Traded Mega deal - 4 clubs, 2 players, 14 picks (inc #1, #2, #3, #8, #12 and 5 future picks)

[XhazzafootyX]

Did north get stooged

 

[SnowRoo]

There's no way 8 and 12 is worth pick 2. For WC to offload pick 2 they'd need at least 8, 12 and another pick around 15-20. Then add Rioli and that's a mid 2nd rounder.

Seems everyone is trying to scramble to help Port.

WC do not need to help Port.
North do not need to help Port.

WC, North and GWS can all play with higher pick trades without Port and without the current time pressure.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Doesn't matter what you think of Rioli pick 2 itself is worth 2 mid first rd picks and a late first rd pick just by itself

I dont think anyone could justify giving that up for a single pick, if that's what WC need, I dont see how they can break it up - which they seem very keen to do

 

[bh90210fan]

Unless we’re making a play for Jackson, we’re better off just splitting pick 2 on draft night where we’ll get better value and trade Rioli separately.

Think WC needs a future 1st on top of 8 & 12 to make it worthwhile

 

[Obeanie1]

Port make out like Bandits.

They do.....but they wont.

 

[Red mist]

That’s a pretty good effort

For Budha? Honestly praise disregard virtue. And then, I’d look at you.

 

[Wce17]

Why wouldn’t North, WCE & GWS do something like this if GWS want pick 1

WCE: In - 3,15 Out: 2

NORTH: In - 2, 12 Out: 1

GWS: In - 1 Out: 4,12,15

GWS pay the premium because they are moving up to the first pick which gets spread between eagles and north with north getting the higher pick back as they held pick 1. Everyone wins no need to include any other team.

Rioli deal can be done separately & JHF is contracted to North so they aren’t under any pressure to trade him. Screw everyone else

 

[SnowRoo]

Why wouldn’t North, WCE & GWS do something like this if GWS want pick 1

WCE: In - 3,15 Out: 2

NORTH: In - 2, 12 Out: 1

GWS: In - 1 Out: 4,12,15

GWS pay the premium because they are moving up to the first pick which gets spread between eagles and north with north getting the higher back as they help pick 1. Everyone wins no need to include any other team.

Doubt North would take 2,12 over 3, 12, 15. No need to invoke WC there.

 

[Tulip]

Not a bad effort, but WCE should get North's F2 rather than Port. Besides, isn't the F2 tied to Freo now or is that their PP?

 

[Wce17]

Doubt North would take 2,12 over 3, 12, 15. No need to invoke WC there.

I guess it depends if they think WCE will grab the player they are after. Say GWS want Cadman & North want Wardlaw by not involving WCE they risk us selecting Wardlaw. If they involve WCE they might sacrifice a pick but they are 100% certain to get Wardlaw.

 

[Tulip]

North:
In - 2, 3, 15, 20, Port F1
Out - JHF, 1, Freo F3

Yeah...that ain't it. JHF is obviously worth a lot as a contracted pick 1, but everyone knows about the work ethic issues and he clearly wants out. Pick 2 or 3 would be appropriate compo, but nothing below that without including multiple firsts.

Remove pick 15 and it is probably close.

 

[SnowRoo]

I guess it depends if they think WCE will grab the player they are after. Say GWS want Cadman & North want Wardlaw by not involving WCE they risk us selecting Wardlaw. If they involve WCE they might sacrifice a pick but they are 100% certain to get Wardlaw.

Think only Cadman is the odd man out being the KPP.

Next 3 aren't far enough apart to waste a 1st on by jumping 1 pick.

If we want Wardlaw but end with Sheezel I don't think anyone will be crying.

 

[Bianconeri]

North getting screwed, don’t see why they’d have to give up a future second or why port would get it after making out like bandits with the rest of their ins.

 

[awesome wells]

Just for fun, if Tom is right, how do you think it is structured.

GWS
In: Pick 1
Out: Pick 3, Pick 12

North
In: Pick 2, Pick 3, Future 1st (PA)
Out: Pick 1, Horne-Francis, Future 2nd

Port
In: Horne-Francis, Ratugolea, Rioli, Future 2nd (NM)
Out: Pick 8, Pick 33, Pick 43,Future 1st

WCE
In: Pick 8, Pick 12, Pick 43, Future 2nd (Bris)
Out: Pick 2, Pick 40, Rioli

Brisbane
In: Pick 40
Out: Future 2nd

Geelong
In: Pick 33
Out: Ratugolea

I’m assuming Brisbane is only involved in that they need more current year picks for father/son selections and possible Dunkley trade

I think the end result should be everyone tells Port to GAGF

 

[Jugada]

Port are a solid comedy act. Just keep adding more and more teams into the mix without giving up anything more than has already been rejected. Got to stop looking for other teams to make up the difference

 

[perplexed]

There really isn't any need for a megatrade at the moment. If North, GWS and WC want to swap picks around it can be done after player trading is finished. Port dont need to be involved at all.
The only reason it seems to be being proposed is so Port can skim a bit off each of these trades in order to get enough capital to get the players they want. No matter how many times they repackage this stuff they just dont have enough draft capital without offloading players.

 

[2006_Eagles]

Not a bad effort, but WCE should get North's F2 rather than Port. Besides, isn't the F2 tied to Freo now or is that their PP?

The PP is separate to the incumbent F2 I think

 

[Free Agent]

What a lot of clubs don't realise in this supposed multi deal is Eagles have all the cards and won't deal unless we come out firm winners. We have pick 2 and seeing what can come from it.

It would be on our terms and ours alone in all this. At the very minimum we be demanding pick 8 12 and 15 to get it done.
Rioli for Ports future 1st or a player of similar quality.

We don't give two shits about any other clubs issues so either give us what we want or we keep pick 2 and go to draft. It isn't something that we must do like you other clubs desprete to obtain players.

 

[Ry009]

What a lot of clubs don't realise in this supposed multi deal is Eagles have all the cards and won't deal unless we come out firm winners. We have pick 2 and seeing what can come from it.

It would be on our terms and ours alone in all this. At the very minimum we be demanding pick 8 12 and 15 to get it done.
Rioli for Ports future 1st or a player of similar quality.

We don't give two shits about any other clubs issues so either give us what we want or we keep pick 2 and go to draft. It isn't something that we must do like you other clubs desprete to obtain players.

This is why the deal falls over. Too much of it hinges on North or WC getting the rough end of the stick.

I'm not trying to continue the shitfighting in this thread, but I'm staggered that Port expect deals to get done without giving anything up of real value.

 

[Wce17]

According to a source on the WCE board we are currently being offered

8, 12 & 19 for 2, 26 & Rioli

We aren’t happy with that, we want something along the lines of this for the deal to happen

8, 12 & 15 for 2,40 & Rioli

The first offer is just okay so I doubt we go for that. What the eagles want I’d be happy with

 

[perplexed]

What a lot of clubs don't realise in this supposed multi deal is Eagles have all the cards and won't deal unless we come out firm winners. We have pick 2 and seeing what can come from it.

It would be on our terms and ours alone in all this. At the very minimum we be demanding pick 8 12 and 15 to get it done.
Rioli for Ports future 1st or a player of similar quality.

We don't give two shits about any other clubs issues so either give us what we want or we keep pick 2 and go to draft. It isn't something that we must do like you other clubs desprete to obtain players.

The whole mega deal thing is just Port's latest attempt to make 2 + 2 = 5. GWS, WC and North can do these sorts of pick swaps if we want any time leading up to the draft. Port's involvement costs everyone else. It also makes more sense to wait before we do them as we will all have a better idea later on where the draftees we fancy are likely to fall.

 

[Malibu#27]

What a lot of clubs don't realise in this supposed multi deal is Eagles have all the cards and won't deal unless we come out firm winners. We have pick 2 and seeing what can come from it.

It would be on our terms and ours alone in all this. At the very minimum we be demanding pick 8 12 and 15 to get it done.
Rioli for Ports future 1st or a player of similar quality.

We don't give two shits about any other clubs issues so either give us what we want or we keep pick 2 and go to draft. It isn't something that we must do like you other clubs desprete to obtain players.

There’s More chance of west coast selecting me with pick 2 than them getting 8 12 15 and a future first out of this, which is humorous given the sorry state of there list

 

[Mofra]

I'm just impressed that Tom Browne correctly named 6 clubs

 

[Pure_Ownage]

According to a source on the WCE board we are currently being offered

8, 12 & 19 for 2, 26 & Rioli

We aren’t happy with that, we want something along the lines of this for the deal to happen

8, 12 & 15 for 2,40 & Rioli

The first offer is just okay so I doubt we go for that. What the eagles want I’d be happy with

Gws should keep 19 they can trade it for a future 1st on draft night.

 

[DesertRoo]

What a lot of clubs don't realise in this supposed multi deal is Eagles have all the cards and won't deal unless we come out firm winners. We have pick 2 and seeing what can come from it.

It would be on our terms and ours alone in all this. At the very minimum we be demanding pick 8 12 and 15 to get it done.
Rioli for Ports future 1st or a player of similar quality.

We don't give two shits about any other clubs issues so either give us what we want or we keep pick 2 and go to draft. It isn't something that we must do like you other clubs desprete to obtain players.

It does make me laugh, the two most precious assets are JHF and pick 1, I’m not sure why we’d entertain letting those two deals intertwine because the extra we’d receive for both deals is diluted. We could do the GWS deal without involving anyone and pocket the extra ourselves.

And for any deal to get to the table for JHF, Port have to go through WCE.
So its kind of simple

 

[CURVE]

Walk away North, this deal is sh!t