St Kilda President Andrew Bassat tees off on the AFL draft system, specifically father/son and the Northern Academies

[BIGHAWK23]

Predictable retort.

When tassie comes in how long will it take before the Hawks want another merger?

I guess 3 years.

Hawthorn fans bailed on the club until this year, bandwagoners to the extreme.

80k members

Multi 100 million training facility being developed, open next year

Destination club

Prime time fixture next season

We will focus on what we can control
You can whinge about the inequalities in the afl

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Tantrum?, nah emotion after a game is fine

It was about something that had nothing to do with him. It was the typical can dish it out but can't take a return serve.

Can't he control his emotions?

 

[EconomicDecline]

No one in here has given any argument as to why Father/son or academy picks should get a discount for skipping the queue instead of paying a premium for the privilege.

 

[Dewyyyyy]

A couple of things...

It's not 'financial aid', it's money that all clubs need to operate. No club can survive without that money from the AFL.

Secondly, prime time games don't do shit for a club like St Kilda in terms of making them a 'big club'.

They need them to compete commercially in the short term, as it gives them the chance to turn a profit on the season. But nothing more really.

Getting a couple of Friday night games isn't what gets you from being a club with 30k members to 100k. It'll just get you from being a club with a $10m debt to a club with a $9m debt.

It won't make you a 'destination club'.

Playing primetime fixtures and getting marquee timeslots and games is what gives you the national exposure and relevance to possibly, over 20-30 years, become a 'big club'.

As I said earlier, the comp couldn't survive this though. All clubs need the millions that the AFL give them each year. If the fixture wasn't 'maximised' the millions simply wouldn't be there.

But that's Ok. Small clubs mostly accept this reality.

What's stupid, is throwing Father-Son shit and other unnecessary inequities on top of. That's just totally unnecessary and further widens the gap.

It’s financial aid because some teams are more or less independent whereas others aren’t. Obviously there’s a generalised baseline.

To an extent, my point was building new blockbuster games rather than replacing the ones already present.

But I think you’re overplaying the amount a marquee game plays in it, North get Good Friday and they’re not a big club?

It helps but it isn’t going to make or break a club or catapult you.

I definitely agree with the father sons, next gen and normal academies. I like the idea to an extent but the price needs to be relative and fair, a few third rounders for Levi Ashcroft (clear 1) is ridiculous.

 

[werdna78]

No one in here has given any argument as to why Father/son or academy picks should get a discount for skipping the queue instead of paying a premium for the privilege.

Compensation for developing.

Like the compensation pick you received for developing Battle.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

It was about something that had nothing to do with him. It was the typical can dish it out but can't take a return serve.

Can't he control his emotions?

Yawn

 

[LuckyBounce!]

Embarrassing your club would be complaining about how unfair everything is with the pedigree that Bassett has

Work in silence, people would respect him more

You’ve proved his point that St. Kilda should know their place and do as they are told

 

[Mat Mann]

80k members

Multi 100 million training facility being developed, open next year

Destination club

Prime time fixture next season

We will focus on what we can control
You can whinge about the inequalities in the afl

and yet

AFL 2019: Hawthorn records its worst MCG crowd in 15 years to see upset win over GWS

Where’d everyone go? 80k members, but record low crowd for Hawks

www.foxsports.com.au

even we do better

 

[BIGHAWK23]

and yet

AFL 2019: Hawthorn records its worst MCG crowd in 15 years to see upset win over GWS

Where’d everyone go? 80k members, but record low crowd for Hawks

www.foxsports.com.au

even we do better

2019

Try again

 

[littlecreatures]

80k members

Multi 100 million training facility being developed, open next year

Destination club

Prime time fixture next season

We will focus on what we can control
You can whinge about the inequalities in the afl

External reviews of racism.

Federal court and human rights commission.

Unwarranted termination of pregnancies.

Past players don’t want to go near your god forsaken Lannister joint.

Can’t keep a CEO longer than 5 seconds.

Previous pres still embarrassing your club.

It’s a surprise Clarko still not taking up soft cap.

Sounds pretty glorious. And, here you are…

 

[Mat Mann]

2019

Try again

that's the point when you were shit no one turned up Einstein

 

[Plugger35]

Embarrassing your club would be complaining about how unfair everything is with the pedigree that Bassett has

Work in silence, people would respect him more

Working in silence won't get you anywhere with the AFL, you need to make some noise or they will just walk all over you.

Maybe the Hawks should bring back Jeff Kennett to make some noise for the Hawks, you don't hear a peep out of Gowers.

 

[beside the seaside]

Embarrassing your club would be complaining about how unfair everything is with the pedigree that Bassett has

Work in silence, people would respect him more

Obviously you're upset that we got pick 8. You'd convinced yourself that you weren't paying Battle much, turns out you've put him in the top 40 earners in the league. But really why do you actually care what Bassatt says? Just seems you're ticked off at us because of the Battle compo. You got your man, paid more than you'd hoped but be satisfied. If he wants to have a whinge at the b and f who cares, it's our best and fairest ffs and he can say what he wants.

 

[GOTHELIONS16]

I’m a lions fan, and I too find it ridiculous how little we need to cough up to get Levi Ashcroft. There should be a bigger sacrifice required than some lowly group of draft picks. The privilege of getting priority access is enough, yet we get a discount too.

It’s no different to all the priority 1s out there who got guaranteed access to grand final tickets. Imagine if these P1s got tickets 50% off too.

 

[Lingsface]

Has he made a speech about the compensation pick yet?

 

[Mitchell Madness]

I’m a lions fan, and I too find it ridiculous how little we need to cough up to get Levi Ashcroft. There should be a bigger sacrifice required than some lowly group of draft picks. The privilege of getting priority access is enough, yet we get a discount too.

It’s no different to all the priority 1s out there who got guaranteed access to grand final tickets. Imagine if these P1s got tickets 50% off too.

You've still got to have enough list spots for the picks used (e.g. if you use 5 picks you need a minimum 5 list spots).
Whilst giving up little, it can impact list depth

 

[StCicatriz]

Because the VFL made rules to enrich themselves and as soon as a non-VFL team get the advantage the Saints arc up. Crickets when the bulldogs were getting f/s over decades and Collingwood. Have some courage rather than selective moral outrage.

So let me this straight because of the inequities in the comp that benefited clubs that are not st kilda you want st kilda to shut up because it now benefits Brisbane?

Fmd.

 

[StCicatriz]

its funny you mention that, the club was run by the most inept people of all time then, Angus Johnson the chairman at the time was a disgrace but at least he was less embarrassing than that speech by Bassat

Didn't have anything to do with the salary cap concessions you were afforded to then retain players?

 

[StCicatriz]

That’s such a good comparison I’m glad you brought it up.

Lions were a rabble off field when the back office did all that complaining. Then we fixed that. As soon as the adults entered the room the club stopped complaining and began fixing. And here we are.

St Kilda should take note.

With salary cap concessions

 

[Elixuh]

So let me this straight because of the inequities in the comp that benefited clubs that are not st kilda you want st kilda to shut up because it now benefits Brisbane?

Fmd.

You’re right we should only talk about the injustices that the mighty St Kilda believes it is up against.

 

[Elixuh]

With salary cap concessions

We didn’t have any salary cap concessions in 2013, what’re you talking about.

 

[StCicatriz]

You’re right we should only talk about the injustices that the mighty St Kilda believes it is up against.

He's the president of St kilda. You don't want him to be vocal about issues the club he is responsible for is facing?

By all accounts these issues are not unique to our club either and there is sentiment shared by the other clubs.

 

[Elixuh]

He's the president of St kilda. You don't want him to be vocal about issues the club he is responsible for is facing?

By all accounts these issues are not unique to our club either and there is sentiment shared by the other clubs.

It’s just a classic St Kilda woe is me story. Bungled your list over a decade via your own choices and upset that you get none of the structural advantages the other VFL clubs did and trying to make some noise with the ultimate goal being forcing the AFLs hand to give you band 1 compo for battle.

Mission accomplished. I don’t know why we are still talking about this issue. We won’t hear from Fred Bassat again until the Saints get their begging bowl put again.

 

[StCicatriz]

We didn’t have any salary cap concessions in 2013, what’re you talking about.

So you've never had salary cap concessions?

 

[Elixuh]

So you've never had salary cap concessions?

Are you struggling to follow the conversation? We were talking about the exodus at the lions in 2013/14 and subsequent years.

Your comprehension skills are at rock bottom lad.