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The Europeans rewrite their principles to suit themselves & expect the rest of the world to follow.
It's not like our lobbyists didn't stuff our commitments by diddling with the calculating figures. Patting ourselves on the back for not clearing land which was never going to be cleared. Can't exactly point the finger, can we?
Hmm.
China has a higher percentage of renewables in it's electricity generation mix than we do, and is going to push 200 giga watts of added solar and wind power just this year.
On the global list of green energy countries , they generally sit right next to us.
What would they need to do in your view, to justify us doing more.
Or is China just your favourite "but look over there" argument.
Here is a philosophical thought. If you believe in honesty, do you try to be as honest as you can, or do use the existence of dishonest people elsewhere to justify lying? If this is so, do you really believe in honesty or are you just farting in the wind.
How about we decide if renewables is the way to go for us, then do what we can do, and not keep using China as a reason to do less. Especially considering in many respects, it's already doing more than we are.
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They have 3 times as much hydro as us. In Australia there seems to be a massive number of people against it.
We need to do much more but you should stop reading CCP propaganda as organisations like Greenpeace are increasing calling out the CCPs climate lies and exposing their massive coal expansion.
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You raising 'look over there' .... I'm pointing out the dishonest use of %s when we all know the numbers are rubbery (being kind).
Climate catastrophe, when ? .... +/- the number you first thought of, or Jatz, the number someone has led you to believe.
I'm not against renewables. I am against the half truths around the discussion.
See your use of 'electricity generation mix' as if that is relevant when Australia is despatching coal from our mix & gas if The Greens have their way in the immediate future.
I'm against mindless demolition of closing power stations, not against closing power stations because they are no longer economically viable. To ignore the lessons of Europe/Britain would be unforgivable.
We all know Palau has the highest emissions per head & that if they evacuated their island nation it would make zero difference to global warming. Misuse of numbers to take advantage of the naive & uncommitted.
Come clean.
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Do you support all of Greenpeace's calls, or do you pick and choose the ones that suit?
Do you think for yourself ?
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Yes. I'd suggest you try it some time, if it weren't for all those unintelligible posts that you often produce.
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For example?
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Corporations are playing silly games as well.
I know of an automotive supplier in the USA which has been told by BMW that they need to be fully renewable to quote on future business.
a) There is only one electricity supplier where the factory is located.
b) Nuclear is not considered renewable by BMW's special ethics.
c) They can purchase carbon free electricity, but there is no such thing as buying " renewable without nuclear " from the supplier who have a lot of nuclear plants.
The punchline. The BMW factory they would like to supply is located in the same area, with the same electricity supplier.
So the BMW plant down the road is now being supplied out of Mexico, where they use carbon credit certificates as toilet paper.
BP exploited Mexican communities hoping to benefit from carbon credits: report
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Not the shrewdest of men.
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They are not mutually exclusive though.
I mean, on the bullshit index Australia sits pretty high up there. Are China's lies worse than Australia's have been?
China has a lot of hydro, that's not China lying, they actually have a lot of hydro. It may not be all very smart hydro, but they have it.
China is trying to gild the lilly, but their energy needs are huge, so they still have a lot of coal, and more coming on stream, but this doesn't change the fact, without their renewables, they would be using way more coal than they are.
The rate renewables are coming on line is also rising, so their is the prospect of future coal flattening and then contracting.
But this argument misses the point again. If Australia has decided renewables are the way to go, why do China's lies matter to that decision?
China lying matters to climate change and global targets, but should it matter to our decisions.
And if China stops lying and starts doing more, does Russia then become the it boy? But what about Russia. But what about Indonesia, but what about.
Does every country have to go all in, and tell the truth before it's OK for us to do it.?
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Name a power station closed for mindless reasons?
What is a mindless reason?
From what I am seeing, government policy over the last few years was to keep them open for mindless reasons, not close them.
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Oh that is magnificent. What a great start to the day to see that!
No I don't but they are a bit more believable than Xi the dictator especially when they are just one of many calling out the CCPs climate hypocrisy and lies.
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Not really irrelevant when you talked the CCP up in comparison.
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I haven’t talked up the CCP.
But I do think it’s hypocritical for Australia to call them climate liars.
See what I said, not what you want me to have said:
'I'm against mindless demolition of closing power stations, not against closing power stations because they are no longer economically viable.'
You are against mindless demolition of power stations.
Has this happened, or is this a theoretical opposition?
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