Crikey dares Murdoch to sue them for defamation.

[Tyberious Funk]

I suspect Crikey are probably as keen on the discovery part of this case as they on obtaining the desired outcome.

It's a noble idea, but I'm not sure what it achieves. If you look at the phone hacking scandal in the UK, the Murdoch's were completely disgraced and it amounted to nothing in the end. For them, at least. Low-level flunkies were arrested, but for the Murdoch's themselves? Yep, they suffered reputational damage, but not much more. Murdoch is still worth some $20b.

 

[Kwality]

I suspect Crikey are probably as keen on the discovery part of this case as they on obtaining the desired outcome.

do tell ... what do they expect to find.

Its Lachlan taking the action, not Rupert, not one of the Murdoch companies.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Crikey in legal battle with Lachlan Murdoch
Amanda Meade
From todays Guardian 40 mins ago

'Crikey is using a legal threat from Lachlan Murdoch to drive subscriptions, a statement of claim lodged by the co-chairman of News Corporation alleges.

The lawsuit was filed in the federal court late on Tuesday, a day after Crikey bought a full-page ad in the New York Times inviting Murdoch to sue them over the alleged defamation.

The writ alleges that after receiving a concerns notice from Murdoch someone from Crikey’s publisher, Private Media, contacted the Sydney Morning Herald “seeking to publicise that Murdoch had complained about its content”.

The claim says:

Private Media has continued to use the SMH article and their (false) allegations about Murdoch intimidating them, to promote the article and the Crikey website in order to increase its number of subscribers for financial gain.'

Murdoch trying to paint Crikey as money grabbers, hilarious

 

[Taylor]

Murdoch trying to paint Crikey as money grabbers, hilarious

It is how non MSM options get marginalized currently, to suggest they are grifting or profiting. Using their publicity to raise money.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

do tell ... what do they expect to find.

Its Lachlan taking the action, not Rupert, not one of the Murdoch companies.

That Fox reporters like Hannity worked for Trump in deciding policy for example.

 

[Kwality]

Crikey in legal battle with Lachlan Murdoch
Amanda Meade
From todays Guardian 40 mins ago

'Crikey is using a legal threat from Lachlan Murdoch to drive subscriptions, a statement of claim lodged by the co-chairman of News Corporation alleges.

The lawsuit was filed in the federal court late on Tuesday, a day after Crikey bought a full-page ad in the New York Times inviting Murdoch to sue them over the alleged defamation.

The writ alleges that after receiving a concerns notice from Murdoch someone from Crikey’s publisher, Private Media, contacted the Sydney Morning Herald “seeking to publicise that Murdoch had complained about its content”.

The claim says:

Private Media has continued to use the SMH article and their (false) allegations about Murdoch intimidating them, to promote the article and the Crikey website in order to increase its number of subscribers for financial gain.'

Murdoch trying to paint Crikey as money grabbers, hilarious

Is that what The Guardian told you?
Or are they simply paying the piper, yes Mr Turnbull ...

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Is that what The Guardian told you?
Or are they simply paying the piper, yes Mr Turnbull ...

'Washington(CNN)Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Fox's Sean Hannity exchanged more than 80 text messages between Election Day 2020 and Joe Biden's January 2021 inauguration, communications that show Hannity's evolution from staunch supporter of former President Donald Trump's election lies to being "fed up" with the "lunatics" hurting Trump's cause in the days before January 6.

CNN obtained Meadows' 2,319 text messages, which he selectively provided in December to the House committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. While the logs show Meadows communicating with multiple Fox personalities, as well as a number of journalists from other organizations, Hannity stands out with 82 messages. The texts, including dozens of newly disclosed messages, offer a real-time window into how Hannity, a close friend of Trump, was reacting to the election and its aftermath.'

How about this?

Throughout the logs, Hannity both gives advice and asks for direction, blurring the lines between his Fox show, his radio show and the Trump White House.

Wake up mate

 

[Kwality]

That Fox reporters like Hannity worked for Trump in deciding policy for example.

How is that even slightly up to Lachlan ?

See Lachlan Murdoch sues Crikey for defamation over article about January 6 riots
'It alleges the article contained more than a dozen defamatory imputations, including that Mr Murdoch "illegally conspired" with Mr Trump to overturn the 2020 election result and to incite an armed mob to march on the Capitol.'

 

[Kwality]

'Washington(CNN)Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Fox's Sean Hannity exchanged more than 80 text messages between Election Day 2020 and Joe Biden's January 2021 inauguration, communications that show Hannity's evolution from staunch supporter of former President Donald Trump's election lies to being "fed up" with the "lunatics" hurting Trump's cause in the days before January 6.

CNN obtained Meadows' 2,319 text messages, which he selectively provided in December to the House committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. While the logs show Meadows communicating with multiple Fox personalities, as well as a number of journalists from other organizations, Hannity stands out with 82 messages. The texts, including dozens of newly disclosed messages, offer a real-time window into how Hannity, a close friend of Trump, was reacting to the election and its aftermath.'

How about this?

Throughout the logs, Hannity both gives advice and asks for direction, blurring the lines between his Fox show, his radio show and the Trump White House.

Wake up mate

What did Lachlan do - he is the person taking the action not any of the people/parties you mention above.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

How is that even slightly up to Lachlan ?

See Lachlan Murdoch sues Crikey for defamation over article about January 6 riots
'It alleges the article contained more than a dozen defamatory imputations, including that Mr Murdoch "illegally conspired" with Mr Trump to overturn the 2020 election result and to incite an armed mob to march on the Capitol.'

It's his news network. He gives the direction. You can't ignore the fact that Fox has a direct line to Trump .
Wake up sleepy head.

 

[Kwality]

'Washington(CNN)Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows and Fox's Sean Hannity exchanged more than 80 text messages between Election Day 2020 and Joe Biden's January 2021 inauguration, communications that show Hannity's evolution from staunch supporter of former President Donald Trump's election lies to being "fed up" with the "lunatics" hurting Trump's cause in the days before January 6.

CNN obtained Meadows' 2,319 text messages, which he selectively provided in December to the House committee investigating the January 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. While the logs show Meadows communicating with multiple Fox personalities, as well as a number of journalists from other organizations, Hannity stands out with 82 messages. The texts, including dozens of newly disclosed messages, offer a real-time window into how Hannity, a close friend of Trump, was reacting to the election and its aftermath.'

How about this?

Throughout the logs, Hannity both gives advice and asks for direction, blurring the lines between his Fox show, his radio show and the Trump White House.

Wake up mate

You are at the wrong game Ari. These people arent playing here.

 

[Taylor]

The best case here would be for Crikey to expose big media's collusion to influence elections towards results that benefit them. I don't think it would be an own goal either because if you're against big established control you are against it no matter what colour tie it's pretending to wear.

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election

For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions

time.com

People need to be more aware of big corporations absolute control over the levers of power and feeding information to the people.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

You are at the wrong game Ari. These people arent playing here.

Fox News hosts were more influential in the White House than previously known, often acting as shadow advisors to the president in private phone calls. According to a Washington Post report, former President Donald Trump would frequently speak with Fox anchors like Sean Hannity or Judge Jeanine Pirro, who had a direct phone number to reach him in the White House residence, and then pass their recommendations on to his staff.

“There were times the president would come down the next morning and say, ‘Well, Sean thinks we should do this,’ or, ‘Judge Jeanine thinks we should do this,’ ” Grisham, who resigned after the Jan. 6 insurrection, told the paper. These suggestions from Fox personalities, she said, would often frustrate staff as the hosts shared their thoughts on topics ranging from White House personnel to how to frame the president’s message. Trump would even dial Hannity and former Fox Business host Lou Dobbs into Oval Office staff meetings, a former administration official told The Post. Grisham also recently revealed that on Jan. 6, Trump was “gleefully” watching the violence unfold on television.

 

[Kwality]

It's his news network. He gives the direction. You can't ignore the fact that Fox has a direct line to Trump .
Wake up sleepy head.

So Crikey will prove Lachlan rang Trump - pull the other leg.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

So Crikey will prove Lachlan rang Trump - pull the other leg.

Lachlan is a racist climate denying peice of s**t who pays scumbags like Hannity and Tucker Carlson millions of $ every year to spead crap.
Everyone knows that, even Lachlan's brother who left newscorp.

 

[QuietB]

Will the Murdochs roll this defence out again?

"A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit against Fox News after lawyers for the network argued that no "reasonable viewer" takes the primetime host Tucker Carlson seriously, a new court filing said."

The whole stop the steal was just a gag your honour, we did not expect anyone to take it seriously. And Crikey are defaming us by saying that we meant it

 

[Gethelred]

It does look like Crikey are about to sacrifice themselves on the altar to try and have some mud stick to the big corp.

I don't know. You don't pen that open letter if you think you're going to get done.

 

[Tyberious Funk]

How is that even slightly up to Lachlan ?

See Lachlan Murdoch sues Crikey for defamation over article about January 6 riots
'It alleges the article contained more than a dozen defamatory imputations, including that Mr Murdoch "illegally conspired" with Mr Trump to overturn the 2020 election result and to incite an armed mob to march on the Capitol.'

I think you are missing the point. Crikey's defence is that they didn't claim Murdoch "illegally conspired" to overturn the 2020 election. In fact, they didn't even mention Lachlan Murdoch at all. They simply referred to "Murdoch", which is usually understood to refer to Rupert. I suspect that one of the first things Lachlan's lawyers will need to establish is that the mononym "Murdoch" is actually a reference to their client.

IANAL, but I can't see how they have a legal leg to stand on. Which is basically Crikey's point... they are being bullied, without any real grounds behind it.

 

[Taylor]

I don't know. You don't pen that open letter if you think you're going to get done.

You might if you were quietly on the edge of the cliff already and wanted to make one last big show.

If you stand to gain financial support from taking a stand when you don't have anything to lose you could be quiet confident.

 

[Gethelred]

So Crikey will prove Lachlan rang Trump - pull the other leg.

How about - just between you and me - we wait and see specifically what Crikey has to say to defend themselves before prepping our ridicule, eh?

 

[Maggie5]

I asked who funds it

Who cares what YOU asked it was your response to an entirely different post which was what my post was about.

Seriously you really need to spend less time defending the Murdochs and reading posts you are replying to more carefully.

 

[kalex6251]

wonder if information found in the voting machine companies lawsuit against newscorp (dominion was one of them from memory) will form part of this defamation case ..... is that information even admissible under australian law?

[edit] interesting article - of note is the following:

"Dominion sued Fox Corporation and Fox Broadcasting in November 2021, alleging top Fox executives—namely the Murdochs—“exerted direct control over Fox News’ programming decisions” in the aftermath of the 2020 election and thus were responsible for the network’s false fraud claims involving Dominion machines.

Davis ruled Dominion had adequately alleged defamation well enough for the case to move forward, finding there’s a “reasonable inference” that Fox Corporation “participated in the creation and publication of Fox News’ defamatory statements” and helped “cause” the alleged defamation.

The judge also ruled there’s a “reasonable inference” that Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch specifically knew the fraud claims about Dominion were false but pushed them anyway—which would be “actual malice” that could constitute defamation—citing reporting suggesting Rupert Murdoch did not believe the fraud claims and pieces in other Murdoch-owned newspapers that condemned President Donald Trump’s fraud allegations."

Dominion’s Defamation Lawsuit Against Fox — Including Murdochs — Over 2020 Election Can Move Forward, Judge Rules

The judge ruled there’s a “reasonable inference” that Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch pushed false election claims on Fox News despite knowing they were false.

www.forbes.com

not sure boywonder has properly thought this through ..... this may end up being a bigger disaster than the one.tel failure

 

[Taylor]

wonder if information found in the voting machine companies lawsuit against newscorp (dominion was one of them from memory) will form part of this defamation case ..... is that information even admissible under australian law?

Are defamation cases allowed to leak out into the public in Australia? You can have evidence introduced, objected, and struck but it's still able to be written in the article for the events of the day.

It arguably would drive content and traffic.

 

[Gough]

Attacking someone for clicks, sounds like the Murdochs are shitty someone is aping their business plan.

 

[Kwality]

wonder if information found in the voting machine companies lawsuit against newscorp (dominion was one of them from memory) will form part of this defamation case ..... is that information even admissible under australian law?

[edit] interesting article - of note is the following:

"Dominion sued Fox Corporation and Fox Broadcasting in November 2021, alleging top Fox executives—namely the Murdochs—“exerted direct control over Fox News’ programming decisions” in the aftermath of the 2020 election and thus were responsible for the network’s false fraud claims involving Dominion machines.

Davis ruled Dominion had adequately alleged defamation well enough for the case to move forward, finding there’s a “reasonable inference” that Fox Corporation “participated in the creation and publication of Fox News’ defamatory statements” and helped “cause” the alleged defamation.

The judge also ruled there’s a “reasonable inference” that Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch specifically knew the fraud claims about Dominion were false but pushed them anyway—which would be “actual malice” that could constitute defamation—citing reporting suggesting Rupert Murdoch did not believe the fraud claims and pieces in other Murdoch-owned newspapers that condemned President Donald Trump’s fraud allegations."

Dominion’s Defamation Lawsuit Against Fox — Including Murdochs — Over 2020 Election Can Move Forward, Judge Rules

The judge ruled there’s a “reasonable inference” that Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch pushed false election claims on Fox News despite knowing they were false.

www.forbes.com

not sure boywonder has properly thought this through ..... this may end up being a bigger disaster than the one.tel failure

John Churchill as boywonder?