List Mgmt. Should The Eagles Request A Priority Assistance Package at The End of This Year?

[Byron_Clanger]

I think losing by 100 at half time would constitute a request for an assistance package. And the club would be derelict in their duty not to ask.

 

[kranky al]

If we ask and get nothing, then it at least sets a high bar for how shit sides need to be to get assistance in the future

if you think the afl won’t tie itself in knots justifying why we won’t get it and another team does despite less of a claim then I have to question whether you’ve been paying attention.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Surely yesterday’s game was an insight to the future. Showing the AFL if we trade barrass and if Gov is injured next year this is what we are looking at. 100 point losses. I admit it wasn’t all the back lines fault but it lacked leadership down there.

The fact we’ve had 5 wins this year is good but I’d say the we aren’t out of the woods yet. Success isn’t linear and when Gov, Yeo, Cripps, Darling and Kelly retire in the next few years we are probably going to go back down the ladder unless we can inject new young players now, via trade or draft to prepare for those losses. Couple of PP 2nd or 3rd rounders to trade would definitely help especially given Tassie are coming

We don't want barrass he is a ticking time bomb with his concussions .

Take what we can for him , get assistance from the afl , trade in some best 22 players and hit the draft

 

[WCE_18]

We don't want barrass he is a ticking time bomb with his concussions .

Take what we can for him , get assistance from the afl , trade in some best 22 players and hit the draft

Oh I agree we trade him! It shows the afl if we trade him this year we’ll be back next year asking for assistance unless they provide some this year

 

[InTheWings]

I think losing by 100 at half time would constitute a request for an assistance package. And the club would be derelict in their duty not to ask.

We should have sent off the request at half time yesterday.

 

[MaxHunt]

Saints potentially getting pick 8 for Battle, more than Barras shows how compromised the system is. Should go all out for assistance package

 

[ziad]

Saints potential getting pick 8 for Battle, more than Barras shows how compromised the system is. Show go all out for assistance package

Well Barrass is contracted, it's up to us what we accept. Time to be hard bastards. But I agree with you.

 

[Balls In]

There's also a massive talent drain discrepancy out of WA going from West to east year in year out. Inexplicably dickhead WA footy powerbrokers have sat on their fat arses accepting this idiocy for years and now both WA teams have cratered and because of this socialism the biggest club in Austalia isn't going to make finals for probably a decade and the other club who have been rebuilding for a decade didn't even make the finals this year.

Why should non WA teams care?

WA footy, long taken for granted is now at risk of losing generations of young people into the system because ALL of the states effort and energy is being socialised off to places that will never stand on their feet. Its a classic kill the goose. We will continue to fill stadiums but the entire AFL landscape around it all will retract, grass roots interest in the game will drop off and eventually the money. I already believe the talent coming into the competition is the lowest ever, the general quality of games is poor and still the entire AFL effort is to redirect resources from what is working to what will never.

Whatever the mechanism to fix it the AFL has a crisis in WA that they caused and the ball is in their court.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

WFF am I missing?

There's also a massive talent drain discrepancy out of WA going from West to east year in year out. Inexplicably dickhead WA footy powerbrokers have sat on their fat arses accepting this idiocy for years and now both WA teams have cratered and because of this socialism the biggest club in Austalia isn't going to make finals for probably a decade and the other club who have been rebuilding for a decade didn't even make the finals this year.

Why should non WA teams care?

WA footy, long taken for granted is now at risk of losing generations of young people into the system because ALL of the states effort and energy is being socialised off to places that will never stand on their feet. Its a classic kill the goose. We will continue to fill stadiums but the entire AFL landscape around it all will retract, grass roots interest in the game will drop off and eventually the money. I already believe the talent coming into the competition is the lowest ever, the general quality of games is poor and still the entire AFL effort is to redirect resources from what is working to what will never.

Whatever the mechanism to fix it the AFL has a crisis in WA that they caused and the ball is in their court.

Hating whatever your version of socialism is aside, what does this mean?

WA kids get drafted over east, and eastern states kids come here. What’s the risk to generations of young people? Kids aren’t going to stop playing footy because the Eagles are bad. One of the WA clubs has nearly always been an also ran while the other is up and about, very rarely are we both up at the same time.

 

[Balls In]

Hating whatever your version of socialism is aside, what does this mean?

WA kids get drafted over east, and eastern states kids come here. What’s the risk to generations of young people? Kids aren’t going to stop playing footy because the Eagles are bad. One of the WA clubs has nearly always been an also ran while the other is up and about, very rarely are we both up at the same time.

What do you mean what does it mean? Our state is getting sucked dry by the AFL redirecting far too many dollars and players from our state to the east and now both of our teams suck?

 

[HoneyBadger35]

What do you mean what does it mean? Our state is getting sucked dry by the AFL redirecting far too many dollars and players from our state to the east and now both of our teams suck?

Freo are a Shai Bolton away from being flag favourites for mine, they (along with several sides to be fair) were a late season collapse away from top two/four.

For every WA kid that leaves the state, one from another state comes in during the draft? We don’t just skip the pick cause a WA boy heads east. I genuinely don’t understand the implication - do you think participation will go down because people will see that if they play footy and play it well they might drafted interstate? Footy’s never been bigger in WA, Freo just had their best attended season ever and we still crush attendance, memberships etc even at our lowest ebb.

Where is the risk of football dying for future generations?

 

[Balls In]

Freo are a Shai Bolton away from being flag favourites for mine, they (along with several sides to be fair) were a late season collapse away from top two/four.

For every WA kid that leaves the state, one from another state comes in during the draft? We don’t just skip the pick cause a WA boy heads east. I genuinely don’t understand the implication - do you think participation will go down because people will see that if they play footy and play it well they might drafted interstate? Footy’s never been bigger in WA, Freo just had their best attended season ever and we still crush attendance, memberships etc even at our lowest ebb.

Where is the risk of football dying for future generations?

How many WA players are recruited from WA vs how many players are drafted to WA? Pretty wild delta that. Then do it for dollars. Travel etc. Then consider the degeneration in WA footy of kids seeing WA teams suck year after year after year.

P.S we beat Freo this year they aren't near a flag

 

[HoneyBadger35]

How many WA players are recruited from WA vs how many players are drafted to WA? Pretty wild delta that. Then do it for dollars. Travel etc. Then consider the degeneration in WA footy of kids seeing WA teams suck year after year after year.

P.S we beat Freo this year they aren't near a flag

I genuinely have no idea what your implication is at all.

Eagles didn’t draft a local first overall, they drafted Harley Reid (VIC), and that is a bad thing because he’s not from here? Fans don’t particularly care if a guy was recruited from here or not if they’re playing well. WA kids going over east is fine, and the WA clubs drafting top interstate talent is also fine.

There was a record level of grass roots participation in WA football last year FYI. That was with an Eagles spoon and Freo 14th. Record crowd numbers this year. Footy is going nowhere in WA just cause the Eagles aren’t much chop.

 

[Balls In]

I genuinely have no idea what your implication is at all

WA is overcompensating eastern state footy, both teams suck because of that and aren't worth watching

 

[HoneyBadger35]

WA is overcompensating eastern state footy, both teams suck because of that and aren't worth watching

But the number of kids drafted depends on the number of picks each team has, not the state of origin? Like if the Eagles have 10 picks and take them all from Vic, that’s not us leeching off the state of Victoria that’s us…drafting.

There being so many WA kids who are talented enough to make the national comp is a good indicator?

 

[bzparkes]

People care that we must have WA players playing for Freo and WCE and if we don't, footy in the state is dying?

I couldn't give a flippin' **** where our players come from, provided they end up being good/great players for us.

We're a club, not s state of origin side.

 

[TY24]

WA is overcompensating eastern state footy, both teams suck because of that and aren't worth watching

Fremantle's issues are not talent related. Their list is as stacked as it ever has been in their history, and it's going to be even stronger next season.

They have an elite midfield, a fantastic spine, and finally have a great pair of KPF's in Treacy and Amiss.

Add Shai Bolton to their side and they will have the best list they've ever had by a long way.

If I take my Eagles glasses off and put my impartial footy observer hat on, I would say Fremantle's issues are a mix of untimely injuries to key players, getting an absolute horror run of fixtures to finish the season (they played 3 of the top 4 sides in their last 4 games), and a lack of mental fortitude which shot the confidence of the playing group. Their board will have you believe there's some coaching issues at play too.

Fremantle are a great side to watch when they're on. They're just inconsistent. Time will (unfortunately) fix that.

 

[Balls In]

People care that we must have WA players playing for Freo and WCE and if we don't, footy in the state is dying?

I couldn't give a flippin' **** where our players come from, provided they end up being good/great players for us.

We're a club, not s state of origin side.

Well done missing the entire point that WA footy is hemorrhaging players and money over east while both WA teams suck. Shai Bolton, the saviour of Freo is a WA derived player. Whatevs how you spin it, millions of heartland WA supporters are now watching a shit product every week. It wasn't so long ago that a single season on non Vic presence resulted in an AFL crisis meeting. Fken oath we should be demanding draft concessions.

 

[Bestbird]

Would say no normally but the highly compromised draft like last year when pick 19 becomes pick 30 means we should

 

[bzparkes]

Well done missing the entire point that WA footy is hemorrhaging players and money over east while both WA teams suck. Shai Bolton, the saviour of Freo is a WA derived player. Whatevs how you spin it, millions of heartland AFL supporters are watching a shit product. It wasn't so long ago that a single season on non Vic presence resulted in an AFL crisis meeting.

You're right, I don't get your point.

Why does it matter that we have WA players on our list?

We could have zero for all I care. It's not like we've lost many interstate players of note.

Who gives a ****? It's a national competition.

Maybe we should ship Reid off for Bolton then, simply because he's from WA?

 

[Balls In]

You're right, I don't get your point.

You never will probably. The point is the redirection of player and financial resources from a powerhouse state to basket case Vic and non footy jurisdictions. All it does is take the whole thing down. 100% the AFL should now be intervening to help fix the mess WA footy is in that their meddling created.

 

[bzparkes]

You never will probably. The point is the redirection of player and financial resources from a powerhouse state to basket case Vic and non footy jurisdictions. All it does is take the whole thing down.

What does that have to do with WA players who we don't have access to, other than the draft?

The day WCE prioritises a lesser WA talent over a better interstate one, for the simple fact that they're from WA, is the day MRP should be burnt to the ground.

As an aside, WCE and Freo have just been handed the biggest NGA zone in the country, that can be matched at any point in the draft.

That is a massive leg up over the rest of the country, provided the 2 clubs manage it correctly.

 

[stallon]

Fremantle's issues are not talent related. Their list is as stacked as it ever has been in their history, and it's going to be even stronger next season.

They have an elite midfield, a fantastic spine, and finally have a great pair of KPF's in Treacy and Amiss.

Add Shai Bolton to their side and they will have the best list they've ever had by a long way.

If I take my Eagles glasses off and put my impartial footy observer hat on, I would say Fremantle's issues are a mix of untimely injuries to key players, getting an absolute horror run of fixtures to finish the season (they played 3 of the top 4 sides in their last 4 games), and a lack of mental fortitude which shot the confidence of the playing group. Their board will have you believe there's some coaching issues at play too.

Fremantle are a great side to watch when they're on. They're just inconsistent. Time will (unfortunately) fix that.

Their good players are all mostly the right side of 25 too, they have a long time left. Their KPFs are still early 20s, I think Treacy is in his 4th year? Theyre fine

 

[Smeg Head]

You never will probably. The point is the redirection of player and financial resources from a powerhouse state to basket case Vic and non footy jurisdictions. All it does is take the whole thing down. 100% the AFL should now be intervening to help fix the mess WA footy is in that their meddling created.

Got to leech more resources propping up the ****ing cola swans. 40 years and counting.

 

[Smeg Head]

Balls In is right with how little shits the AFL gives to promoting football over here. I mean look how much they kick in to stadium shit for example in every other state. Very much taken for granted, fixturing this year with that round zero bollocks on top of gather round etc.

We should be asking for a package, especially with forced concussion retirements, those should generate some sort of replacement pick.