Traded Dan Houston - Joins Collingwood as part of 3-way trade with Port and GC

[Johnny Bananas]

I wonder why neither GC nor Port preferred to deal with North. Their first pick next year should be a good one.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Factoring in this...



How about, as a starting point:

GC
Out: Lukosius, Pick 20
In: North F1

Port
Out: Houston, F2
In: Pick 20 (PP - technically end of first round), Lukosius

North
Out: F1
In: Houston, Port F2

 

[perplexed]

If the Tigers get 9&10 for Bolton then North might swap pick 2 for both 9&10 and use say 10 for Houston and still have a Top10 pick in the draft.

This looks a better option for us than using our F1. Pick 2 should be worth more but isn't as useful for us as we shouldn't be looking at more mids.

I don't get why the club would want to offload our F1, we have a lot OOC next year that we need to dump and replace.

 

[THE_GUN]

Let's say Tigers land the Dockers late pick as part of the Bolton deal, would they trade that for our future 1st?

Suns also want more currency next year, would they trade 12 for a future 1st?

Either scenario would require shuffling of other picks

I doubt Richmond would trade any of 9,10,16 this year fro a pick expected to be 16+ in 2025 - Nothing to gain really as Carlton would be expected to be top 4 next year with Houston and a more experienced Carlton lineup in their window

Suns will have so many better offers for their pick #12 this year with a deep draft and from what draft watchers are saying its a very shallow draft in 2025. Future picks would be around 70cents in the dollar at best imo

 

[eastfreo75]

Port have stated that they want 2 early picks in this years draft not future F1st...but l think they will take 1 if its #10 or under....

Wanting and getting is two different things.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

North would be stupid to give up pick 10 for him, by the time their list is ready for a flag tilt Houston will be getting too old.

Carlton made the same mistake a few years ago giving away pick 6 or 8 for saad, dont trade away a future 10 year player for an AA HBF in their late 20s until you are making finals and need that push to get to top 4.

Regardless of a trade outcome and draft picks etc, just general conversation but

I think north would be crazy not to go for Houston, he would walk in and nearly be the captain (he is in our leadership group), x2 AA, probably the best player of a top 4 club. They have been bottom 4 for how long. Getting young players in with no good experience around them has not worked. Houston would be a huge stepping stone to turning the club around, much like how Brad Ebert coming to port in 2012 helped port improve training standards.

Getting Houston and Darling (and hopefully good young talent) in will improve heaps of players around them

 

[eastfreo75]

I doubt Richmond would trade any of 9,10,16 this year fro a pick expected to be 16+ in 2025 - Nothing to gain really as Carlton would be expected to be top 4 next year with Houston and a more experienced Carlton lineup in their window

Suns will have so many better offers for their pick #12 this year with a deep draft and from what draft watchers are saying its a very shallow draft in 2025. Future picks would be around 70cents in the dollar at best imo

Blues won't make top 4.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Factoring in this...



How about, as a starting point:

GC
Out: Lukosius, Pick 20
In: North F1

Port
Out: Houston, F2
In: Pick 20 (PP - technically end of first round), Lukosius

North
Out: F1
In: Houston, Port F2

Laughable

 

[Makeshift Park]

Regardless of a trade outcome and draft picks etc, just general conversation but

I think north would be crazy not to go for Houston, he would walk in and nearly be the captain (he is in our leadership group), x2 AA, probably the best player of a top 4 club. They have been bottom 4 for how long. Getting young players in with no good experience around them has not worked. Houston would be a huge stepping stone to turning the club around, much like how Brad Ebert coming to port in 2012 helped port improve training standards.

Getting Houston and Darling (and hopefully good young talent) in will improve heaps of players around them

Agree 100%.

Don't forget Parker tho.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Wanting and getting is two different things.

Lucky port hold all the power can just keep our best player at the end of the day

 

[THE_GUN]

This looks a better option for us than using our F1. Pick 2 should be worth more but isn't as useful for us as we shouldn't be looking at more mids.

I don't get why the club would want to offload our F1, we have a lot OOC next year that we need to dump and replace.

If North could pull that off thats a win-win-win

Tigers get full value for Bolton pick #2
North het Houston + Trainor or who ever they rate at #10
Port get pick #9

 

[Makeshift Park]

Laughable

Why? You wanted two first rounders for him. You're getting Lukosius and a first rounder?

 

[Libbaaaa]

Correct me if I’m wrong but if Houston doesn’t nominate North what does it matter what they could offer?

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Why? You wanted two first rounders for him. You're getting Lukosius and a first rounder?

So we trade our best player, x2 AA for pick 20 and a 24 year old that was dropped this year.

Yeah get real

 

[ABAB]

How does houston say no if Port say we will deal with North for their F1 if you want to go to melbourne
Then they could ontrade their own F1 for Luko and keep norths pick.

Because he doesn't want to play for North so Port Power decide the best they can get is a pick around 10 and then have to outweigh this with wanting to get back in the draft otherwise he stays.

 

[perplexed]

So we trade our best player, x2 AA for pick 20 and a 24 year old that was dropped this year.

Yeah get real

What pick do you value Houston at?

 

[Makeshift Park]

So we trade our best player, x2 AA for pick 20 and a 24 year old that was dropped this year.

Yeah get real

How do you imagine you'll pay for Lukosius then?

 

[THE_GUN]

Because he doesn't want to play for North so Port Power decide the best they can get is a pick around 10 and then have to outweigh this with wanting to get back in the draft otherwise he stays.

Then he plays for Port

last day of trade and nothing happens i bet he agree's

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

What pick do you value Houston at?

2 good first rounders (1 being a top 10 draft pick this year

 

[THE_GUN]

What pick do you value Houston at?

It would have to be pick #6
if Rioli gets 6 then Houston same

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

How do you imagine you'll pay for Lukosius then?

Here’s an idea, straight swap for pick 2, luko with ports future first

 

[perplexed]

2 good first rounders (1 being a top 10 draft pick this year

Jester indeed.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Jester indeed.

Port hold the power unfortunately.

 

[bootz79]

North
Give Pick up : pick 2 pick 22 future 2nd
Get: Houston / 6 (gc)

Gold Coast
Give up :Lukosius pick 6
Get : pick 2 and 22

Port
Give up :Houston
Get : Lukosius and future 2

 

[perplexed]

Port hold the power unfortunately.

What Power?

You guys have a player who wants to leave. You don't have to trade him, but nobody needs to trade him in either.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Here’s an idea, straight swap for pick 2, luko with ports future first

No really, what's your plan for Lukosius?

He wouldn't have nominated you if he hadn't gotten assurances the deal would be done.

Other than using the Houston trade to get the prerequisite pick(s), the only other option you've got is to ask the AFL permission to trade your F1, yeah?