The rankings (from best to worst) of the 126 VFL-AFL premiership teams

Remove this Banner Ad

Dan26

Brownlow Medallist
Jan 23, 2000
25,043
20,052
Werribee
AFL Club
Essendon
Other Teams
post count: 38,986
This exercise is now in its 21st consecutive year. More than two decades! Some on here weren't born when this first started.

Time to see where the latest premiership team fits in to the list. I use my own knowledge from the time of have spent watching football combined with anecdotal, statistical, and written accounts from the early years to rank the 123 premiership teams. I use relativity, taking into account the standard of the competition at the time, so as to not disadvantage teams from the past who were not competing in a national competition, with the resources and professionalism of modern day clubs.

Geelong won the 2022 premiership. Their 10th premiership. They had

  • a 21-4 season.
  • a percentage from 25 games of 149.1%
  • Three finals victories by 6, 71 and 81 points for a percentage during the finals of a 191% (Melbourne's last year was 213% for comparison)
  • 1st on the ladder at end of H&A season
  • The best attack (when finals are included)
  • The best defence (when finals are included)

This team reinvented itself in the off-season, partly personnel, but equally so tactical. Criticized for moving the ball too slowly, Geelong of 2022 adopted a more attacking game, which played to the strengths of their talented list. The most experienced team to ever take the field, the Cats had two power forwards who both kicked over 60 goals, a reinvented small goalkicker in Stengle, a team defence spearheaded by Tom Stewart, that doesn't just rely on their back 6. They are also versatile with many players able to play multiple positions when required. Mark Blicavs being a perfect example. The Cats of 2022 were just physically bigger, physically stronger, dependable, and disciplined. Led by a great captain, and all of it fostered by a strong culture of success.

Their 4 losses were:

1. vs Sydney by 30, (Geelong had 5 more scoring shots)
2. vs Hawthorn by 12 (Geelong had 3 more scoring shots)
3. vs Fremantle by 3 (the only match from all 25, where the opposition had more scoring shots)
4. vs St.Kilda by 10 (25 scoring shots each)


I have ranked them at number 21. A Qualifying Final win by a bigger margin (which would have given them 3 emphatic finals victories instead of 2) would have pushed them a couple of spots higher, but that is no knock on them.



1.) Essendon 2000. This team earnt the right to be called the greatest in VFL-AFL history with a 24-1 record, a percentage of 163.9 from 25 games, winning three finals by an equal-record combined 230 points with margins of 125, 45 and 60 and a percentage versus the finalists of 160% - 20% higher than any other team in the modern era has managed. At no stage did they look like losing, with even their one loss being narrow, after having 27 more inside 50's, with the Bulldogs having to tactically change the way the sport was played. The Essendon team of 2000 did everything that you could ask, in order for them to be called the best ever. As close to being unbeatable as a team has ever been in VFL-AFL history, with the closest challenge being.....

2.) Collingwood 1929. This team went 19-1 over 20 matches with a percentage of 159.5. They had champions on every line, and were regarded as the greatest combination to have played to that point. The ONLY team to ever be unbeaten in the H&A season. Collingwood fans may label them the best ever VFL-AFL side – I put them at number 2 out of 124. A 62 point loss to Richmond in the finals costs them the number one position on my list. Gordon Coventry was the first to person to kick 100 goals (124) and the Pies completed the treble with Albert Collier winning the Brownlow.

3.) Melbourne 1956. The Dees were at their zenith this year with an 18-2 record and a percentage of 149.4%. Coached by the VFL-AFL coach of the century, Norm Smith and with champion players such as Barassi, Adams, Cordner and Beckwith leading the way, the 1956 Melbourne side was their best side in the most dominant era by one club in VFL-AFL history. A side that could turn it on at will. Many old-timers suggest this was the type of team who could have gone undefeated if they really wanted to.

4.) Hawthorn 1989. The Hawthorn side of ’89 was their best in one of the most powerful eras in history. The Hawks reached their zenith in ’89. They went 21-3, with a percentage of 149.5, had champions everywhere and at their best, were simply unstoppable. I rate them the 4th best of 126 premierships sides. However, unlike Essendon of 2000, or Collingwood of 1929, they didn’t quite have the aura of being totally invincible. Their loss to the Bears holds them back a spot.

5.) Essendon 1950. Tempted to put them higher, but number 5 is fair enough. Here was a team that was near invincible. Just look at their record: 19-1, with a percentage of 159.2. With Coleman at his peak, Dick Reynolds and Hutchison lurking, this was the best Essendon side in their golden era. At the time, many rated this side alongside the 1929 Magpies team as the best of all time.

6.) Geelong 2007. A fantastically dominant team in '07, winning the Grand Final be a record margin, having a percentage for the year over 160% from 25 games. Only great teams can do that. A team, who used skillful, attacking "corridor" midfield play, complimented with a group of players in the mid 20's who have played over 100 games giving them the perfect mix of youth and experience. 21-4, a percentage over 160% and three finals wins by a total of 230 points.

7.) Geelong 2011 A dominant team who didn't have any flat-spots finishing 22-3 with a percentage of 157%. The second oldest premiership side in history meant a wealth of mature bodies and experience. 3 easy finals wins, and a tough defence. More of a long kicking game plan with a defensive edge to it than the flags sides of 2007 and 2009, but perhaps a little less dominant overall than the 2007 side which is ranked one spot higher

8.) Carlton 1908. Carlton’s first golden era produced three great sides, the best of which was the 1908 side. Jack Worrall became the first ever coach, and propelled the Blues to 19-1, with a percentage of 173.7%. Old timers still hold this side as the greatest, and if modern coaching techniques were applied, no doubt they would still be hard to beat in the present day.

9.) Melbourne 1955. Marginally behind the 1956 side, this Melbourne side went 17-3 with a percentage of 150.3%, and showed the makings of a team that would continue to dominate for years to come. The 1955 Melbourne side was heralded as one of the all time greats. A great even spread of talent with no reliance on individuals - a hallmark of the Melbourne teams of this era

10.) Hawthorn 1988. Only behind their ‘89 team due to their inferior defence which conceded 200 points more than the ’89 model. This great team was ruthless, skilled and efficient, and amassed a 21-3 record. Many believe they peaked in ’88, but I believe the Hawks reached their absolute zenith in 1989. Deserve their ranking as the 9th best out of 124.

11.) Collingwood 1927. After losing the Grand Final in 1925 and 1926, this side was ready to peak. They amassed a 17-3 record, with many superstars, proving they could be a champion team and a team of champions. With Coventry kicking 97 goals, and his brother winning the Brownlow, the 1927 side featured the Magpies greats close to their best.

12.) Geelong 1952. Although other teams have amassed superior records, this Geelong side was still one of the greatest in history. They won the premiership in the middle of an unbeaten run that would stretch to 26 consecutive games into the following season, and their attacking, free-flowing style of play became a Geelong tradition. Their 18-2-1 record (140.2%) was a testament to their greatness. Geelong’s best ever side until 2007.

13.) Carlton 1995. This great side had it all - experience, hardness, skill, and a willingness to win. Amassing a 23-2 record with a percentage of 140.6% they played with a professionalism that no club had previously matched. Incredibly, did not lose to a finalist all year. They didn’t quite have the same aura of invincibility as some of the sides in the top 10, but their almost unbeatable record alone ensures them a high ranking.

14.) Carlton 1979. With a 21-3 record and a percentage of 138.9%, and three narrow, spaced losses, this team didn’t have any obvious weaknesses. They nearly blew it in the Grand Final, but their performances through the year were worthy of one of the all time great sides. A rampant mosquito fleet, with a bevy of big name stars all over the field.

15.) Essendon 1985. Sheedy's team peaked to such an extent that they blew away the opposition with a 21-3 record, and were hailed as one of the great sides of all time. With no apparent weaknesses, a top ruckman, onballers, options everywhere in attack, and a solid defence, this side ranks as one of the greats. Their three losses were all substantial which takes a little away from them, but I still rate them at number 15 out of 124.

16.) Collingwood 1928 Slightly behind their 1929, and 1927 sides the '28 side was one of the greats but perhaps not that far ahead of the other contenders that year. Finished with a 17-3-1 record, and a percentage of 132.5%. Right smack-bang in the middle of the Magpies most famous era. Won the Grand Final by 33 points. Gordon Coventry kicked 89 goals.

17.) Melbourne 1960 This Melbourne side amassed a 16-4 record but with the players at their disposal, that record arguably didn’t do them justice. This was a side that could have easily gone through the season losing only one or two games. In their 7th consecutive Grand Final, they kept Collingwood to only 2.2.14.

18.) Essendon 1911 Under the guidance of the first super-coach, Jack Worrall, who previously led the Blues to three consecutive premierships, the Same Old's as they were known at the time amassed a 17-2-1 record with a percentage (including finals) of 173.3%! The two losses were by 3 and 8 points. Unlucky not to be higher.

19.) Melbourne 1959 Another Demons super-side from their golden era. Not talked about in the same breath as 1955, 56, but this side, along with 1960, were at roughly the same level. The team has a 15-4-1 record from 20 games, winning two finals by 44 and 37 points

20.) Carlton 1907 A great side that would become even better one year later. This side topped the ladder with a percentage of 155.7%. Coached by the first VFL coach, the great Jack Worrall, the Carlton 2007 side was one of the greats.

21.) Geelong 2022. Written off as too old too slow, the 2022 Cats bounced back with the best attack, best defence a percentage of 149%, and a thumping grand Final victory. Bigger, stronger, more versatile, consistent with no obvious weaknesses.

22.) Hawthorn 1986 Just when it seemed the era was coming to and end in 1985, the experienced ruthless Hawks bounced back in 1986 to finish minor-premiers with 18 wins, and crushed Carlton by 42 points in the Grand Final. The difference between a young Jason Dunstall kicking 77 goals from 22 games in 1986, compared to his 132 in 1988 and 138 in 1989, is essentially the difference between the rankings of where those teams sit compared to this one.
________________________________________________________
23. Essendon 1962
24. Geelong 1937
25. Fitzroy 1913
26. Fitzroy 1899
27. South Melbourne 1933
28. Collingwood 2010
29. Hawthorn 2015
30. Melbourne 2021
31. Essendon 1901
32. Geelong 1925
33. Port Adelaide 2004
34. West Coast 1992
35. Richmond 1974
36. Hawthorn 1971
37. Fitzroy 1898
38. Carlton 1906
39. Collingwood 1902
40. South Melbourne 1909
41. South Melbourne 1918
42. Essendon 1984
43. Richmond 1967
44. West Coast 1994
45. North Melbourne 1996
46. Hawthorn 2013
47. Geelong 2009
48. Brisbane 2002
49. Richmond 1932
50. Collingwood 1930
51. Hawthorn 2014
52. Melbourne 1957
53. Melbourne 1964
54. Essendon 1946
55. Geelong 1951
56. Collingwood 1936
57. Geelong 1931
58. Collingwood 1903
59. Carlton 1914
60. Collingwood 1919
61. Carlton 1915
62. Hawthorn 2008
63. Brisbane 2001
64. Richmond 1980
65. Carlton 1981
66. Carlton 1972
67. Essendon 1949
68. Carlton 1982
69. Geelong 1963
70. Hawthorn 1961
71. Hawthorn 1983
72. Carlton 1987
73. Richmond 1934
74. Brisbane 2003
75. Richmond 2020
76. Richmond 1969
77. Melbourne 1939
78. St.Kilda 1966
79. Collingwood 1953
80. Carlton 1968
81. Hawthorn 1991
82. Sydney 2012
83. Richmond 2017
84. Carlton 1947
85. Richmond 2019
86. Richmond 1920
87. Essendon 1923
88. West Coast 2018
89. Essendon 1942
90. Melbourne 1926
91. Richmond 1973
92. Essendon 1965
93. West Coast 2006
94. Melbourne 1941
95. Fitzroy 1905
96. Fitzroy 1944
97. Carlton 1970
98. Carlton 1938
99. Richmond 1943
100. Collingwood 1935
101. Collingwood 1990
102. Collingwood 1958
103. Essendon 1924
104. Melbourne 1940
105. Hawthorn 1978
106. North Melbourne 1975
107. Hawthorn 1976
108. Western Bulldogs 2016
109. North Melbourne 1977
110. Essendon 1993
111. Collingwood 1910
112. Essendon 1897
113. Adelaide 1998
114. Fitzroy 1904
115. Fitzroy 1922
116. Adelaide 1997 (like any flag side they were good, but there were many better)
117. Sydney 2005 (workmanlike, needed everything to go right)
118. Essendon 1912 (stole it off South Melbourne)
119. Melbourne 1948 (stole if off Essendon)
120. Carlton 1945 (percentage of only 106% and came from 4th, as war ended.)
121. Footscray 1954 (a modest win-loss record in a very even year)
122. Kangaroos 1999 (Worst defence of the top-10 teams. Percentage of 115%)
123. Richmond 1921 (stole it off Carlton)
124. Collingwood 1917 (war years)
125. Melbourne 1900 (came from 6th and helped by finals system)
126. Fitzroy 1916 (war years. Won wooden spoon and flag)
 
The average rankings for all the clubs premierships. I.e if you add the ranking positions for all Geelong's 10 premierships, then divide by 10 gives you 32.39.

1. Port Adelaide - average 32.00
2. Geelong - average 32.39
3. Hawthorn - average 52.53
4. Carlton - average 59.43
5. Essendon - average 59.68
6. Melbourne - average 60.23
7. Syd/Sth.Melb - average 60.40
8. Brisbane - average 60.66
9. Collingwood - average 61.66
10. West Coast - average 63.75
11. Richmond - average 74.53
12. Fitzroy - average 78.25
13. St.Kilda - average 78.00
14. Nth.Melb - average 95.0
15. Adelaide - average 114.5
16. West.Bulldogs - average 114.5
 

Log in to remove this ad.

Bit generous. Extremely deserving premier but they played 17th and 18th twice, highest ranked double up opponent was the team that snuck into 8th, and played second at home. Finals v 3rd, 4th and 6th. No doubt the draw influenced their level of dominance - while they were undoubtedly still the best side in it.

No way I’d put them ahead of Hawthorn 2015 or Melbourne 2021 - or even Geelong 2009.

Out of curiosity, where would you rank Geelong 2008 if they’d won the flag?
 
Oh no not this again.

It's a yearly exercise just to put '00 Essendon on top, even though several premiership sides would smash them.
Best team I remember seeing - apart from perhaps Geelong 2008 but we all know what happened there.

Trying to do what many say one shouldn't - comparing eras - but it's always an interesting read and interesting to see what people think.

The numbers suggest a very good Geelong side - and we didn't really have any dud players. I am still struggling with the idea that we don't get the same star-studded line ups we used to get ten to twenty years ago. (Melbourne midfield maybe?) That makes me inherently value the premiers over the last decade or so just a bit lower. Probably unfairly - 18 teams now to spread the talent around.
 
Oh no not this again.

It's a yearly exercise just to put '00 Essendon on top, even though several premiership sides would smash them.

bacon buster posted a good link to a site that ranks not just the premiers, but every team who has ever played the game.

( AFL Team Annual Summary )

It's eerily similar to my list.

Maybe you could send a strongly worded email to the site owners telling them how wrong they are.
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

Probably a fair position, my only query is where it fits in comparison to other sides that have had unbeaten runs in the second half of the year. Brisbane 2001 for example is much lower, although they had a slower start to that season.
 
carl had three goes that season. Magnificent.
Our season was over when Kouta did his knee in Round 20, thanks to Jason Johnson in a rucking contest. Other than a full-strength Carlton with a fit and firing Kouta, you really had no competition that year.

Brisbane '01-'03 would've handily accounted for that Essendon side.

This team did not beat Carlton in '99 nor did they beat Brisbane in '01. Will take the hattrick premiers of Brissy and Hawthorn over your lot any day of the week.

And let's not forget that this is a very similar Essendon team who lost to Carlton twice in '01, and tanked their final game in Round 22 so they wouldn't face Carlton in a top 4 QF.
 
Oh no not this again.

It's a yearly exercise just to put '00 Essendon on top, even though several premiership sides would smash them.

Yeah. Oh no not this again. People sooking over someone's opinion. Get over it.
 
Yeah. Oh no not this again. People sooking over someone's opinion. Get over it.
Nothing to get over matey.

This is clearly a "Essendon 2000 is da bestest team eva" thread. Like it has been for the past many years.

If the OP's criteria is winning % and % overall, then why isn't Carlton's 1908 team on top with the same winning percentage and superior percentage of 173.7%? And don't say "it's because they're not a relatively modern team" because they're higher than many modern premiership teams who'd all easily account for them.

Also, the way these threads have been worded over the years, it isn't being treated as opinion. It's being treated as objective fact.
 
If the OP's criteria is winning % and % overall, then why isn't Carlton's 1908 team on top with the same winning percentage and superior percentage of 173.7%? And don't say "it's because they're not a relatively modern team" because they're higher than many modern premiership teams who'd all easily account for them.
Don't know and honestly don't care. Unless we could invite some time machine and get all teams playing a round robin we'll never really know. Even then it wouldn't be objective because with natural progression the more recent teams would have an advantage. So it's all just one person's opinion and not worth getting worked up over.
 
Brisbane '01-'03 would've handily accounted for that Essendon side.

Brisbane of 2001, 2002 and 2003 didn't finish on top of the ladder once. All three sides of those sides lost at least 5 games every season and in 2003 lost a final. How would have they have beaten Essendon of 2000? How would that even be possible? FWIW, Essendon of 2000 beat Brisbane at the Gabba by 10 goals in the wet, so your dumb argument of "If a team loses to another team the year before or after a premiership then they are still the same team" is blown out of the water by your own flawed logic.

Our season was over when Kouta did his knee in Round 20, thanks to Jason Johnson in a rucking contest. Other than a full-strength Carlton with a fit and firing Kouta, you really had no competition that year.
What's that got to do with anything? The standard of the entire league of 700 players is basically identical every year. Why would the 700 players representing the 16 clubs in 2000 magically be of a lesser standard than any other year? Essendon's percentage of 163% was achieved against the entire league


This team did not beat Carlton in '99 nor did they beat Brisbane in '01.

Of course the Essendon 2000 team didn't beat Carlton of 1999. They didn't play each other. DUH! I'm not rating the Essendon team of 1999 on this list because they did not win a premiership. Premierships are individual singular achievements won year to year, and this is a list of those 126 individual premiership accomplishments.

Brisbane of 2000 didn't beat Essendon of 2000. Does that make the Brisbane team of 2001 of lesser quality because of what they failed to do the year before?

Next you'll be claiming that Richmond of 2017 wasn't really much chop, because their 2016 team lost to Sydney by 120 points.

Or maybe you'll be telling me Carlton of 1995 wasn't any good because they failed to beat Geelong at Waverley the year before. Your argument makes no sense. It's just a dumb argument.

This is NOT a list of which club had the most successful era, it's a list of who was the best premiership team. You'd think by now anyone with an IQ higher than 70 would understand that.

And let's not forget that this is a very similar Essendon team who lost to Carlton twice in '01, and tanked their final game in Round 22 so they wouldn't face Carlton in a top 4 QF.

No they didn't, and that's an awful thing to say. Essendon's form had drifted in 2001 from round 17 onwards and they weren't playing consistently good football. Richmond finished top-4 that year - it's not like they were a bottom team. They were always a chance to be upset in that game, with nothing to play for (top spot secured) and the Tigers needing to win to make the top-4. Hell, they beat Carlton two weeks later. Stop with this idiotic tanking conspiracy theory that has literally no evidence to back up. It's wrong obviously, but also insulting.
 
If the OP's criteria is winning % and % overall, then why isn't Carlton's 1908 team on top with the same winning percentage and superior percentage of 173.7%? And don't say "it's because they're not a relatively modern team" because they're higher than many modern premiership teams who'd all easily account for them.

Also, the way these threads have been worded over the years, it isn't being treated as opinion. It's being treated as objective fact.

Carlton of 1908 is a famous old team. From the "Every game ever played" book, it quotes about the 1908 side, "In a dour Grand Final, in which many critics felt they failed to do justice to themselves, they defeated Essendon..."

Essentially to be at the top of the list you need to tick every box, which means a dominant finals series and/or Grand Final unless there are extenuating circumstances. For example Collingwood of 1929 lost a final, but are the only team to be unbeaten in the Home and away season, so I have ranked them at two.

To be number one you really need to tick every box.

1.) Win basically every game for the season (bar one) or go undefeated
2.) Have a percenatge of around 160 or more
3.) win all the finals by big margins
4.) Any loss they do have has to be narrow

Essendon of 2000 is the only side in league history to tick all 4 boxes. The only one.

Brisbane of 2001, 2002 and 2003 for example doesn't tick any of those four boxes. Not a single one.
 
Why the f*** would anyone complain about the Essendon team of 00 being ranked on top? The whole competition had their chance to beat them: one team managed it, by a meagre 3 points.

Carlton 95, Geelong back half of 07 and 08 and St Kilda 09 are the only sides in my 33 years of watching who I would give any chance of beating them and all three of them would still lose more often than not if Essendon played to the peak they achieved in that season
 
Our season was over when Kouta did his knee in Round 20, thanks to Jason Johnson in a rucking contest. Other than a full-strength Carlton with a fit and firing Kouta, you really had no competition that year.

Brisbane '01-'03 would've handily accounted for that Essendon side.

This team did not beat Carlton in '99 nor did they beat Brisbane in '01. Will take the hattrick premiers of Brissy and Hawthorn over your lot any day of the week.

And let's not forget that this is a very similar Essendon team who lost to Carlton twice in '01, and tanked their final game in Round 22 so they wouldn't face Carlton in a top 4 QF.
Buddy, I’m not talking about “01-03”. I’m not talking about “99”. I’m talking about ‘00 and it was ******* magnificent.
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top