Roast The Non Goal: F*** the AFL, court injunction?

[GameofSloanes]

Yeah not a lot of celebrating, and Hickeys face is like oh boy can you believe we got away with that?

Parker went to celebrate then remembered what happened and just was like 'wow'

 

[Brett Cummings]

3 mistakes made in less than a minute.

1. Goal umpire calla a behind. Doesn't ask for a review

2. No field umpire calls for a review when they see crows players celebrating.

3. They let sydney continue playing when crows players were still celebrating and out of position.

It's not just the goal ump that should be stood down. Its all the field umps.

Brett rosebury for such an experienced ump that has umpired gf's, inexcusable.

 

[MsTopG]

Olsen said they consulted lawyers and were told we couldn't win, so it was a waste of time

The AFL's lawyers or ours?

 

[Brett Cummings]

Olsen said they consulted lawyers and were told we couldn't win, so it was a waste of time

Couldn't win? So how would the afl respond when asked why a score review wasn't called for? They'd respond by saying eeeeeeeeer eeeeeeeeeeer the goal umpire called a behind. and the judge replies by saying ok but what about all the field umps when they can clearly see crows players celebrating? They'd be completely f@cked. There's no excuse why the tech wasn't used.

 

[MsTopG]

Couldn't win? So how would the afl respond when asked why a score review wasn't called for? They'd respond by saying eeeeeeeeer eeeeeeeeeeer the goal umpire called a behind. and the judge replies by saying ok but what about all the field umps when they can clearly see crows players celebrating? They'd be completely f@cked. There's no excuse why the tech wasn't used.

Let's look at the decisions in the first half as well. Anyone can see that the field umpires were favouring the swans. It wouldn't be hard to then tie that to their inaction of seeing a clear goal and not even calling a review. You can't tell me that one field umpire didn't see that sail through the goals. They knew it was a goal and allowed us to be robbed. Those field umpires should be stood down as well.

 

[nummy217]

Swans fan at my work - actual nice guy. Or so I thought
Was talking up how awesome the swans final run is this morning, they're probably gonna get a home final. I said 'oh it's easy when you get 4 pts for losing'. Laughs and tells me to get over it, what does the scoreboard say. Consistent with all Swans fans I saw at the game too

Yeah copping it from pear supporters at work too they can GAGF.

 

[Brett Cummings]

Swans fan at my work - actual nice guy. Or so I thought
Was talking up how awesome the swans final run is this morning, they're probably gonna get a home final. I said 'oh it's easy when you get 4 pts for losing'. Laughs and tells me to get over it, what does the scoreboard say. Consistent with all Swans fans I saw at the game too

"Bad decisions that costs games are ok as long as it doesn't happen to my team."

 

[Red mist]

This morally corrupt, self serving, absolute witchhunting ******* s**t show of a "competition"

Welcome to AFC fandom. It’s like the waiting room in Beetlejuice.

 

[Dangerousfield]

Don't forget that the Swans were also handed a win in bizarre circumstances vs North

Norf didn't want to win so threw an extra interchange in to lose the game. Recipients of 8 points via **** ups.

Maybe Saturday night was an even up by the ump for Jenkins goal, I mean point, no I mean goal?

 

[Geoffa32]

Couldn't win? So how would the afl respond when asked why a score review wasn't called for? They'd respond by saying eeeeeeeeer eeeeeeeeeeer the goal umpire called a behind. and the judge replies by saying ok but what about all the field umps when they can clearly see crows players celebrating? They'd be completely f@cked. There's no excuse why the tech wasn't used.

AFL have admitted the "mistake".

The issue with going to court to overturn the result is the time left in the game and the possibility Sydney kick another goal to win anyway.


Highly unlikely that was going to happen. But also unlikely you are going to convince a judge it won't happen and award us the win.


If it could even be put to a court. Hard to see what grounds we have to go to court anyway.



Court action is fantasy land stuff.

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[Brett Cummings]

Whose to say Sydney dont kick a goal in the last 40 seconds to regain the lead had it been called a goal? I'd be making a hell of a lot of noise about this but no point trying to challenge the result.

I agree the result shouldn't be overturned because of a minute sill on the clock but a lot of people will be boycotting the afl because of this and deservedly so. They deserve to bleed.

 

[Corvidae]

Genuninely would be happier if we refused to play this week.

If you can't guarantee a fairly officiated contest, we're not going to bother. Embarasses the AFL, shows we won't just eat any s**t sandwich we're handed, hurts the AFL with their broadcast obligations etc, and stops me having to pretend to give a s**t about the hollowest s**t of all time.

Send a message that our participation in a crooked league is not guaranteed. I certainly feel that mine as a paying customer isn't.

And frankly, if we show up I have a suspicion they'll screw us in every direction so that they can prove that they didn't cost us finals.

Us losing to West Coast in a dead-rubber won’t prove jacks$#&, there’s absolutely no comparison to a game where finals are on the line. Ditto for Geelong v Bulldogs, and (however unlikely a Bombers’ win would be) Essendon v Collingwood round 23 games. Should we lose the AFL (being the most incompetent sporting organisation on the planet) will almost certainly argue that point as you suggest, but anyone capable of critical thought will know that argument to be completely baseless and built on a house of cards rationale (so fully expecting most Port Power supporters to lap it up and use it as some form of definitive proof that the incorrect decision cost the Crows nothing).

I’m with you though, the club should make a stand to highlight the farcical situation they find themselves in. Swap the ones with the twos would be my suggestion, but a refusal to play would certainly send a very strong message too. Would the AFL find a way to sanction us? Maybe, but it would be pretty hard for the AFL to explain why they’re choosing to punish the victim of their monumental f&*$up rather than doing something constructive to correct it (like rendering the result null and void and replaying the game in the pre-finals’ week bye).

 

[Brett Cummings]

AFL have admitted the "mistake".

The issue with going to court to overturn the result is the time left in the game and the possibility Sydney kick another goal to win anyway.


Highly unlikely that was going to happen. But also unlikely you are going to convince a judge it won't happen and award us the win.


If it could even be put to a court. Hard to see what grounds we have to go to court anyway.



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My argument would them be its not human error. It's negligence. There's no excuse why a review wasn't called.

 

[MsTopG]

AFL have admitted the "mistake".

The issue with going to court to overturn the result is the time left in the game and the possibility Sydney kick another goal to win anyway.


Highly unlikely that was going to happen. But also unlikely you are going to convince a judge it won't happen and award us the win.


If it could even be put to a court. Hard to see what grounds we have to go to court anyway.



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The onus should be on the AFL to prove that the swans would have won. Why should the onus be on us when we are in front by 4 points?

 

[Red mist]

"dismissed. There was still a minute to go. costs awarded to defendants for wasting the courts time"

Time awaiting doesn’t always override time back in court

 

[BrissyCrow]

Olsen said they consulted lawyers and were told we couldn't win, so it was a waste of time

Part of that was due to the fact that we cant sue the owners of our club which is the AFL. I would have thought that some discussion at the board would have revolved around how do we get ownership before 2028.

 

[DaBarz]

I think you're focusing too much on the swans and not on us. Of course the swans could have won being 4 points down with 70 seconds to go but we also could have won being 4 points up with 70 seconds to go and if you looked at all matches that have ever taken place between two teams where one was 4 points up wity 70 seconds to go you would find that the team that's 4 points up probably wins 99.9% of the time. So therefore the argument that the swans were the rightful winner of the game is null and void.

Forgive the intrusion but this is a very interesting point.
Fact is it was a goal - you change the score the crows win. All the ifs and buts in the world don’t change that.
Sydney might have scored
- a goal - a point - it’s an unknown.

 

[mick500]

Nothing anyone says or does is going to change the result. We just have to accept that we won't be playing finals because some dickhead thought he knew better than everyone else and didn't go upstairs for a review.

 

[WetCrow1991]

Swans fan at my work - actual nice guy. Or so I thought
Was talking up how awesome the swans final run is this morning, they're probably gonna get a home final. I said 'oh it's easy when you get 4 pts for losing'. Laughs and tells me to get over it, what does the scoreboard say. Consistent with all Swans fans I saw at the game too

Fairweather fans the lot of them.

 

[Red mist]

Nothing anyone says or does is going to change the result. We just have to accept that we won't be playing finals because some dickhead thought he knew better than everyone else and didn't go upstairs for a review.

I’m with this guy. Well said guy.

 

[Red mist]

The big giveaway was Tom Hickey trotting away from the goal square with a big cheesy grin...he knew it was a goal.

The big giveaway was the three swans defenders on the post mate. ThTs where it occurred

 

[JennyTalia]

Day 4: still mad...

 

[Geoffa32]

Nothing anyone says or does is going to change the result. We just have to accept that we won't be playing finals because some dickhead thought he knew better than everyone else and didn't go upstairs for a review.

Bingo.

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[GameofSloanes]

Couldn't win? So how would the afl respond when asked why a score review wasn't called for? They'd respond by saying eeeeeeeeer eeeeeeeeeeer the goal umpire called a behind. and the judge replies by saying ok but what about all the field umps when they can clearly see crows players celebrating? They'd be completely f@cked. There's no excuse why the tech wasn't used.

It was on the basis that the rules say a review is only required if the goal umpire is unsure. He wasn't. There is no rule that says a field umpire has to call for a review because players are celebrating.
As others have said, there was still time for Sydney to win so you cant say definitively the Crows would've won. If it was after the siren you could.
I'm not a lawyer but presumably AFC doesn't engage with internet lawyers or Lionel Hutz and their advice is reliable.

 

[GameofSloanes]

The big giveaway was Tom Hickey trotting away from the goal square with a big cheesy grin...he knew it was a goal.

Literally everyone did except the umpire