Can Alistair Clarkson lead North to a premiership? Or has footy gone past him?

[windyhill]

Pagan @ north, football mastermind. Pagan @ carlton, no idea Clarkson @ hawks, football mastermind. Clarkson @ north,no idea.
Players make coaches, always have, always will.

 

[windyhill]

First day on the job - will be fascinating to see what he brings.

 

[peetoo]

Jeans 1st flag 6th year 4th flag 22nd year 24 years total no finals last 1 year
Lethal. 1st flag 5th year 4th flag 15th year 20 years total no finals last 4 years
Sheedy 1st flag 4th year 4th flag 21st year 29 years total no finals last 5 years
Clarkson 1st flag 4th year 4th flag 11th year 17 years total no finals last 3 years contracted north 5 years so guess career 21 minimum years

Hardwick 1st flag 8th year 3rd flag 11th year 12 years total hardly missed finals so on track to emulate

 

[jim boy]

I dont really like Clarkson, but he is a 'modern' coach. In that I mean that he recognises it takes a team and that his role is as much about managing and listening to the assistant coaches as anything else. Coaches of lore such as Kennedy and Barassi or even Pagan and Lyon were very much solo coaches who only ever instructed - never a team effort. So Clarkson could do well, but there are now plenty of coaches who do the same, such as Hardwick, Scott and Longmire.

 

[peetoo]

Clarko is an organisational builder, what happened behind the scenes is not often mentioned (just the bad bits these days)

 

[Val Keating]

Pagan @ north, football mastermind. Pagan @ carlton, no idea Clarkson @ hawks, football mastermind. Clarkson @ north,no idea.
Players make coaches, always have, always will.

When Pagan got to Carlton they got stripped of draft picks because of the salary cap breach. Who knows what would have happened if they were allowed to draft kids. That year they had picks 1&2 which was Goddard and Wells, plus whoever else they would have drafted.

Pagan never had a chance.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

He's not fit to coach young men anymore.

 

[Sky]

No AFL or VFL coach has won 5 flags as coach since 1964.

Got more of a chance of Vince Russo running the AFL or WWE or AEW LoL

I could run all 3 of those better especially the last two.

 

[blackshadow]

He's not fit to coach young men anymore.

Why?

Club says he’s fit to coach AFL says he’s fit to coach.

Just because some Bigfooty numpty says so doesn’t mean a thing.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Why?

Club says he’s fit to coach AFL says he’s fit to coach.

Just because some Bigfooty numpty says so doesn’t mean a thing.

Stop abusing people mate, you can't help yourself.

 

[windyhill]

When Pagan got to Carlton they got stripped of draft picks because of the salary cap breach. Who knows what would have happened if they were allowed to draft kids. That year they had picks 1&2 which was Goddard and Wells, plus whoever else they would have drafted.

Pagan never had a chance.

Just reinforces my point.

 

[Val Keating]

Just reinforces my point.

No it doesn’t.

 

[ferball]

He's not fit to coach young men anymore.

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[Mitchell Madness]

North goes far if clarko from 2004-11 is on board.
He would let other coaches take the reigns, and craved feedback.
2012 onwards he started becoming bigger than the team though, winning finals was amazing, but when it went belly up he refused to listen

 

[Osho]

Pagan @ north, football mastermind. Pagan @ carlton, no idea Clarkson @ hawks, football mastermind. Clarkson @ north,no idea.
Players make coaches, always have, always will.

RFC?

 

[windyhill]

No it doesn’t.

You said if he had access to guns like Goddard & Wells. I agree with you, carlton would’ve been miles better.

 

[windyhill]

RFC?

Dusty ?

 

[Osho]

Dusty ?

One player won three flags? No coaching? Come on now. Zero sum arguments are nearly ALWAYS good for a giggle.

 

[peetoo]

I agree you have to have the cattle, but I think the right coach for some players can turn an average player into something special.

Threepeat lions before lethal arrived? Wooden spooners. Yeah the coach is irrelevant

 

[windyhill]

One player won three flags? No coaching? Come on now. Zero sum arguments are nearly ALWAYS good for a giggle.

You could be Jesus, Arsene Wenger and Jock McHale all rolled into one. If you don’t have the cattle you are ****ed !

 

[ferball]

North goes far if clarko from 2004-11 is on board.
He would let other coaches take the reigns, and craved feedback.
2012 onwards he started becoming bigger than the team though, winning finals was amazing, but when it went belly up he refused to listen

He made a big point of saying he needed people around him to keep him in line when he did he the signing on press conference with Sonja Hood.

 

[ferball]

You said if he had access to guns like Goddard & Wells. I agree with you, carlton would’ve been miles better.

Maybe ... Pagan could have been the hard arse Daniel Wells needed.

 

[Dazb86]

Feel like they might make the 8 by his last contracted year

 

[Freomaniac]

I could run all 3 of those better especially the last two.

I have not been excited since that September 1995 to march 2001 period when wrestling was exciting on Monday nights

 

[Ginnieboy]

He doesn’t have a magic wand, any success he has will likely take years to build, looking at 2-3 years minimum and that’s with nailing drafts and attracting quality FA’s.