NO TROLLS Hawthorn Racism Review - Sensitive issues discussed. Part 2

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Link to Hawthorn Statement. - Link to ABC Sports article. - Leaked Report

Process Plan - https://resources.afl.com.au/afl/do...erms-of-Reference-and-Process-Plan-FINAL-.pdf


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[The Warlord]

You folks went through it and off into Rusty's wonderland a long time ago.

 

[Maddo11]

In defence of Simpkin's posts, I can at least comprehend them. You lost me at NPCs and then the search party gave up when they reached the italics.

I Honestly didn't expect a 100% strike rate when making a reference to a nearly 20 year old video game on an Australian football forum.

 

[The Warlord]

In defence of Simpkin's posts, I can at least comprehend them.

No, you really can't.

 

[sr36]

No, you really can't.

Probably best if you put me back on ignore if that pitiful attempt at wit is all you're capable of.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

You folks went through it and off into Rusty's wonderland a long time ago.

How’s the tin foil fedora sitting today?

 

[JGreezy]

The last couple of pages are just making a mockery of the stickied comment

 

[The Warlord]

How’s the tin foil fedora sitting today?

Sigh.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I can think of another massive footy story I was right about.

Woah Rebecca’s journey was real?

 

[The Warlord]

Proud Yorta Yorta Man Jy Simpkin thrilled to be a captain under Clarko.

Clarkson co-operating fully with the investigation but his key accusers are not.

Reality is very different from the wild fantasies pitched earlier in these threads.

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[demondavey]

Well this is over.

Nothing will come of this.

 

[Chief]

Clarkson co-operating fully with the investigation but his key accusers are not.

And they have explained why.

You seem to see only one side of things.

 

[The Warlord]

Well this is over.

Nothing will come of this.

Lots and lots will come from it. Very big names will lose their jobs.

 

[demondavey]

Lots and lots will come from it. Very big names will lose their jobs.

Who?

 

[Engimal v3]

Proud Yorta Yorta Man Jy Simpkin thrilled to be a captain under Clarko.

Clarkson co-operating fully with the investigation but his key accusers are not.

Reality is very different from the wild fantasies pitched earlier in these threads.

Moore responsibility, please: Darcy talks Pies’ captaincy; Gawn’s hamstring scans revealed

Collingwood star Darcy Moore has opened up on the Magpies’ captaincy vacancy, while Alastair Clarkson, who famously punched a wall in the coaches box at the MCG in a fit of anger, has this time had one removed as he goes about rebuilding North Melbourne. Elsewhere, the results are in on Max...

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You have to remember that the accusers didn't go public with this. They sat on these stories for years, and didn't speak about them until they were contacted by the club itself (Hawthorn), at which point they contributed to an internal report.

You'd have to be truly one-eyed to believe that it's all lies. These people didn't really have a lot to gain by coming forward.

 

[The Warlord]

You seem to see only one side of things.

I have thousands of words where I try and see it through the perspective of all involved.

You don't though mate. And to be frank Amy's refusal to take part would be very different if there were a solid front of all impacted Hawthorn players and their families refusing to take part on grounds of cultural safety.

But more families than spoke to Egan and Rusty are cooperating with the investigation.

So that doesn't hold. Indeed, one of the big questions from the whole thing is why so few families DID engage with Egan.

Could it be Egan doesn't have a great rep? Maybe because of claims he ripped off his own community?

 

[The Warlord]

Who?

Newbold and Kennett would be my tip.

It's interesting that of all those who stood down after the story and some follow ups broke, the only one who hasn't returned to their post is Andrew Newbold, AFL Commissioner.

Noting that in the hierarchy of the AFL, a Commissioner is the second highest level, a Cardinal if you will.

 

[Chief]

But more families than spoke to Egan and Rusty are cooperating with the investigation.

Good stuff, as discussed.

 

[Chief]

So that doesn't hold. Indeed, one of the big questions from the whole thing is why so few families DID engage with Egan.

Could it be Egan doesn't have a great rep? Maybe because of claims he ripped off his own community?

You tell us what you've heard.

 

[The Warlord]

You have to remember that the accusers didn't go public with this.

They spoke on the record to a then senior and well respected Walkley winning journalist at the ABC.

 

[The 747]

Well this is over.

Nothing will come of this.

Yep.

 

[Engimal v3]

They spoke on the record to a then senior and well respected Walkley winning journalist at the ABC.

After he reached out to them.

 

[Engimal v3]

I have thousands of words where I try and see it through the perspective of all involved.

 

[The Warlord]

You tell us what you've heard.

Its been widely reported. He's under police investigation for ripping off his own community.

 

[The Warlord]

After he reached out to them.

Well, he reached out to ALL indigenous Hawthorn players and families from a very weirdly set timeframe. And very few responded.

Why is that?

And let's not forget this all kicked off when the Riolis went public with their experiences of racism at Hawthorn.

In those same stories indigenous players including Rioli expressed deep frustration at how the club handled the Goodes booing.

These families could have come forward when Cyril and Shannon Ah-Sam opened the door.

They didn't, I get that may have difficult.

But let's not pretend Egan broke open the idea of racism at Hawthorn.

He didn't.

He was only hired AFTER Cyril had the courage to come forward.

Yet Cyril's experiences don't feature anywhere in Egan's report.

Nor does Hawthorn players approaching the club to do something about thr Goodes booing.

It's very strange.

 

[Engimal v3]

Well, he reached out to ALL Hawthorn players and families. And very few responded.

Why is that?

And let's not forget this all kicked off when the Riolis went public with their experiences of racism at Hawthorn.

In those same stories indigenous players including Rioli expressed deep frustration at how the club handled the Goodes booing.

These families could have come forward when Cyril and Shannon Ah-Sam opened the door.

They didn't, I get that may have difficult.

But let's not pretend Egan broke open the idea of racism at Hawthorn.

He didn't.

He was only hired AFTER Cyril had the courage to come forward.

Yet Cyril's experiences don't feature anywhere in Egan's report.

Nor does Hawthorn players approaching the club to do something about thr Goodes booing.

It's very strange.

I don't think it's anywhere near as strange as you'd like it to be