News Hawthorn AGM 2022

[flinchfree]

Jeff has a list of bad calls and acts as premier as long as your arm, but I couldn’t have given a s**t about them if he’d been someone who could represent the HFC members and all that they stand for without looking after himself.

Same goes for Merlino.

I'd prefer a shitcan of a human being not being handed the position of leader of our Club.
I have no idea if Merlino fits that description or not, but it would rule out my support for them if they displayed clear lack of character.
Doesn't the most recent episode of questionable treatment of players not suggest a strong moral and ethical compass are important qualifiers for the role?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

So cover up the abuse of the disabled, but as long as you do the right thing for the club?

I’m saying keep the exploits or the politics from years ago out of it, or else we’ll have 200 pages about what Jeff has ever done wrong.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I'd prefer a shitcan of a human being not being handed the position of leader of our Club.
I have no idea if Merlino fits that description or not, but it would rule out my support for them if they displayed clear lack of character.
Doesn't the most recent episode of questionable treatment of players not suggest a strong moral and ethical compass are important qualifiers for the role?

Merlino is not up for president.

Gowers is.

 

[thehardway]

I’m saying keep the exploits or the politics from years ago out of it, or else we’ll have 200 pages about what Jeff has ever done wrong.

I reiterate a previous post of mine. We're just about to see the back of JK who divided the supporter base. Why bring in another pollie who could potentially do the same? Not worth it IMO.

 

[eldorado]

Is there a new article with actual quotes from Gowers ?
I keep getting the old article from 4 days ago

Same

 

[Topiary]

I reiterate a previous post of mine. We're just about to see the back of JK who divided the supporter base. Why bring in another pollie who could potentially do the same? Not worth it IMO.

Understand your point. Very much understand your point. However, getting Dingley built is critical to the future of the Club.

 

[flinchfree]

Merlino is not up for president.

Can't we have character standards for any that represent Hawthorn at board level?
My God it's become such a shemozzle to find good jills and joes these days....

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I reiterate a previous post of mine. We're just about to see the back of JK who divided the supporter base. Why bring in another pollie who could potentially do the same? Not worth it IMO.

I have huge doubt that’s Merlino being on the board is going to divide the club.

Will he spend every waking hour throwing shade at the state and federal government?
Is he going to roll out a bunch of golliwogs with the names Chad and Amon?
Will he get on SEN, 3AW, Fox Footy and anyone that will have him to talk about how badly he thinks other clubs a d the AFL are being run?

I don’t think I could answer yes to any of those questions.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

 

[thehardway]

I have huge doubt that’s Merlino being on the board is going to divide the club.

Will he spend every waking hour throwing shade at the state and federal government?
Is he going to roll out a bunch of golliwogs with the names Chad and Amon?
Will he get on SEN, 3AW, Fox Footy and anyone that will have him to talk about how badly he thinks other clubs a d the AFL are being run?

I don’t think I could answer yes to any of those questions.

Maybe, maybe not. I stand by my view. The members will ultimately decide and we'll move on.

 

[Delecate Des]

I’m saying keep the exploits or the politics from years ago out of it, or else we’ll have 200 pages about what Jeff has ever done wrong.

I really don't give 2 sh@ts what Jeff has done, I am questioning if Merlino is going to be a good fit for the club in a time where the club is under scrutiny for how it deals with its people!!!

If your happy for that because it will give us a tummy rub with the Andrews Government, then good for you!!!

 

[wahawk]

From my understanding of the constitution, you can nominate at any time except for the month or so preceding the AGM. Why would anyone wait for the AGM to be called?

I can’t find anything in the constitution regarding nominating for the board & when it must be done by.

But nominations closed on Wednesday 19th Oct & the AGM is Tuesday 13th Dec.

I have always thought that it was approx 3 weeks (maybe 4) but this is almost 8 weeks out from the AGM.

To me, this sounds like the current board, not just Kennett, have tried to close nominations earlier than usual to catch others off guard.

If this is in fact the case, then (normally) there was no need for Gowers to nominate before he went to Paris.

 

[Hodgey 15]

One may suggest that perhaps we do have a few issues right now to contend with and manage.

Don't be melodramatic.
Except for this board BS, the club is going fine.

 

[tommyk72]

Merlino is not up for president.

Gowers is.

Oh come on. Don't be deliberately obtuse. Any board member is still a leader of the club and are the ones who will be setting the standard or culture. This is particularly important at a time when our on field playing group has limited leadership experience.

We need to rebuild the club's reputation on and off the field. I think having people of good character is a key part of that.

 

[Linda CRS]

Understand your point. Very much understand your point. However, getting Dingley built is critical to the future of the Club.

It’s not critical, the afl arms race says it’s not. Whatever we build others will follow with afl assistance. One of the issues with the board is they overlooked the inability of Dingley to be commercialised. So basically zero revenue. We’ve just sold 2 strong cash streams, if you invested all of our net proceeds today from those sales you couldn’t produce near the annual cash return those businesses have. We have a short fall that when you throw in Tassy means uncharted financial waters. Dingleys a strong asset but it’s value is only high performance training, nothing else. A tips a tip.

 

[Easy Slips Catch]

I can’t find anything in the constitution regarding nominating for the board & when it must be done by.

But nominations closed on Wednesday 19th Oct & the AGM is Tuesday 13th Dec.

I have always thought that it was approx 3 weeks (maybe 4) but this is almost 8 weeks out from the AGM.

To me, this sounds like the current board, not just Kennett, have tried to close nominations earlier than usual to catch others off guard.

If this is in fact the case, then (normally) there was no need for Gowers to nominate before he went to Paris.

I have asked this three times now. I hate Jeff. Why didn't he just nominate when he decided to run? I loathe Jeff. Why wait until the last minute? I still hate Jeff.

Jeff and his pack of slippery eels are known for their chicanery. Why play chicken with them?

 

[MrPremiership]

Like any process, competition is a good thing and will (likely) mean you end up with a better result than if uncontested.

With that in mind, I'm pumped that we have some great candidates putting their hand up for President and vacant Board positions.

Gowers - a passionate Hawthorn man who would be great for the President position on his own accord, not just because he's the anti-Jeff option. Nankervill does not inspire me.

For the vacant Board positions, there are a few candidates that I'm not as familiar with as I'd like, so more research is needed or they need to pitch. From what I know, Ed Sill would be a fantastic selection. I have no issues with Merlino and his politics, and strategically I think it's a no-brainer to have him on board to assist with Dingley given Labor are going to win in a Dan-slide in November.

Interested to see where Nick Holland

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is now, given his unsuccessful nomination last year. Wasn't Silk appointed to the Board last year?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Oh come on. Don't be deliberately obtuse. Any board member is still a leader of the club and are the ones who will be setting the standard or culture. This is particularly important at a time when our on field playing group has limited leadership experience.

We need to rebuild the club's reputation on and off the field. I think having people of good character is a key part of that.

If you want to talk to about reputation, there is a clear distinction between what Jeff has done as president with his mouth and his media clout as opposed to anyone else that I could possibly think of as a candidate to be our president, let alone just a member of the board.

As for the character claims, I have no point of reference on whether he’s a good or bad person, but I suspect that Merlino can’t be that horrible if both Nank and Gowers wanted him to be by their side.

 

[MrPremiership]

If you want to talk to about reputation, there is a clear distinction between what Jeff has done as president with his mouth and his media clout as opposed to anyone else that I could possibly think of as a candidate to be our president, let alone just a member of the board.

As for the character claims, I have no point of reference on whether he’s a good or bad person, but I suspect that Merlino can’t be that horrible if both Nank and Gowers wanted him to be by their side.

Jeff's last 48 hours on twitter has been very poor.

Still can't believe he is doing this whilst being Pres

 

[Mississippi]

For mine, Gowers would be the perfect president right now.
Remember, Nankivell initially declined the position of president and only reluctantly agreed later to take on the position (he was then head of the nomination committee to find a new president!)
He's also been part of the entrenched board for 8 or 9 years.

Gowers, apart from being eminently qualified, brings a fresh and ethical approach to the board.
In saying all of that, and while a large number of HFC members will agree with Gowers as president, I doubt he'll win the vote because proxies will probably ensure Nankivell will prevail.

And Merlino on the board is a no brainer. We desperately need the financial and political support of the Victorian Labor Govt (which will most likely remain in power for the next 2 terms). Merlino as a former Labor deputy premier will be incredibly influential as a board member.

But the main objective has to be to get rid of Kennett.
Consider this -
We get sponsorship from the Tassie Govt of $15 mill over 5 years.
Kennett, in a 5 minute moment through his stupid criticism of the Vic Govt, lost us a govt grant of $15 mill.
In other words, Kennett, by activating his mouth before his brain, effectively cancelled out funding equivalent to 5 years of sponsorship from the Tassie Govt.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Jeff's last 48 hours on twitter has been very poor.

Still can't believe he is doing this whilst being Pres

Yeah, I’ve seen some of that. Excruciating.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Jeff's last 48 hours on twitter has been very poor.

Still can't believe he is doing this whilst being Pres

Just looked at this. Again - the man is so heavily conflicted it's not funny. I think all ex-leaders of all sides need to take a page out of Gillard's book in how to graciously shut the **** up about politics once done with it and representing other interests/organisations.

 

[Delecate Des]

If you want to talk to about reputation, there is a clear distinction between what Jeff has done as president with his mouth and his media clout as opposed to anyone else that I could possibly think of as a candidate to be our president, let alone just a member of the board.

As for the character claims, I have no point of reference on whether he’s a good or bad person, but I suspect that Merlino can’t be that horrible if both Nank and Gowers wanted him to be by their side.

Dare say your opinion would change if it was your non verbal child coming home with unexplained injuries

 

[Linda CRS]

For mine, Gowers would be the perfect president right now.
Remember, Nankivell initially declined the position of president and only reluctantly agreed later to take on the position (he was then head of the nomination committee to find a new president!)
He's also been part of the entrenched board for 8 or 9 years.

Gowers, apart from being eminently qualified, brings a fresh and ethical approach to the board.
In saying all of that, and while a large number of HFC members will agree with Gowers as president, I doubt he'll win the vote because proxies will probably ensure Nankivell will prevail.

And Merlino on the board is a no brainer. We desperately need the financial and politcal support of the Victorian Labor Govt (which will most likely remain in power for the next 2 terms). Merlino as a former Labor deputy premier will be incredibly influential as a board member.

But the main objective has to be to get rid of Kennett.
Consider this -
We get sponsorship from the Tassie Govt of $15 mill over 5 years.
Kennett, in a 5 minute moment through his stupid criticism of the Vic Govt, lost us a govt grant of $15 mill.
In other words, Kennett, by activating his mouth before his brain, effectively cancelled out funding equivalent to 5 years of sponsorship from the Tassie Govt.

Fresh and ethical? Think the existing board members might throw up his lack of nomination understanding speaks to his competence levels as 2 others had no issues and understood timelines. Apparently a fair bit of detail coming back about his time as footy director, hawks for change probably prepared but want to be.