List Mgmt. 2023 Trade Thread - Part II

[saint66au]

I'll never understand the argument that we had money to spend so why spend it. We could've literally gone after any other player but chose the guy who the entire industry knew had soft tissue concerns and was as banged up as anyone.

Gee we have made some bloody brain-dead decisions over the years. Instead of investing into the draft, we flung picks away to other clubs and obsessed over mature age over the hill types. Absolutely stupid way to rebuild the list and instead of having a core group of young kids who would be in their prime right now, we took half a dozen years to finally rebuild properly and look at how much better that's been for us. Windhager Owens Pou Nas etc from what, 1-2 drafts? Imagine if we began this years ago instead of pissing away picks for duds like Hanners.

Clearly the club , for better or worse, went down the "Sugar Hit" path for the 2020 season. Hill, Howard, Ryder etc etc. It worked in 2020, but trashed our hand for the next draft, which now looks a total bust..and backward we went. Thank God for the mid-season draft that year that scored us Heath and Coops

 

[StCicatriz]

FYI Shiel has a foot injury that is somewhat "persistent".

Essendon wont have him in preseason training until after Christmas. Modified program before that.

Not that it means much, but he's already carrying...

Now this makes a lot of sense on why essendon are so desperate to clear him off the books

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Who is “Rubbertits” ?.

This made me laugh.

Dean Kent

 

[StCicatriz]

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If we do this deal fold the club. That's ****in horrendous

 

[George]

I would rather live in reality than some absurd pompous superiority fantasy where my opinion on a footy forum matters more than anyone else, but you do you.

The Bill Belichick quote is like some cringey cult line, pushed to stop people asking why the church is so weird and dysfunctional.

This one is probably more relevant.

There are no shortcuts to building a team each season. You build the foundation brick by brick.

Shut up, I'm talking. I have a pompous counter-quote.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

I can already feel the narcissism flowing through me

 

[kernelT]

Now this makes a lot of sense on why essendon are so desperate to clear him off the books

Matt Egan?

 

[George]

Hannebery had little to no soft tissue injuries at Sydney. They all developed at St Kilda, he was cooked ever since his knock in the 2016 Grand Final to his knee.

Dumb trade but lets not make up false narratives about his injuries at St Kilda being related to his time at Sydney

Yeah that's not right. It was public knowledge that he had injury concerns leading up to us trading for him. The soft tissue injuries became more frequent in 2018 for Hanners

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/subscribe/news/1/?sourceCode=DTWEB_WRE170_a_GGL&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailytelegraph.com.au%2Fsport%2Fafl%2Fteams%2Fsydney%2Fsydney-hit-with-double-injury-blow-with-jarrad-mcveigh-to-miss-six-weeks-and-dan-hannebery-three%2Fnews-story%2F2a30fa42911e0664d28db5413b695b01&memtype=anonymous&mode=premium&v21=dynamic-groupa-test-noscore&V21spcbehaviour=append&nk=e29bdccc28a6c377fe825f832df0cc85-1695648560

 

[MightySaint]

"At the end of the day, whether or not those people are comfortable with how you're living your life doesn't matter. What matters is whether you're comfortable with it."
- Dr Phil

 

[FrogDude]

That's not correct, it was widely spoken about on this forum before the trade that there were significant injury concerns.

Played in 20+ games in all but 3 seasons for the swans with one being his first season.
He had a calf niggle in 2018 but that's about it in terms of soft tissue. It's not surprising that his form dipped significantly following the 2016 grand final after he got bashed. Even still played 15 games in 2018

 

[kernelT]

Shut up, I'm talking. I have a pompous counter-quote.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

I can already feel the narcissism flowing through me

It’s Saturday afternoon and I'm horny
And I don’t wanna get on the booze
And I don’t wanna go and watch the footy,
coz my ****ing team will probably lose… again
and I don’t wanna drink with your brothers
coz I remember that the last time I did
I woke up next morning in the gutter
They’d pinched me watch and broken two of me ribs

Kevin Bloody Wilson

 

[Dard Ball Get]

Shut up, I'm talking. I have a pompous counter-quote.

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

I can already feel the narcissism flowing through me

Here’s one for you and Joff

“I begin to speak only when I am certain what I’ll say isn’t better left unsaid”

- Cato

 

[George]

It’s Saturday afternoon and I'm horny
And I don’t wanna get on the booze
And I don’t wanna go and watch the footy,
coz my ******* team will probably lose… again
and I don’t wanna drink with your brothers
coz I remember that the last time I did
I woke up next morning in the gutter
They’d pinched me watch and broken two of me ribs

Kevin Bloody Wilson

Living in the past and shitting on the club once again. You are such a loser.

 

[Darrian Barnett]

What you're all missing about this deal is that we have a brilliant opportunity to cut out the middleman and keep Gresh AND trade our pick 12 for Sheil

 

[kernelT]

Here’s one for you and Joff

“I begin to speak only when I am certain what I’ll say isn’t better left unsaid”

- Cato

Also found this one which may resonate, if you sit with it for a while.

Started as a fart in bed well it started as a fart but i shit myself instead
And the ****ing misses going off her ****ing head
I've had an absolute campaigner of a day
and running to the dunny like a bastard trying to hold it in with me finger up me arse and skidding past the kids and them little campaigners laughing
I’ve had an absolute campaigner of a day

KBW

 

[George]

Here’s one for you and Joff

“I begin to speak only when I am certain what I’ll say isn’t better left unsaid”

- Cato

"I'm on the verge of tears by the time we arrive at Espace, since I'm positive we won't have a decent table. But we do, and relief washes over me in an awesome wave."

 

[L_W_P]

Between the Brownlow and North's hand out (which they will 100% use to trade with GC) I'm tapping out of footy for a bit I think...

So hard to process what it meant to be an equitable competition turning into such a shambles.

 

[Coconut_twirl]

Between the Brownlow and North's hand out (which they will 100% use to trade with GC) I'm tapping out of footy for a bit I think...

So hard to process what it meant to be an equitable competition turning into such a shambles.

Well let’s hope the trading a good pick for Shiel isn’t true…or there might be a number of Saints supporters tapping out of footy for a bit I think.

 

[gringo2011]

Who is “Rubbertits” ?.

This made me laugh.

Kenty

 

[Call Me Cake]

I come in peace.

How would you guys feel about,

Saints:

Shiel + our #27 + our F2 + still have your #12

Bombers:

Gresham + your compo

 

[Jade Buddha]

I come in peace.

How would you guys feel about,

Saints:

Shiel + our #27 + our F2 + still have your #12

Bombers:

Gresham + your compo

Probably not mate. Shiel isn’t high on our needs. 1st round draft picks are.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Probably not mate. Shiel isn’t high on our needs. 1st round draft picks are.

Fair enough.

In that case we pay Gresham less, and you get a pick maybe in the 30's as compo - with no Sheil, #27 and F2.

 

[wolfpac13]

Fair enough.

In that case we pay Gresham less, and you get a pick maybe in the 30's as compo - with no Sheil, #27 and F2.

It sounds as if you somehow get a say? Lol

 

[Call Me Cake]

It sounds as if you somehow get a say? Lol

Hypotheticals.

 

[magd2992]

Fair enough.

In that case we pay Gresham less, and you get a pick maybe in the 30's as compo - with no Sheil, #27 and F2.

Hi Cake

That escalated quickly.

Regards,
Sponge

 

[jwint43]

The irony lmao. Conveniently leaving out that Hannebery's body was completely cooked and only managed 15 games the year before he came to us after routinely playing 20+ throughout his career before that.

We waited 14 rounds due to soft tissue injuries before he made his debut in 2019 and we all know the history after that.

You speak of him like he was still a world beater when we traded for him. He wasn't, he was a shell of the player he used to be. Would be good to give a fair assessment of the situation rather than ignore the type of player he was at the end of 2018. There's a reason a good club like Sydney got rid of him.

It was a s**t trade, signs of a desperate loser club. For all the garbage about his 'leadership', the guys off-field behaviour was suspect to say the least, and we didn't do any better on-field by bringing him in. He wasn't some impetus of our climb into finals in 2020 (guy played 8 games lol) and we missed finals in 3 of the 4 years he was there. No new leaders came through under his watch, in fact in 2023 it's been the young blokes who have shown signs of leadership that we haven't had in years. We should've gone to the draft and rebuilt properly - we would've had more of these Owens, Pou, Windhager types by now if we did, instead of pissing about with injury ravaged players who don't take care of themselves.

You're 100% right. Never thought i'd see revisitionist history/nostalgia for Dan Hannerbery but here we are. He was shot when we brought him in and it was an absolute joke that we gave him that contract