Sttew
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Still fairly disingenuous of you to say it's a week season and Cats are not better than previous years. Seriously ask yourself what more could Cats have done except not lose the four games early in the season?
Have Geelong Improved? Or has the Rest of the Comp Gone Backwards?
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This Cats version is not as good as 2008 but they still good enough to take the title out this year.
It certainly will not be some walk over like when you destroyed Port Power in 2007.
I think the margin be around 5 goals your way but maybe only won in last quarter.
I think Jeremy Cameron will be the match winner.
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I think the best and least possible result would be Gary Rohan - Norm Smith
It's good you've thrown this question out to a community that watch a lot of football if you can't see the inherent improvement to the Geelong side with the emergence of SDK, Holmes and Atkins; the addition of Stengle; the change in game plan; and JC stepping up to be one of the best impact players in the competition.
I, for one, look forward to your thread next season questioning whether one of the Grand Finalists has improved or if just every other team went backwards.
I, for one, look forward to your thread next season questioning whether one of the Grand Finalists has improved or if just every other team went backwards.
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"Geelong haven't improved at all. They're the same" ???
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Yes. You grasp that part.
But you're somehow interpreting it as a knock on Geelong. It's not at all.
Did the dees win by 120+ last year? I forgot....
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My view is that none of that would amount to anything if the opposition was good this year. But they're not.
The standard of the comp in terms of there being any great teams, is very low compared to most years.
Geelong are the only really good team in the entire comp. They've been a really good team for about 5 years. The problem has been that there have been great teams that have beaten them.
There are no great teams this year.
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With all the crap being posted about Geelong by others (alleged salary cap rorting; "cheat ground", Chris Scott is an average coach, etc) can you understand how your post comes across? You may not have meant your post to come across as a knock but it has, like Cats are doing a Steven Bradbury.
Now I can see you back pedalling, which you should have done in the first place. Lazy posting, IMO
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To be fair, they did fall over the line by 1 point or whatever to Collingwood in the finals this year.
That's because the opposition is poor. Not because Hawkins and Cameron are magically better players what they used to be. It's because the opposition is inferior to what it's been in previous years.
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Melbourne last year. Richmond prior. West Coast were a standout.
Bulldogs scored a very weak year.
Generally speaking, there's a standout team or two, and some really good teams at the next tier.
This year, the standout teams don't exist, and there's only 1 really good team. The rest are good teams and/or up and coming teams. Weirdly, this year these are the teams that have made up the top 6!
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That's just childish nonsense.
I stated from the first page of this thread that this is not a knock on Geelong.
It's a knock on the lazy media, and the ignorant footy public.
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I think Geelong are a better team because of quicker ball movement more than personnel
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i think Geelong have quicker ball movement because we now have the personnel to make it work...
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Isn’t Geelong the standout team if they win the flag? Would be 16 on the trot and only 4 losses for the year.
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74. And beat you guys by 80 in the prelim
Sure teams have dropped off marginally for varying reasons through injury, poorer form/game plan, suspensions, etc, happens EVERY YEAR but to say that Geelong hasn't improved suggests you are either trolling or you know jack-s**t about the Geelong Footy Club or it's players because this is seriously the dumbest or most ignorant & arrogant comment I've ever read on Big Footy in regards to the Geelong FC. Come Saturdays Grand Final, win, lose or draw, the 2022 Geelong Football team is the best Geelong side since 2011 by some margin and every astute Geelong supporter who watches every moment of play throughout the season knows this with also many intelligent footy people on this thread who have not trolled explaining in detail the reasons why, so perhaps you might learn something 'from your own thread' without a bias or a dumb-arse viewpoint. But we are also playing a brilliant young side in the Sydney Swans who have won 9 games straight, with Geelong winning 15 straight, so I pose the question when was the last Grand Final when the Grand Finalists had won 15 & 9 straight games collectively between them leading into the Grand Final, I'd suggest you'd have to go a long way back in the history books to do so.
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Yes nothing is better.
Cameron isn’t fitter.
We don’t have a small forward who’s kicked nearly 50 goals.
Blicavs hasn’t played a different role.
Selwood and Dangerfield haven’t played less minutes.
Sam De Koning hasn’t been brought into the best 22
Max Holmes hasn’t either
Brad Close hasn’t improved
Neither has Gryan Miers
Tom Atkins hasn’t been shifted into the midfield
Mitch Duncan hasn’t been shifted to half-back.
None of these things have happened - it’s just how things have been made to appear by the other 17 teams.
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