Discussion Nick Walsh, Head of High Performance and Conditioning quits

[XhazzafootyX]

No statement from the club yet

 

[Oh When the Saints]

Nick Walsh when he came to the club had been running the 'Tackle Your Feelings' program for the AFLPA for 3 years and owned a gym in Sydney. Prior to that he was at the Giants as backline coach and development coach. When he first joined the Giants under Sheedy he was a strength and conditioning coach for a couple of years. He was a very surprising appointment at the time although he seems to have done a decent job from an outsider's perspective.

Contrast with Misson who has continuously been Head of Elite Performance at 3 AFL clubs, 1 NRL club and the Australian Cricket Team since the late 90s.

If Misson has a different view of what is required then you have to back his runs on the board.

 

[AirWinmar]

It's really just Ross Coffield McKenzie Jones Campbell King right?

McKenzie and Jones are just injury prone, well before Walsh.

Campbell hadn't done his achilles it was just a strain.

Leaves Ross Coffield King with genuine soft tissue injuries. I'd say it's normal for clubs to have a few soft tissues on the list?

Walsh gave them a program that netted results either way you slice it I reckon. We are running over the top of sides consistently and as mentioned a majority of the group came back for pre-season the fittest they've been.

I thought Walsh was doing a great job. Many in here commended the effort and intensity we've played at. We're annoyed about the injuries but I don't think I ever saw Walsh mentioned, people here were just putting it down to bad luck.

I wouldn't be surprised if Misson is overstepping the mark and trying to tell Walsh how to do his job. That's a pretty believable scenario and I don't think it's a coincidence that Walsh has been here a few years and as soon as Misson takes over Geoff Walsh's position, becoming Nick Walsh's boss, that it only takes about a month for it to end like this.

Billings Leg was a stress fracture which could be cause by excessive training loads too

 

[HunterClarksHeadband]

Of all the weeks for this to happen to us though?? We simply have to beat North, seriously hope our routine/preparation isn't hindered by this.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

footy classified thought it was a weird departure

 

[Drop Kick]

Nick Walsh leaving got a brief mention on Footy Classified, but really, they didn't give a damn. Hutchy only cared that the story was broken on SEN.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Just bring in Sean Dempster

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[mad-saint-guy]

After taking a look at his resume I wouldn't be surprised if Misson didn't think he was up to it and had been micro-managing or imposing his will on Walsh to the point where he walks away. Had a stretch in a variety of roles at GWS and then spent 3 years managing a mental wellness program prior to joining us. You'd think we'd be able to find someone with a more impressive resume.

No doubt the squad is very fit but we've also had a lot of guys break down with soft tissue/overuse injuries and struggle to come back from them.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

seems like a non story to me... or as george would say "seems super suss and a bad look cant help but think ross is going to drive this club into the ground and don't get me started on that lethlean character, something something daddy"

 

[Sully111]

That's it. We're f*#ked. Pack it up and move us to Tassie.

 

[Longmembrey]

Good timing - all fitness work is done prior to season and now it is just recovery / maintenance mode anyway

 

[Longmembrey]

It's really just Ross Coffield McKenzie Jones Campbell King right?

McKenzie and Jones are just injury prone, well before Walsh.

Campbell hadn't done his achilles it was just a strain.

Leaves Ross Coffield King with genuine soft tissue injuries. I'd say it's normal for clubs to have a few soft tissues on the list?

Walsh gave them a program that netted results either way you slice it I reckon. We are running over the top of sides consistently and as mentioned a majority of the group came back for pre-season the fittest they've been.

I thought Walsh was doing a great job. Many in here commended the effort and intensity we've played at. We're annoyed about the injuries but I don't think I ever saw Walsh mentioned, people here were just putting it down to bad luck.

I wouldn't be surprised if Misson is overstepping the mark and trying to tell Walsh how to do his job. That's a pretty believable scenario and I don't think it's a coincidence that Walsh has been here a few years and as soon as Misson takes over Geoff Walsh's position, becoming Nick Walsh's boss, that it only takes about a month for it to end like this.

Didn't Misson already oversee Walsh prior to taking on the Geoff Walsh role?

 

[SaintersUnite]

Who cares, fitness staff come and go constantly in the sporting industry. If we start to perform to a lesser standard then that’s on the players, not one man who told them how far to run at training.


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[Klaatu]

You can add Hayes,Hotton & McClelland last 2 are back related stress fractures & Hayes possibly overloading work causing foot fractures.

 

[BucketsandBanger]

It's really just Ross Coffield McKenzie Jones Campbell King right?

McKenzie and Jones are just injury prone, well before Walsh.

Campbell hadn't done his achilles it was just a strain.

Leaves Ross Coffield King with genuine soft tissue injuries. I'd say it's normal for clubs to have a few soft tissues on the list?

Walsh gave them a program that netted results either way you slice it I reckon. We are running over the top of sides consistently and as mentioned a majority of the group came back for pre-season the fittest they've been.

I thought Walsh was doing a great job. Many in here commended the effort and intensity we've played at. We're annoyed about the injuries but I don't think I ever saw Walsh mentioned, people here were just putting it down to bad luck.

I wouldn't be surprised if Misson is overstepping the mark and trying to tell Walsh how to do his job. That's a pretty believable scenario and I don't think it's a coincidence that Walsh has been here a few years and as soon as Misson takes over Geoff Walsh's position, becoming Nick Walsh's boss, that it only takes about a month for it to end like this.

lol you are overstating his influence just a tad. Players effort and intensity have 0% to do with Nick Walsh and everything to do with Lyon and the new coaching set up.

If it is Misson who pushed him out that is a good thing cause Misson has a huge amount of experience at elite sporting organisations. Attributing everything good to Walsh as the hold over from the precious regime and not the new influences (Lyon and Misson) is very strange. Walsh was around for all the bad stuff previously, including us not being fit enough under Ratten.

 

[gringo2011]

Billings Leg was a stress fracture which could be cause by excessive training loads too

Petty sure he did it playing against the Dees in the preseason match? Got a fracture from contact.

 

[gringo2011]

Resigning immediately would lead me to believe that something went on. I remember a few posters saying our injuries were bad luck because majority were contact injuries and not soft tissue. Walsh also has us as fit as we've ever been. Bizarre stuff tonight really.

That suited my narrative then, now this guy is gone he was a massive spud and did everything wrong. Honestly don't think it's a huge deal though, they'd still have his program from early in the year and Misson will probably take over the role until we can fill it.

Like freaking out that the dishwasher will be irreplaceable. We got Lyon for exactly this reason, to raise standards across the board. In the past we would keep staff on no matter what they did. Lyon is going to push standards high and some staff won't take it well and move on. At the end of the day we want to be more professional and have the best people in all roles. This gives us that opportunity.

 

[Mowman]

Petty sure he did it playing against the Dees in the preseason match? Got a fracture from contact.

That’s right
Someone fell across his leg

 

[Bertha]

Getting held responsible for the soft tissue stuff.

Coffield calf might be the straw that broke the camels back.

Yeah, that's an interesting point. Those that have had soft tissue injuries have had set backs and slow to return - Coff, King and Hayes.

CVs don't always tell the full story, but I thought he was an odd choice for the HP role I'm the first place in so much as he didn't seem to be that well experienced. Given Misson is there, I'm not,that uncomfortable with the decision and better to pull the band aid off now.

 

[BrutThough]

You can add Hayes,Hotton & McClelland last 2 are back related stress fractures & Hayes possibly overloading work causing foot fractures.

Hotton wouldn't have trained with us for long enough before the injury came up for it to be attributed to our program.

 

[bird_man]

Its impossible to know who should get the credit or blame for anything on the outside.

On one hand Walsh was there all last year and didn't get great results but we look very fit this year. We also have a lot more injuries including soft tissue and stress related ones.

On the other hand we didn't really see the results until Misson came in but at the same time that's when we started to see an influx in injuries.

I won't jump to any conclusions. As has been stated, fitness staff come and go all the time although it is a bit strange how sudden this one is.

I think Misson was a very good appointment though so I'm going to back him in for now with the experience he has.

 

[pluggeranddoc]

Misson, the genius that thought Luke Ball was only good for 6 minutes at a time!

Collingwood are eternally grateful for his expertise!

 

[AirWinmar]

Petty sure he did it playing against the Dees in the preseason match? Got a fracture from contact.

Sorry you likely right. It happened during the game, not sure how - but it was a hairline fracture to the fibula, which is why I thought it could be stress fracture

 

[cowboy18]

Misson, the genius that thought Luke Ball was only good for 6 minutes at a time!

Collingwood are eternally grateful for his expertise!

Maybe I’m an overly sensitive snowflake with poor coping mechanisms and an inability to move on from historical sporting failures but I feel anything referencing the circumstances around 2009/2010 or even 1997 needs some sort of warning. Or at least be labelled “NSFS” or something like that.

I have more or less moved on from 1971 so I’ve got that going for me.

 

[The Cobra]

Just saw this & don’t like it.

At training Walsh always seemed to be going about his business, looking at the computer and often consulting with Misson & RTB. Seemed like a quiet but efficient operator.

Obviously he was sacked or he has snatched it. Speaks of some deeper disharmony.

Misson already has a lot on his plate so I don’t like the thought of him picking up the slack if that’s whats happening.

All preseason & in season RTB has praised our fitness & run so seems strange - mid season departure is instability we definitely don’t need.

Wonder if there is more going on - hope not!

ps doubt you will hear from Walsh (other than background whispers from Caro & all those other journos who are ITK or make it up as they go along!!!) - probably paid out & in return signed a non disclosure agreement.