Rumour Jeremy Finlayson under investigation - 3 game suspension

[Footy_Fan2007]

What a w***er.

What exactly did he say and who did he say it to? (I’m nosy )

You can’t say that! You can’t use that word. You’ve offended me now. I’ll be reporting this post and hope it gets resolved asap.

 

[Bjo187]

Wow, a lot of white, male, hetero privilege vibes in this thread.

That's a bit of selective discrimination if I've ever seen it.

 

[M Malice]

Not quite the burn you seem to think it is mate

Yes that was my point, I didn't take it as a slur at all but I am certain that was the intent of my X's sister and the X for even telling me.

 

[Yellow Feathers]

Get it over it I reckon what happened to our great game

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Wow, a lot of white, male, hetero privilege vibes in this thread.

Omg stfu.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Pretty silly thing to do really, I don’t necessarily think JF is a homophobe, but punishment is required. A week or two and a donation to charity - pride cup?

 

[SAweagle]

Yes that was my point, I didn't take it as a slur at all but I am certain that was the intent of my X's sister and the X for even telling me.

To be fair, a woman's " gaydar " is normally very accurate. Perhaps it wasn't intended as a slur, more as gentle encouragement to be yourself.

 

[iameviljez]

Not quite the burn you seem to think it is mate

It’s not meant to be a burn, it’s meant to be self deprecating and laughing it off.

 

[SAweagle]

It’s not meant to be a burn, it’s meant to be self deprecating and laughing it off.

Is it mate ? Thanks for your commentary.

 

[RandB]

Players say things on the footy field for a multitude of reasons. Frustration, retaliation, psychological edge. If it is racial or, in this case a gay slur, the AFL generally applies a strong community standard as most professional codes do.

Labelling Finlayson homophobic is a moot point tbh. He might be, he might not be but he certainly lowered his colours by the sound of it.

My understanding is he told a trainer what he said and trainer told him to apologise. Was he genuinely remorseful or worried about getting rubbed out or both? None of us know.

 

[iameviljez]

Is it mate ? Thanks for your commentary.

My absolute pleasure. Please come again

 

[M Malice]

To be fair, a woman's " gaydar " is normally very accurate. Perhaps it wasn't intended as a slur, more as gentle encouragement to be yourself.

Love it, good one weagle.

 

[Spearman]

The AFL or maybe a federal body need to come up with a definite list of slurs and the group they harm that must not be uttered in public, sort like the '7 words you cannot say on TV'.

So would calling someone a 'cs' be homophobic? or a 'mf' be implying someone was incestuous?
How about calling someone 'soft'. Can you be sanctioned for implying they have PED and is that a vilification?
How about vilifying someone without using specific unacceptable terms? or if the 'victim' actually couldn't give a stuff and genuinely laughs at it?

My point is, it can be difficult to say what is and is not a slur. Especially when a particular slur is used within the victimized community themselves. Is it possible to have a definite list and boundary that can be used to adjudicate these things, or will it always be a subjective situation?

 

[Toump Ass]

Get it over it I reckon what happened to our great game

How does outlawing homophobic slurs really affect our “great game” lmao

 

[SuperMal]

My absolute pleasure. Please come again

Do you find it that hard to comprehend that your intrusion on the discussion btwn Malice and SAweagle is neither required or wanted?

Sheesh! Talk about NO filter.

 

[Toump Ass]

My point is, it can be difficult to say what is and is not a slur.

Wrong.

It’s actually quite easy for people with functioning brains.

 

[iameviljez]

Do you find it that hard to comprehend that your intrusion on the discussion btwn Malice and SAweagle is neither required or wanted?

Sheesh! Talk about NO filter.

It’s an internet forum. No invitation is required to participate. If anyone wants to have a private discussion, there is a function for that.

 

[Taylor]

The AFL integrity unit called him in for an interview.

JF: What's the story?
AFL: We caught on mike someone saying something very offensive
JF: Did they say gay?
AFL: No Jeremy, not the G word
JF: Did he say f*****?
AFL: No, we didn't hear the F word

JF: Well then you didn't hear it from me!

---- End joke

I'm happy that it's being treated like any other immutable characteristic.

 

[sherb]

Despite what people will say, context actually matters in situations such as this.

Using it as an insult towards a straight person is completely different to doing it to a gay person.

It’s still not appropriate, but intent matters. Using a bad word doesn’t automatically = raging homophobe.

How would he know the sexuality of the person he used it against?

Spot on. God society is precious. It’s pathetic.

Given the AFL openly promotes LBGTQ+ inclusivity, it's actually not that difficult to work out why they don't want players using homophobic slurs on the field.

 

[Captivating]

His punishment should be spending two weeks with a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer.

 

[justlookingaround]

It’s always the closeted ones….

 

[iameviljez]

His punishment should be spending two weeks with a Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officer.

Ooofh, I agree it needs punishment but you are unusually cruel

 

[joy division]

I’ve never heard of self reporting because you called someone a **** in some push and shove… crazy times imo.

 

[Mcarcherey]

Beating up a straight person, and calling them a f***** because you think it is an insult isn't a hate crime.

Beating up a homosexual and calling them a f***** because they're a homosexual is a hate crime.

Thats where we hit on the differences between Tex's actions and Finlayson's.

No, it's assault. A crime is a crime. No such thing as a "hate" crime.

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[iameviljez]

No, it's assault. A crime is a crime. No such thing as a "hate" crime.

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????
Of course there is, it’s a crime with specific motive based on prejudice. A subset of crime, if you will.