpiring calls.
You could see on the broadcast Sam Docherty shaking his head and looking bemused several times at umpiring calls, not something I normally associate with him, so he obviously felt the rub was against us too.
But like you say it didn't really impact the result, it's just an extra frustration.
Few pieces of vision showing Young leaving Cameron to go defend the Cat's attacker with the ball. Question is...where is the other Blue's player? Not running back hard enough/positioning smartly enough in defence.Our game from approx 9min in… they focus on the Cameron/Young match up, also have a bit a a crack at midfield for not working hard enough
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Gotta love Damo and Llordos analysis.
Look how well the Cats defence is set up. 5 Geelong player to 3 Carlton. There was actually 6 Carlton players. H doesn't have anyone with 5m of him, there is another Carlton player directly in front 20m out. Kick it there and they raffle it . Third option was to put it 1m over SDKs head and CC takes mark of the day. Instead Durdin drills it flat, straight to SDK standing flat footed.
Hayes is running down the wing Where do I kick it to? Geelong are back behind the ball. Maybe if he could kick more than 30m with his left and not hard to the boundary it would have been over Duncan (who was 20m in front of him when he kicked it) and to one of the 3 Carlton players running forward
Young can't give Cameron that much room. They had a guy streaming through the middle due to a turnover, one of their small forwards turns Newman inside out and could have run the ball in and they are worried about Young being beaten by Cameron doubling back on a lead.
The issue in all the Young examples was turning the ball over and having numbers out the back (which often happens when you turn it over)
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Dearly remember that kick from Durdin. He wanted to make a quick pass into the 50 - but didn't go back far enough after the initial mark and then felt pressured yet again to dispose quickly. He could've easily done a longer kick off his right if he gave himself an extra 2m after his mark.
Looks like an intentional dangerous tackle by Rohan rolling Stockers head into the turf. Fortunately low impact.
Should be 1 match or at least a fine if it’s rated careless?
Yep.
Just a thought bubble as an extension on this - at his 'peak' I wonder how Liam Jones would have gone instead of Young last night. FWIW I reckon the lack of support would have meant not a lot of difference in the final outcome. Young is raw but still learning but he's not superman. Turnovers killed us.
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Always loved their analysis'.. they pick 2-4 instances where they just make shit up saying "you just cant do that" when its clear there is another reason why it happened.
'Audit' is such a good term. First time out against Freo we were tested and some areas were shown as 'needing improvement' We adjusted and beat Freo 2nd time around quite easily.
It certainly seemed that Cats had done their homework, Geelong gave us a very good indication of what needs to improve and there's quite a few things that were found wanting, - far better to have it confirmed now rather than in September.
Vossy and crew will have a good checklist of things to work on.
If they do it as well as they did after the Freo game, I for one am looking forward to a rematch against Cats.
Several things to tighten up but still not that far away from a win.
One thing as a starting point - stop hitting blokes with white stripes on their jumper on the chest with a kick. If our crew could hit teammates as accurately it could have smashed the game open, turnovers - killing teams since 1896.
Worried about where Stocker should be playing not sure where he fits at the moment.
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Agreed, I don't think he's a back 6 player at AFL level.
Rohan had 5 possies and two tackles. Kicked a behind. He was Geelong’s worst player. I think Stocker did his job.
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yep, he usually gets 9 touches..............
I'm sure most of this has been covered off already but just a few thoughts from the other night.
- We were overwhelmed in the first 5-10 minutes, Cats showed they were much more prepared/experienced for a true top 4 finals like match.
- Settled back into the game OK before they flexed their muscle on us. Stuck big tackles, broke our tackles just enough to get a handball clear/keep the ball going in their favour.
- I thought Stocker looked much more comfortable compared to his earlier outings this season
- TDK is going to be elite
- We were taught a lesson by the best team in it but I'm optimistic we can learn from it quickly.
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Yes. A logical corollary
It pains me to hear some say that the umpires have little influence on the result. Or indeed that it won't matter if "we do what we need." (As obviously it means we need to do more to get the result).
The major issue I have with a particular umpire, (Williamson), is not so much that the free kicks he gives against us are not there. They are free kicks if you look the incidents in isolation. The issue is that he makes decisions as if the incidents exist in isolation, that he has no obligation to interpret the rules in a consistent fashion.
A bias becomes apparent when some incidents resulting in frees given predominantly against one side are adjudicated in manner entirely separate to other incidents.
Call it unconscious, but I believe it is clearly observable in the last three Carlton games he has umpired, (Syd, Tiges and Cats).
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True. But Rohan may have thought that it was a final.
That's a well above average game for Gary in a final.
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Had a look at remaining draw for final five rounds.
Sadly, the loss to Cats probably means we very unlikely to make top four which is what I hoped we could make.
The loss means we now probably have to fight just to even have a first week final in our own state. Fremantle and Sydney have easier draws so this means it is a lot harder now to avoid interstate trips for finals.
I am still buoyant about our potential and ability to improve from here but it not going to be easy with an interstate match against Brisbane still to come even before finals underway. We also play Crows in Adelaide in two weeks but I confident we at least put them away.
In all honesty, to make the top four from here, it probably would take winning our last five rounds matches.
Of course if we do, we hit the finals series with massive belief but realistically I think we are only starting to get a few players back from long lay offs from injury so it a tough ask to expect such improvement in short space of time. Even Weiters found it hard to hit ground running after a month or so off with injury.
We probably more likely to beat Collingwood in final round and then play them again in Elimination Final the next week. I confident we win both but then probably on road interstate to a team like Swans and that in past is where finals from outside top two or four become a hard road for us.
We good enough to beat them but overall I think this is the tough path we facing at moment after the sobering loss to a very in form Cats.
They showed us we not ready for top two or three yet which is where we would have been heading if we had passed that test on weekend.
If we still able to make top four now it means winning all five remaining home and away matches to get above Fremantle, Brisbane and Swans.
If we good enough we will make it and if we actually can, we will have earned it big time.
I look forward to the challenge and thankfully on weekend there were no injuries of note so that is one thing to be thankful for right now.
Sadly, the loss to Cats probably means we very unlikely to make top four which is what I hoped we could make.
The loss means we now probably have to fight just to even have a first week final in our own state. Fremantle and Sydney have easier draws so this means it is a lot harder now to avoid interstate trips for finals.
I am still buoyant about our potential and ability to improve from here but it not going to be easy with an interstate match against Brisbane still to come even before finals underway. We also play Crows in Adelaide in two weeks but I confident we at least put them away.
In all honesty, to make the top four from here, it probably would take winning our last five rounds matches.
Of course if we do, we hit the finals series with massive belief but realistically I think we are only starting to get a few players back from long lay offs from injury so it a tough ask to expect such improvement in short space of time. Even Weiters found it hard to hit ground running after a month or so off with injury.
We probably more likely to beat Collingwood in final round and then play them again in Elimination Final the next week. I confident we win both but then probably on road interstate to a team like Swans and that in past is where finals from outside top two or four become a hard road for us.
We good enough to beat them but overall I think this is the tough path we facing at moment after the sobering loss to a very in form Cats.
They showed us we not ready for top two or three yet which is where we would have been heading if we had passed that test on weekend.
If we still able to make top four now it means winning all five remaining home and away matches to get above Fremantle, Brisbane and Swans.
If we good enough we will make it and if we actually can, we will have earned it big time.
I look forward to the challenge and thankfully on weekend there were no injuries of note so that is one thing to be thankful for right now.