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List Mgmt. 2023 Trade & List Management Thread III
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You got me, it is all speculation.
When I look at the rankings I'd love to see us welcome any of Ollie Murphy, James Leake, Archer Reid, Archie Roberts, Tew Jiath, or Mitch Edwards selected by the Roos in that area (I've ignored mids, just because of where we are with mids quantity wise).
The higher we pick in the order, it can be assumed a higher chance to make it as 100+ game player but every player selected is on equal footing when they get to a club and then it's about rolling your sleeves up and making a fist of it.
Coming back to Archer Reid, obviously we aren't talking about the King twins here but if he rolled up his sleeves and worked hard he could become one of the 200+ cm kids with agility that don't grow on trees.
Would be interesting to retrospect on how deep each draft was reported to be and then look at what it actually was in the last decade.
AFL players are made by effort they put in when they get to the club, fortunate with injuries, and the quality of development. The draft is just the opportunity to select prospects with attributes that could make them good at AFL footy.
Guns can be found anywhere in the draft, how shallow was the draft when Larkey, Papley, and Zurhaar were picked late or in the rookie draft?
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If that's the path the club wants to go down, then great. They'll have views on the capabilities of all those players.
It seems we're keen to move up though. As are a lot of teams. To me, that says something about the reality of the situation.
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Not sure we can get that done without going into next year's picks
Crikey he's a dick. He had his chance to give his views to Brady and sat there like a muppet.
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Really just a fancy way of saying they have to be traded.
The AFL have given us every chance to picked ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and get competitive in the short term. Personally I'm really excited about this, especially getting two ready made players as a result who both fit list needs.
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I wonder if this lends weight to the idea we’re into Reid and Watson. I suppose Sanders is more palatable at 5/6 too.
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the bloke's an intellectual coward - I don't know why our people talk to him. I nearly choked when Rawlings called him 'Damo', like we're all mates
Damo is spineless.
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It also says to materially increase our on field performance which basically means this would be an issue only if we made finals. Now let's be honest here Damo...
Rawlings seems to give the indication of wanting to trade up, and after turning the diabolical situation JHF with pick 1 to Wardlaw, Sheezel + teens pick this draft he has runs on the board of knowing what he is doing.
Of teams trading up, the Dees likely have a specific player in mind given they are largely built as a squad. The Hawks wanted to give up pick 4 so you could argue they see the draft as only 3 players deep or that one is so far above and beyond.
As for the Eagles and ourselves, we have needs all over the place so should be approaching the draft with a different mindset to other teams.
It's all part of playing the game. The clubs know exactly what the media are like, and don't trust them at all. But they recognise that they do play an important role in the footy landscape and telling them what you really think of them or treating them with the contempt that they deserve is likely to be counterproductive in the long term.
It's a bit like the players laughing with the umpires and patting them on the bum after the game. It's distasteful, but it might serve a long term purpose.
I'm just not sure you fill needs by picking players you don't think are that good just to tick a positional box.
It's seems we have a desire to trade up. If that is the case, I hope we can pull it off.
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Cal Twomey's October phantom is out. Just push our later picks out according to the academy picks and F/S
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A lingering knee injury from the end of Bendigo's season meant Reid didn't test at the Draft Combine but it didn't stop him from endearing himself further to clubs. Reid's interviews were well received and his popularity and presence within the pool shone through, all part of the overall package for the No.1 pick. Reid plays with a similar 'follow me' style – he breaks open games, wants the moment, takes on opponents, has physicality and kicks big goals. The hype has existed for a reason and he's handled it superbly through the year, with the midfielder/forward an ultra-exciting prospect.
It is hard to recall a key forward coming through the draft with the same attributes as Walter, whose fanatical chasing, tackling and pack-crashing will complement the Gold Coast forward line, where he is destined to end up through the club's Academy. A bid will come on Walter in the early selections, with the powerful key forward having dominated this season with the Suns' Academy and also for the Allies, who he spearheaded to their under-18 championship title. He marks well, collects the ball at ground level and is a threat via a number of different means.
Duursma was one of the few very best prospects in the land to test at the Draft Combine, having finished his season with Gippsland Power several weeks before. His standout performance was in the running vertical jump, where he came second with a 97cm leap. It is a skill that comes through in his game, with Duursma liking floating in for high marks and being hard to beat on the lead. The Power leader kicked 33 goals this season from 12 games, after booting 31 last year as a bottom-ager. He's all class, a beautiful finisher and a highlights reel that can impact games in a number of ways.
McKercher returned from a foot injury to play in Tasmania's preliminary final defeat to the Eastern Ranges at the end of the Coates Talent League after some time out with a foot injury, with the gun midfielder gathering 20 disposals and kicking a goal. He didn't complete Combine testing because of the foot injury, but recruiters are well aware of his skillset, with the classy and speedy left-footer having a brilliant season that saw him be a joint winner of the Morrish Medal after averaging 29 disposals and a goal for the Devils. A game-changer through the midfield who has confidence in his style.
Across his different teams this year – Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro, AFL Academy and Caulfield Grammar – Watson kicked more than 70 goals, a phenomenal return whichever way you slice it for a small forward. The exciting talent can produce moments from nothing, kick goals from anywhere and light up a game with his wizardry inside 50, but spent a chunk of the end of the year playing on the wing and further up the ground. Watson hurt his ankle in Eastern's Grand Final defeat, where he had 20 disposals and a goal, and had his leg in a moonboot at the Combine so did not take part in the testing.
Curtin missed testing at the Draft Combine with a hamstring strain he suffered in Claremont's colts Grand Final win. In that game, he gathered 23 disposals and five marks, having returned to under-18 level following a run of six straight appearances in the club's senior WAFL side. The left-footer is a versatile tall who has shown through the year he can play as a key back and forward and even as a powerful midfielder.
Another top prospect who sat out the Combine, Sanders did not test due to a hip issue. It will have no impact on his draft placing, having shown throughout the whole year his incredible consistency and production as a midfielder in the group. Sanders capped his season with 25 disposals and four clearances in Sandringham's Grand Final win over the Eastern Ranges, when he had some key moments as he always does. Sanders averaged 31 disposals at that level to go with his Larke Medal in the under-18 carnival in a complete campaign.
Caddy's movement for a player his size was on show at the Combine, when he finished in the top 10 for the agility test (completing it in 8.331 seconds). He was one of only two key position players in that ranking. The strong marking tall forward had an exciting season amid some injury and illness interruptions, kicking 25 goals in nine games for the Northern Knights. He had some dominant games where he was unstoppable in the air and dangerous in a number of ways, while also playing some midfield time at stages as well.
A ‘wow' moment came early in the Draft Combine, when Read completed the 2km time trial in 5:56 minutes, an eye-catching run for a player of his size and skills. It highlighted what recruiters have seen all year from Read – he has midfield traits but is 200cm, he can run and run but also kick the ball well and be a marking forward target when not in the ruck. The hype and interest in Read would be at another level if he wasn't tied to Gold Coast through its Academy, with an early bid expected.
The tall defender played just about everywhere through this season, including spots in the midfield and forward line, but he will be selected as a marking, intercepting backman who can read the play and control a game from the back half. He did that through the Allies' national carnival, where he was a big force to their success. O'Sullivan finished his season with the Murray Bushrangers and then competed in the Draft Combine, where he came eighth in the 2km time trial, running 6:11 minutes.
Windsor had already been creeping up draft boards but he solidified his place as a potential pick right around the top 10 with his starring performances at the Draft Combine. The Eastern Ranges' runner came third in the 20-metre sprint (2.916 seconds) and placed in the top 10 for the standing vertical jump (73cm) and running vertical jump (92cm) events as well, showing his mix of athleticism and pure speed. The polished goalkicking midfielder also ran 6:35 minutes in the 2km time trial.
A hamstring strain stopped Leake from testing at the Draft Combine. The versatile Tasmanian has been a surprise packet across the year and shown he can play in a range of different spots and make an impact. He was a huge factor in Tasmania's push to the Coates Talent League preliminary final and was also named an All-Australian after the Allies' title win. Kicked five goals late in the season with the Devils and has spring in his legs to fly for marks but can also set up the play across half-back.
Croft has committed officially to joining the Western Bulldogs as a father-son selection, which is a big factor in the Dogs outbidding rivals to get a hold of Gold Coast's No.5 pick. It means they will get a top selection in before the bid comes for Croft, a tall and athletic forward who showed some real promise through the year. At his size, Croft has shown he can get a mark on the lead and convert his shots and he will be given time to develop at the Dogs. He finished fourth overall in the Combine's 2km time trial with a 6:05 minute run.
It was a consistent season from Rogers, which is what you come to expect from how the Gold Coast Academy talent plays his footy. A smaller midfielder who likely starts as a small forward at AFL level, Rogers tackles hard, works up and down the ground and is clean with the ball. He played some VFL games with the Suns late in the year after being named an All-Australian for his efforts at the under-18 championships.
Wilson was a standout of the Draft Combine testing across a range of events, showing his genuine upside with those traits. He came second overall in the 2km time trial (running 5:52 minutes), finished in the top 10 for the agility (8.263 seconds) and the standing vertical jump (76cm) and won the running vertical jump test (98cm). It showed what recruiters have seen from him throughout the year in his performances as a lively midfielder/forward.
Recruiters were impressed by Tholstrup's season, particularly his commitment to his role at senior level for Subiaco in their forward line. The forward/midfielder enjoyed a strong carnival for Western Australia and plays with some physicality and strength. He matched it with senior opposition through the season and will do the same early in his AFL career.
Collard's end to the season – back-to-back hauls of five goals in Subiaco's colts finals – as well as his excellent testing at the Draft Combine has pushed him up the Form Guide. The exciting forward can make something from nothing and kick goals, having booted 32 majors from 11 games at colts level this season. He then was the quickest in the agility test at the Combine (8.157 seconds), was fourth in the 20-metre sprint (2.92 seconds) and also ran the 2km time trial in 6:32 minutes to show his all-round athleticism and spark.
Hardeman showed he has a strong pace and endurance blend at the Combine, running a three-second 20-metre sprint and a 6:35 minute 2km time trial. The attacking half-back had a consistent season at different levels and captained Western Australia at the under-18 carnival. He can rebound and likes to create from defence.
It was a frustrating second half of the season for McCabe, who developed a stress injury in his foot after the national carnival. He spent some time on the sidelines before returning in Central District's under-18s finals series. However, after returning, he dealt with some groin and adductor soreness that has made for a management program in recent weeks, including sitting out testing at the Combine. The intercepting tall defender is tied to Hawthorn as a father-son, where his dad Luke played and is now a board member.
It was an impressive 2km time trial from the tall defender at the Combine, with Murphy completing it in 6:18 minutes. Murphy is a key back who can mark and has confidence in the air and has also played as a pinch-hitting ruck at different stages through his campaign. The left-footer makes good decisions with the ball and was a key part of Vic Metro's defence at the carnival.
Clubs were impressed by DeMattia at the Combine, not only his testing resume (he finished in the top 10 for the 20-metre sprint with a dash of 2.996 seconds) but also his interviews. The Vic Country co-captain has played a number of different spots through the year – some see him as a midfielder, others view him as a small back at the next level.
Roberts was rapt with his 2km time trial result at the Combine, running 6:08 minutes to finish in seventh position. It showed his strong endurance base, with the left-footed half-back a player who sizes up his opportunities in defence and likes to take the game on. He directs traffic from half-back and was a premiership player with the Sandringham Dragons last year and this season, as well as claiming Haileybury College's best and fairest in a flag year.
Jiath didn't get enough nominations to be in the initial national Draft Combine list but if it had been another month he would have been selected, given the exciting half-back's finish to the season. He did complete testing for the state screening though, when he ran 6:32 minutes for the 2km time trial. The younger brother of Hawthorn's Changkuoth, Jiath is also Next Generation Academy listed for the Hawks but is expected to be selected before they get access to him at No.40 onwards. A marking interceptor in the back half who streams forward.
Another player who tested in the state screening but looks likely to be a top 30 draft consideration for clubs. The 191cm midfielder ticks a few boxes for clubs: his size is an asset in how he plays, he has spent time across half-back as well, he has a good aerobic base (6:24 minutes in the 2km time trial) and he has kept on improving as the season wore on. His dash from the middle for Sandringham in its run to the premiership caught the eye of scouts.
Green is one of three rucks all similarly rated in terms of their long-term status, but all different. Green rose to be among the best big men in his crop with a solid season for the Knights and Vic Metro, including some impressive games in the Coates Talent League later in the year. He completed the 2km time trial in 6:34 minutes at the Combine, ranking him alongside many of the midfield options as well.
It was an impressive testing display from Edwards at the Combine, where he finished in the top five for the standing vertical jump (78cm) and running vertical jump (94cm), as well as doing the 20-metre sprint in 3.0 seconds. Edwards is tied to Fremantle under the NGA program but the Dockers will only get access to matching a bid for him if he gets past the first 40 selections.
The younger brother of Essendon's Zach is mainly positioned at the other end of the field to his backman sibling, with Archer a key forward who can go into the ruck. His kicking skills are excellent for a player his size and although he didn't have a monster patch of form through the year, he remains a forward/ruck option for clubs searching for players to fill that valuable role.
Stevens is a unique player in the pool given his mature frame but his outstanding output in the second half of the season in particular. The midfielder, who captained the AFL Academy earlier this year, came back from a knee reconstruction he underwent in 2022 and started this year across half-back. But he really got going as an inside midfield and clearance specialist for the Rebels and also with Geelong's VFL team, where he impressed, including having 29 disposals against Collingwood.
Gothard has some real pizzazz about his game. As a small forward he can pop up and hit the scoreboard, he reads the game well and he is confident around goal. He was a standout at the Combine testing, running the 20-metre sprint in 2.963 seconds and then finishing second in the standing vertical jump (78cm) and clubs like his ability to influence inside 50 without amassing big numbers of the ball.
It is hard to know where ruckmen will actually get picked in the draft by clubs given they are often a needs dependant selection, but Goad is the third ruckman in this ranking based on his upside. The South Australian big man is fast – he clocked 2.92 seconds earlier in the year at his state testing over 20 metres and did 2.96 seconds at the Combine this month. He was also in the top 10 for the standing vertical jump. The former basketballer has all the athletic attributes to be taking the eye of recruiters.
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A lingering knee injury from the end of Bendigo's season meant Reid didn't test at the Draft Combine but it didn't stop him from endearing himself further to clubs. Reid's interviews were well received and his popularity and presence within the pool shone through, all part of the overall package for the No.1 pick. Reid plays with a similar 'follow me' style – he breaks open games, wants the moment, takes on opponents, has physicality and kicks big goals. The hype has existed for a reason and he's handled it superbly through the year, with the midfielder/forward an ultra-exciting prospect.
It is hard to recall a key forward coming through the draft with the same attributes as Walter, whose fanatical chasing, tackling and pack-crashing will complement the Gold Coast forward line, where he is destined to end up through the club's Academy. A bid will come on Walter in the early selections, with the powerful key forward having dominated this season with the Suns' Academy and also for the Allies, who he spearheaded to their under-18 championship title. He marks well, collects the ball at ground level and is a threat via a number of different means.
Duursma was one of the few very best prospects in the land to test at the Draft Combine, having finished his season with Gippsland Power several weeks before. His standout performance was in the running vertical jump, where he came second with a 97cm leap. It is a skill that comes through in his game, with Duursma liking floating in for high marks and being hard to beat on the lead. The Power leader kicked 33 goals this season from 12 games, after booting 31 last year as a bottom-ager. He's all class, a beautiful finisher and a highlights reel that can impact games in a number of ways.
McKercher returned from a foot injury to play in Tasmania's preliminary final defeat to the Eastern Ranges at the end of the Coates Talent League after some time out with a foot injury, with the gun midfielder gathering 20 disposals and kicking a goal. He didn't complete Combine testing because of the foot injury, but recruiters are well aware of his skillset, with the classy and speedy left-footer having a brilliant season that saw him be a joint winner of the Morrish Medal after averaging 29 disposals and a goal for the Devils. A game-changer through the midfield who has confidence in his style.
Across his different teams this year – Eastern Ranges, Vic Metro, AFL Academy and Caulfield Grammar – Watson kicked more than 70 goals, a phenomenal return whichever way you slice it for a small forward. The exciting talent can produce moments from nothing, kick goals from anywhere and light up a game with his wizardry inside 50, but spent a chunk of the end of the year playing on the wing and further up the ground. Watson hurt his ankle in Eastern's Grand Final defeat, where he had 20 disposals and a goal, and had his leg in a moonboot at the Combine so did not take part in the testing.
Curtin missed testing at the Draft Combine with a hamstring strain he suffered in Claremont's colts Grand Final win. In that game, he gathered 23 disposals and five marks, having returned to under-18 level following a run of six straight appearances in the club's senior WAFL side. The left-footer is a versatile tall who has shown through the year he can play as a key back and forward and even as a powerful midfielder.
Another top prospect who sat out the Combine, Sanders did not test due to a hip issue. It will have no impact on his draft placing, having shown throughout the whole year his incredible consistency and production as a midfielder in the group. Sanders capped his season with 25 disposals and four clearances in Sandringham's Grand Final win over the Eastern Ranges, when he had some key moments as he always does. Sanders averaged 31 disposals at that level to go with his Larke Medal in the under-18 carnival in a complete campaign.
Caddy's movement for a player his size was on show at the Combine, when he finished in the top 10 for the agility test (completing it in 8.331 seconds). He was one of only two key position players in that ranking. The strong marking tall forward had an exciting season amid some injury and illness interruptions, kicking 25 goals in nine games for the Northern Knights. He had some dominant games where he was unstoppable in the air and dangerous in a number of ways, while also playing some midfield time at stages as well.
A ‘wow' moment came early in the Draft Combine, when Read completed the 2km time trial in 5:56 minutes, an eye-catching run for a player of his size and skills. It highlighted what recruiters have seen all year from Read – he has midfield traits but is 200cm, he can run and run but also kick the ball well and be a marking forward target when not in the ruck. The hype and interest in Read would be at another level if he wasn't tied to Gold Coast through its Academy, with an early bid expected.
The tall defender played just about everywhere through this season, including spots in the midfield and forward line, but he will be selected as a marking, intercepting backman who can read the play and control a game from the back half. He did that through the Allies' national carnival, where he was a big force to their success. O'Sullivan finished his season with the Murray Bushrangers and then competed in the Draft Combine, where he came eighth in the 2km time trial, running 6:11 minutes.
Windsor had already been creeping up draft boards but he solidified his place as a potential pick right around the top 10 with his starring performances at the Draft Combine. The Eastern Ranges' runner came third in the 20-metre sprint (2.916 seconds) and placed in the top 10 for the standing vertical jump (73cm) and running vertical jump (92cm) events as well, showing his mix of athleticism and pure speed. The polished goalkicking midfielder also ran 6:35 minutes in the 2km time trial.
A hamstring strain stopped Leake from testing at the Draft Combine. The versatile Tasmanian has been a surprise packet across the year and shown he can play in a range of different spots and make an impact. He was a huge factor in Tasmania's push to the Coates Talent League preliminary final and was also named an All-Australian after the Allies' title win. Kicked five goals late in the season with the Devils and has spring in his legs to fly for marks but can also set up the play across half-back.
Croft has committed officially to joining the Western Bulldogs as a father-son selection, which is a big factor in the Dogs outbidding rivals to get a hold of Gold Coast's No.5 pick. It means they will get a top selection in before the bid comes for Croft, a tall and athletic forward who showed some real promise through the year. At his size, Croft has shown he can get a mark on the lead and convert his shots and he will be given time to develop at the Dogs. He finished fourth overall in the Combine's 2km time trial with a 6:05 minute run.
It was a consistent season from Rogers, which is what you come to expect from how the Gold Coast Academy talent plays his footy. A smaller midfielder who likely starts as a small forward at AFL level, Rogers tackles hard, works up and down the ground and is clean with the ball. He played some VFL games with the Suns late in the year after being named an All-Australian for his efforts at the under-18 championships.
Wilson was a standout of the Draft Combine testing across a range of events, showing his genuine upside with those traits. He came second overall in the 2km time trial (running 5:52 minutes), finished in the top 10 for the agility (8.263 seconds) and the standing vertical jump (76cm) and won the running vertical jump test (98cm). It showed what recruiters have seen from him throughout the year in his performances as a lively midfielder/forward.
Recruiters were impressed by Tholstrup's season, particularly his commitment to his role at senior level for Subiaco in their forward line. The forward/midfielder enjoyed a strong carnival for Western Australia and plays with some physicality and strength. He matched it with senior opposition through the season and will do the same early in his AFL career.
Collard's end to the season – back-to-back hauls of five goals in Subiaco's colts finals – as well as his excellent testing at the Draft Combine has pushed him up the Form Guide. The exciting forward can make something from nothing and kick goals, having booted 32 majors from 11 games at colts level this season. He then was the quickest in the agility test at the Combine (8.157 seconds), was fourth in the 20-metre sprint (2.92 seconds) and also ran the 2km time trial in 6:32 minutes to show his all-round athleticism and spark.
Hardeman showed he has a strong pace and endurance blend at the Combine, running a three-second 20-metre sprint and a 6:35 minute 2km time trial. The attacking half-back had a consistent season at different levels and captained Western Australia at the under-18 carnival. He can rebound and likes to create from defence.
It was a frustrating second half of the season for McCabe, who developed a stress injury in his foot after the national carnival. He spent some time on the sidelines before returning in Central District's under-18s finals series. However, after returning, he dealt with some groin and adductor soreness that has made for a management program in recent weeks, including sitting out testing at the Combine. The intercepting tall defender is tied to Hawthorn as a father-son, where his dad Luke played and is now a board member.
It was an impressive 2km time trial from the tall defender at the Combine, with Murphy completing it in 6:18 minutes. Murphy is a key back who can mark and has confidence in the air and has also played as a pinch-hitting ruck at different stages through his campaign. The left-footer makes good decisions with the ball and was a key part of Vic Metro's defence at the carnival.
Clubs were impressed by DeMattia at the Combine, not only his testing resume (he finished in the top 10 for the 20-metre sprint with a dash of 2.996 seconds) but also his interviews. The Vic Country co-captain has played a number of different spots through the year – some see him as a midfielder, others view him as a small back at the next level.
Roberts was rapt with his 2km time trial result at the Combine, running 6:08 minutes to finish in seventh position. It showed his strong endurance base, with the left-footed half-back a player who sizes up his opportunities in defence and likes to take the game on. He directs traffic from half-back and was a premiership player with the Sandringham Dragons last year and this season, as well as claiming Haileybury College's best and fairest in a flag year.
Jiath didn't get enough nominations to be in the initial national Draft Combine list but if it had been another month he would have been selected, given the exciting half-back's finish to the season. He did complete testing for the state screening though, when he ran 6:32 minutes for the 2km time trial. The younger brother of Hawthorn's Changkuoth, Jiath is also Next Generation Academy listed for the Hawks but is expected to be selected before they get access to him at No.40 onwards. A marking interceptor in the back half who streams forward.
Another player who tested in the state screening but looks likely to be a top 30 draft consideration for clubs. The 191cm midfielder ticks a few boxes for clubs: his size is an asset in how he plays, he has spent time across half-back as well, he has a good aerobic base (6:24 minutes in the 2km time trial) and he has kept on improving as the season wore on. His dash from the middle for Sandringham in its run to the premiership caught the eye of scouts.
Green is one of three rucks all similarly rated in terms of their long-term status, but all different. Green rose to be among the best big men in his crop with a solid season for the Knights and Vic Metro, including some impressive games in the Coates Talent League later in the year. He completed the 2km time trial in 6:34 minutes at the Combine, ranking him alongside many of the midfield options as well.
It was an impressive testing display from Edwards at the Combine, where he finished in the top five for the standing vertical jump (78cm) and running vertical jump (94cm), as well as doing the 20-metre sprint in 3.0 seconds. Edwards is tied to Fremantle under the NGA program but the Dockers will only get access to matching a bid for him if he gets past the first 40 selections.
The younger brother of Essendon's Zach is mainly positioned at the other end of the field to his backman sibling, with Archer a key forward who can go into the ruck. His kicking skills are excellent for a player his size and although he didn't have a monster patch of form through the year, he remains a forward/ruck option for clubs searching for players to fill that valuable role.
Stevens is a unique player in the pool given his mature frame but his outstanding output in the second half of the season in particular. The midfielder, who captained the AFL Academy earlier this year, came back from a knee reconstruction he underwent in 2022 and started this year across half-back. But he really got going as an inside midfield and clearance specialist for the Rebels and also with Geelong's VFL team, where he impressed, including having 29 disposals against Collingwood.
Gothard has some real pizzazz about his game. As a small forward he can pop up and hit the scoreboard, he reads the game well and he is confident around goal. He was a standout at the Combine testing, running the 20-metre sprint in 2.963 seconds and then finishing second in the standing vertical jump (78cm) and clubs like his ability to influence inside 50 without amassing big numbers of the ball.
It is hard to know where ruckmen will actually get picked in the draft by clubs given they are often a needs dependant selection, but Goad is the third ruckman in this ranking based on his upside. The South Australian big man is fast – he clocked 2.92 seconds earlier in the year at his state testing over 20 metres and did 2.96 seconds at the Combine this month. He was also in the top 10 for the standing vertical jump. The former basketballer has all the athletic attributes to be taking the eye of recruiters.
Probably hurts Barrett more that the club outwardly acts ambivalent to his constant sniping.
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I read this one and almost felt sorry for him. Imagine being such a bitter, miserable pissant to have to continually flog the same regurgitated negative "it's not fair" "what about this" cr@p every single week.
The future picks were never going to be reviewed as they were always going to be traded this year. It was a "use it or lose it" situation, Gil said as much when talking about it on 360.
Absolutely disingenuous to suggest that there is something underhand about the AFL signing-off on the trades and that they will now turn a "blind-eye" to reviewing them, they clarified when they were given, that it only applied if we were still holding them.
What's his IF/THEN going to be in three years time...
"IF Harry Sheezel looked ecstatic as the youngest ever AFL premiership captain on the dias with his coach Alastair Clarkson on Saturday.... THEN surely some of that joy is tainted by the fact the AFL never fully reviewed those future assistance picks several years ago...."
Miserable pr!ck!
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I'd like 2 first rounders next year we're already loaded up this year
Probably not really for this thread, but that's two weeks in a row he's said a 200cm 31yo with stuffed feet (& fkd knees too apparently?) is going to be the answer to Richmond's problems
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I'm not sure exactly why Geelong are trading a top 10 pick for those two late firsts tbh.
I also reckon West Coast want two top ten picks for 1
Geelong just two better than one and some say once get past 6-7 it equals out.... and yes agree wc will prob want two top tens
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