Yes.
Then the mcg is a neutral venue.
Anyone remember after 2017 the amount of richmond fans hilariously trying to say the mcg was a neutral venue?
They actually argued that blind.
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Then the mcg is a neutral venue.
Anyone remember after 2017 the amount of richmond fans hilariously trying to say the mcg was a neutral venue?
They actually argued that blind.
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I think we didn't lose a home game in 1991 in the Home and Away but then lost first final at Subi v Hawks.
We didn't look as dominant second half of 1991.
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Do you have any evidence that, in Grand Finals, it's not a neutral venue?
Remember how you argued ad nauseam that the Crows would have won were the game played in Adelaide and that April form was the better measure of September form than September form itself? That the the Grand Final at the MCG actually gave MCG tenants a 20 goal advantage?
The best recent measure of MCG home ground advantage is, of course, the 2 finals played between West Coast and Collingwood in September 2018, which demonstrated that the MCG home ground advantage is less than a goal.
The facts just don't support your delusional victim narrative.
Exactly.
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Reading into it way too much.
Went back to '15 and at least one interstater made the prelims. 50/50 was 2 interstaters.
It's a run.
Adelaide had every opportunity to win the GF and cooked it. Port missed out making it by a goal. Look at the bigger picture.
Went back to '15 and at least one interstater made the prelims. 50/50 was 2 interstaters.
It's a run.
Adelaide had every opportunity to win the GF and cooked it. Port missed out making it by a goal. Look at the bigger picture.
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In 2020, the common theme was Brisbane just had to win as they were going to have a Gabba GF. We were ridiculed for losing 2 home prelims. Funny how home ground advantage is a thing only when convenient. It's not like there are any stats that would show teams have a better home vs away record. It's not insurmountable, but it's another 1-3 goal advantage to be overcome. I don't think the umpires would have had the guts to serve up what they did in the 2016 GF if it were played at the SCG. It would have been alot harder to get back into the 2017 GF with Adelaide having got the jump on you and with a home crowd.
Not sure that it's the captain's responsibility to make sure you don't get caught driving at a blood alcohol of 0.125 or in possession of drugs.
Yes.
The definition of a neutral venue.
One in which neither of the teams playing are a tenant.
Actually none of that happened.Remember how you argued ad nauseam that the Crows would have won were the game played in Adelaide and that April form was the better measure of September form than September form itself? That the the Grand Final at the MCG actually gave MCG tenants a 20 goal advantage?
The best recent measure of MCG home ground advantage is, of course, the 2 finals played between West Coast and Collingwood in September 2018, which demonstrated that the MCG home ground advantage is less than a goal.
The facts just don't support your delusional victim narrative.
I keep showing you richmonds form away from the mcg over the entire year.
Not april, if it were just april we wouldnt be having this argument.
The bottom 5 - and port, the team that lost an elimination final at home to 8th…
Your
Teams
Entire
Year
Away
From
The
Mcg.
Good on you KA.
After 6 years you still can't come up with any evidence that Grand Finals at the MCG significantly advantage MCG tenants.
How about you get back to me when you can.
Ah ha. So it's all about Richmond. I can assure you that you're not the only 'neutral' gifting us rent free living space in your head.
The topic here is Grand Finals at the MCG on the Last Saturday in September.
We're not talking about the H&A season. If you want to talk about that, it's a different topic, and there's good evidence that non Melbourne based clubs get a significant advantage.
Do you have any evidence of a Vic advantage at the MCG in the Grand Final?
Please try to focus.
Its an mcg tenant advantage for starts and yes - i have the evidence of thousands of studies that show both players and teams play better on their home grounds.
How about YOU show US some evidence that richmond would have done well playing a gf away from the mcg?
What have you got?
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Yep, no point being champions in April, every year we seem to have an April premier, this year it was Melbourne but they were far from their best in September when it matters.
Are those studies about AFL though, factoring in the unique features/constraints we face?
Do they factor in the many 'home' derbies that a bunch of clubs have to play many times a season on a ground that lots of teams are familiar with? And are those studies about a Grand Final where both sets of supporters get good representation at the ground compared with other finals and h&a?
Like when we went to the AFL and wanted to wear the prison bars and they told us we had to get approval from a big Vic club 1st?
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What do prison bars have to do with being bad?
Are you saying the players are so fragile at Port, they need the bars to perform?
The real reason was revealed by Dustys manager when he spoke of the massive offer the Crows made to him.
He advised him he could make more money staying at Richmond despite getting paid far less on field.
All the media opportunities and corporate backing is in Melbourne.
I dont know how we equalise this but it makes a massive difference in player movement both into and out of Vic.
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I'm saying the concept that the non Vic teams need to just toughen up and make things happen is simplistic to say the least.
We are hamstrung by the AFL who control our board.
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Tell me what Port have ever done on their own, or any club for that matter, the VFL were broke, you all had a chance to maybe see it go under, but no, they got their way and you all followed.
Not one of the non-Vic teams or the states they come from have ever taken the initiative, they follow, like sheep, and cry like lambs.
And here you are crying like a lamb because you can't wear the prison bars, if your club had any balls, they would just wear them.
Equal Thursday, Friday and Saturday night games would help. (Nationally broadcast games)
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I agree. The problem is that our board, elected by AFL house, who can be removed by AFL house, unsurprisingly bow down to AFL house.
What do you suggest that the real club (the members, who aren't actually recognised in the constitution as members) do about this?
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You sold yourself to AFL house, they only own Port Power, not Port Magpies, go get your club back, or is that song just bullshit?
Literally in the same post by yourself. Find me any team that wouldn’t take “ a less than a goal” advantage.Do you have any evidence that, in Grand Finals, it's not a neutral venue?
Remember how you argued ad nauseam that the Crows would have won were the game played in Adelaide and that April form was the better measure of September form than September form itself? That the the Grand Final at the MCG actually gave MCG tenants a 20 goal advantage?
The best recent measure of MCG home ground advantage is, of course, the 2 finals played between West Coast and Collingwood in September 2018, which demonstrated that the MCG home ground advantage is less than a goal.
The facts just don't support your delusional victim narrative.
I think the difference between the two games was approx 21 points so that is a 3.5 goal advantage. If you are using this as any form of argument.
I would have loved a 3.5 goal advantage in 2013.
It doesn't work like that mate, no matter how hard you try, you won't work it out, so many variables.
Let's just say Vic teams have an advantage.
Myself think non-Vics have h&a advantage, but it seems non-Vics won't agree ever that they have some advantages, so it's never going to be agreed upon, so these threads are going to be here forever.
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