Player Watch JHF - Jason Horne-Francis

[owen87]

Actually Collingwood are the ones who give a s**t about our jumper. Nobody at Port has ever tried to stop Collingwood wearing anything.

I wasn't arguing Collingwood didn't care about Port though.

You tried to argue no AFL supporter outside Victoria cares about Collingwood. Which is patently wrong.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I wasn't arguing Collingwood didn't care about Port though.

You tried to argue no AFL supporter outside Victoria cares about Collingwood. Which is patently wrong.

Did I?

 

[Triggering Tiger]

Why does everyone refer to him as JHF just like president JFK?

 

[JimmyBC]

According to recent data Sydney have the largest supporter base in the country so by association South Melbourne are the biggest Vic club ever!

 

[owen87]

Did I?

Apologies, had you confused with the Port supporter I originally replied to.

 

[JimmyBC]

Apologies, had you confused with the Port supporter I originally replied to.

I said not many, as in you call an Essendon supporters meeting in Adelaide & I'll hire the Hope Valley Scout Hall... I'm tipping half the chairs won't be needed.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

I feel now is an appropriate time to again thank North Melbourne for handing us their first ever #1 draft pick.

 

[owen87]

I said not many, as in you call an Essendon supporters meeting in Adelaide & I'll hire the Hope Valley Scout Hall... I'm tipping half the chairs won't be needed.

Why would Essendon supporters attend a meeting in Adelaide? We had 86,000 odd members in 2022 and I doubt many of them would turn up to some random meeting either.

What a bizarre metric.

 

[JimmyBC]

Why would Essendon supporters attend a meeting in Adelaide? We had 86,000 odd members in 2022 and I doubt many of them would turn up to some random meeting either.

What a bizarre metric.

It was sarcasm dude I know you lot like to think the world revolves around you over there, but the reality is the only attention you ever really get in other markets like SA & WA from the vast majority is when you play Crows, Port, Eagles & Freo.

 

[owen87]

It was sarcasm dude I know you lot like to think the world revolves around you over there, but the reality is the only attention you ever really get in other markets like SA & WA from the vast majority is when you play Crows, Port, Eagles & Freo.

I get the feeling people not from Victoria think Victorians care a whole lot more about what they're doing than Victorians actually do.

Collingwood has a much bigger reach outside their home state than any of the WA / SA clubs. Sydney (being ex South Melbourne) might be the only non-VIC club with meaningful support outside their home state, meanwhile Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton all have good support outside of Victoria.

 

[PrinceCharles]

It was sarcasm dude I know you lot like to think the world revolves around you over there, but the reality is the only attention you ever really get in other markets like SA & WA from the vast majority is when you play Crows, Port, Eagles & Freo.

It would be pretty weird if the SA and WA markets weren't focused on their own teams...

 

[The Warlord]

He also plays for a team which has won 9 games over the last three seasons. Port haven't won less than 10 games in one season since 2012.

You don't understand just how much you've owned yourself here do you.

 

[The Warlord]

The Kangaroos finished bottom of the ladder, when West Coast played multiple games during the year with top up players that only met their teammates on the Friday before the game.

All clubs have downcycles, but if you're a small club (I think we can all agree that by any metric North are a small club) struggles (see GC player loses compared to GWS who have had more success and retained players better over the long term) then its going to be very very hard to retain talent, especially when every man and their dog knew JHF wanted to be in South Australia before he was drafted.

Thing is, we haven't struggled to retain talent. Indeed, we let Jason go, we could have held him to his contract

Not disagreeing with your general thread, but in reality it's a bigger club in the Crows that's had the biggest talent drain over the medium term imo.

 

[Schulzenfest]

I get the feeling people not from Victoria think Victorians care a whole lot more about what they're doing than Victorians actually do.

I get the feeling people from Victoria think non-Victorians care a lot more about what they're doing than they actually do as well.

 

[owen87]

I get the feeling people from Victoria think non-Victorians care a lot more about what they're doing than they actually do as well.

Funny how much non-Victorians post about Victoria.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Funny how much non-Victorians post about Victoria.

You've been posting in a thread about a Port Adelaide player all day my friend.

 

[The acurate one]

All clubs have downcycles, but if you're a small club (I think we can all agree that by any metric North are a small club) struggles (see GC player loses compared to GWS who have had more success and retained players better over the long term) then its going to be very very hard to retain talent, especially when every man and their dog knew JHF wanted to be in South Australia before he was drafted.

Yes they do, North in their wisdom decided to try and maintain a spot in the middle of the ladder somewhere and it was always going to bite us eventually.

We have pretty good player retention all things considered, yeah we lost JHFF, but as you said he was always going home. Importantly 'home' wasn't SA but Port Power.

So had JHFF wanted to stay in Adelaide it would have been at the Crows, which we now all realise that wasn't an option for him. Had it been I'd suggest we'd have done the trade with the Crows. And as we weren't really serious about doing a deal, one does wonder what we could have cooked up had we been really considering it.

All Jason would have needed to say via his manager was that he's super excited to play for North but his long-term goal is to return home.

Anyway he'll be great for Port and we did well in the end.

 

[owen87]

You've been posting in a thread about a Port Adelaide player all day my friend.

You're really trying to be relevant here aren't you?

 

[LoungeLizard]

It was sarcasm dude I know you lot like to think the world revolves around you over there, but the reality is the only attention you ever really get in other markets like SA & WA from the vast majority is when you play Crows, Port, Eagles & Freo.

Didn't Ess v Rich draw a bigger crowd than WC v Rich a week later at the same venue in Perth?

 

[PAFC_FOREVER]

Let's be fair here, no one else aside from the Crows (obviously) considers Port important enough to be rivals either.

Brisbane says hi

Also, pretty hard to have Carlton be considered a rival when they still haven't won a game at Adelaide Oval.... How humiliating...

 

[The 747]

I feel now is an appropriate time to again thank North Melbourne for handing us their first ever #1 draft pick.

Oh I wasn't aware footy was on, is he dominating?

 

[hawkman]

I get the feeling people not from Victoria think Victorians care a whole lot more about what they're doing than Victorians actually do.

Collingwood has a much bigger reach outside their home state than any of the WA / SA clubs. Sydney (being ex South Melbourne) might be the only non-VIC club with meaningful support outside their home state, meanwhile Essendon, Collingwood and Carlton all have good support outside of Victoria.

WC would be the one exception to that. They always seem to have a lot of support in Melbourne

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Oh I wasn't aware footy was on, is he dominating?

He is on the training track from what i've seen, moving super free and probably gained a yard which is hardly surprising considering the leg issue he was carrying.
I feel sorry for North supporters as their medical team failed Jason and North, as well as he played early, never got to witness him unrestricted.
He's going to be scary good once he gets full confidence back.

 

[owen87]

WC would be the one exception to that. They always seem to have a lot of support in Melbourne

Quite a few people move over from Perth for work so that wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Le Grille]

I genuinely think north tried to support JHF but JHF didn’t want it.

At any rate I’m coming around to blaming noble for this situation. It might have been great if JHF gave it a shot with Clarko and the overhaul of the off field staff but at any rate he’s gone and the bridge is burned.

Cornes framing it as north giving up on him is pretty s**t though.