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Rumour GFC 2023 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt II
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Foster won't make it.
Even Neale is borderline, but think he can contribute at AFL level as is proven at VFL.
Too many on here creamin their panties over Lord.
Now, I'd probably recruit just based on Father Son prospects. His kids will be athletic and good looking lol. Does that translate to Future Alpha Males and Sports Super Stars? haha
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Rule me out, wouldn't know how to use Instabook
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That's just nonsense, his 1962 season was absolutely dominant; the only problem with his votes tally was that it should have been higher, because of the 9 times he got 2 votes, at least some should have been 3s.
Remember how every post about Sav in this thread was we were going to just take their late second… we’d just take.. it. You and I respectfully argued quite a bit about how it’d play out… I said there’d be no way we take that snd we’d ask for a lot.
Well we just rejected 24.
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But who has actually gone public, the media have said it but we havent come out and said anything about Lord that im aware of.
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Is it possible that the Hawkins situation was due to the fact that we were talking to Lord, maybe hawk wanted 2 years and we told him no that will be Lords position in 2025.
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Hadn't considered that, but it might have some merit. The Cats would want both Ollie and Shannon to be getting weekly games by 2025 if this was to eventuate.
If anyone thinks that's ridiculous, read Stevie J's book. They pushed him out with the likes of Kersten & McCarthy in mind.
Neither here nor there, but just saying it wouldn't be a ludicrous idea if it was true.
Lord can run, but he's no Stanley, Rohan or Danger in the speed department. But yes, he can run for sure. As for marking, you'd struggle to see many pack marks from him, actually his marking is ordinary for a big guy - as in Average to Below Average in that department. His marking is a downgrade on Jezza... In many ways Ollie is more like a Jezza style forward. But maybe that's it, if we have Neale as the Hawkins replacement, then Lord is the Jezza replacment. Both massive downgrades tbh but serviceable until we get something high end there, but what do I know really.
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Big question is though does anyone actually think that Port will roll over and give us Lord, i personally dont see it happening, from all reports they rate him very highly at Port.
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Right now, we've got two of the best of all time at their position in the forward half, and it's not an exaggeration to say that.
We're pretty lucky, and just about anything after that would be a 'downgrade' in that respect.
Just feel like you're being a bit unfair on the kids, they couldn't do much more with what they've had so far, and key forwards do take time.
For instance, 20 year old Tom Hawkins would be seen as a massive downgrade if he was the current Hawkins replacement.
I can't think of a key forward in the game right now who I'd reliably have as 'The Hawkins replacement', he's just that damn good. Even the Max King's of the world come with their own set of issues.
Then you've got the likes of McDonald, Jamarra etc who Ollie Henry has already outperformed while playing as a sub. It's a tough gig playing as a young tall.
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I think we are doing pretty well just to get 24 IMO, let alone another contracted player.
I don't think they let him go after that final, they have Dixon who is battered and on his last legs, Todd Marshall who was a deer in headlights late in the year/finals and I thought "hey, maybe he comes good he is only 21" but turns out Marshall just hit 25.
Finlayson and Marshall carried their KPF goalkicking this year and Finlayson got dropped in finals, Marshall kicked 2 goals in each final but was very underwhelming in both their losses, Dixon contributed with 20 odd goals in 14 games but the style he plays there is no guarantee you get more then 15 games out of him next year.
I think they would be very keen on keeping Lord and pumping more games into him next season.
As for Sydney, can't believe how cheap they have gotten Grundy.
Adams and Grundy put Swans top 6 contending top 4 with those two additions assuming they both stay fit. I would have said lock for top 4 but that depends just on how badly Mills has genked himself.
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Lord would have to demonstrate an improvement on his work to date to take Hawks spot. I would rather play a Cameron/Henry/Dempsey combo of he's going to be kicking like this
Check out Ollie Lord's Highlights from PORT v WCE, Rd 6 2023
Note: click "extended" so they don't hide the howlers
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I don't know how the Lord thing will work out, but I do admire that Mackie is a hardass at the negotiations. That was my minor criticism of Geelong when Wells was in charge, the club often rolled over too easily in trade negotiations like the Sav one. I like that Mackie is not just giving Sav away just because he wants to leave. If Port wants Sav that badly, then pay us what we want.
This song is about Watson in the draft... Translation = You are small. Lol
But then it goes on about blowing dough in clubs and so on... anyway, good party song... Maybe some Geelong Croats Serbs or Maco's will understand it lol.
If Watson gets selected, this will be his anthem. haha
Please don't google lyrics and translate though haha, there are some other messages in there lol. Just enjoy some Alpha Party melody in a foreign language. haha
But then it goes on about blowing dough in clubs and so on... anyway, good party song... Maybe some Geelong Croats Serbs or Maco's will understand it lol.
If Watson gets selected, this will be his anthem. haha
Please don't google lyrics and translate though haha, there are some other messages in there lol. Just enjoy some Alpha Party melody in a foreign language. haha
Been saying this from the start
I know some on here bagged Hawkins as a 20-21 year old. But when I watched him play against the Demons in his first season and kicked 4 goals 1 behind, with 5 marks, I thought wow, this kid will be a superstar and never doubted since. The only think I cursed in his career was when Geelong kept throwing him into the ruck particularly in 2010-2011. I mean, do you even remember the size of Hawkins as a 19yo in 2007? The kid was a man mountain and out wrestling grown men.
For me with Key Forwards, if they are not consistent at goal kicking and/or contested marking - which I must say Ollie Lord fails on both there, then high chances they won't make it at AFL level. Ryhs Stanley 2.0, but Ryhs Stanley is taller and can somewhat ruck. Best upside for Ollie Lord is Finlayson, which is a poorman's Jezza, and not a bad player either. But do you rather take pick 24 instead and try and get George Stevens who is a proven ball hog at VFL level already, or a sliding outside mid... You might find this option is higher probability to make it.
Anyway, I trust Wells and Mackie. They will have a better idea. They would've asked for Lord and 24, and we give them something back like a F3 with Esava, I bet that's how they valued the trade. And you never know with Port, they are in the window and desperate to close some holes on their Best 22 and Lord is probably surplus for them in the next 1-2 years anyway.
I want that Pick 24, more than I want Lord. There will be sliders like George Stevens or Charlie Edwards, or even ZZ, who are all more natural footballers and can probably peak higher in their respective roles. Key Forward is a tough gig, you really need cream of the crop there or someone like Mooney or Mihochek, both a bit of mongrel or can bring ball to ground and get others in it.
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It begs the question, have you been an undercover Murdoch operator this whole time?
We have a double agent!!!
Blasphemy!
(but I kinda am in a way, given I access to all his shit, without paying a cent for it - sucked in you giant fossil
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Same page.
I described him as "flash in the pan", that's what he is at the moment. And he might be more than that in the future, but I honestly think he's 3rd rounder in trade value tbh.
Tbh, if Cats think Pick 24 (as it is now) isn't enough, and they are holding firm on a first round pick valuation for Esava then shifting it to 24+Lord for Esava +F3 is something Port can facilitate in the absence of a first or future first. It might look like we won that trade if it happens, but, it's Port that is in the window and need to fill a hole in their Best 22. That comes at a price.
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Was very close to delist and only got a 1 year extension. If Port rates him that's only been recently.
Hopeless at every level except for that 1 game
Port fans will burn down the Alberton stand if they agree to that deal.
I'll gibe then the matches Ollie will be in the HOOPS next year
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