Traded Daniel Rioli - Traded with picks 51, 61, 70 & 76 to GC for picks 6 & 26

[THE_GUN]

I think the pick #23 is pretty important in this trade period for Richmond
I can see Richmond wanting to move into pick #2 and this pick could be used along with pick #6 to move up
North will be looking to get an extra pick for Daniel

 

[dean33]

If Richmond get 6 and 23 for Rioli and send back crappy picks then we need to fold the Suns.

You can’t fold every team we trade with, first eagles now suns. Freos folding must wait until tmrw.

 

[dean33]

Oh well then, if 10+18 doesn't get it done he can stay, I'm fine with waiting another year.

You sound like a west coast fan last week.

 

[MadMundy]

You sound like a west coast fan last week.

We'll see what happens, all I know is you won't be getting 11.

 

[THE_GUN]

Pick #23 in the Rioli deal could be the pick that unlocks the Bolton trade

#10 + #11 + #30
#23 + Bolton

 

[MadMundy]

Pick #23 in the Rioli deal could be the pick that unlocks the Bolton trade

#10 + #11 + #30
#23 + Bolton

Change 11 to 18 and you'd have something more realistic. 11 is off the table.

 

[dean33]

We'll see what happens, all I know is you won't be getting 11.

Okey-dokey…

 

[THE_GUN]

Change 11 to 18 and you'd have something more realistic. 11 is off the table.

If it was going to be 18 it would have been done already
Im extremely confident Richmond will be holding picks #10 + #11 once this trade is done

Richmond wont fold on Bolton with 4 years contract on his head
Blair is a very tough player in this area

he pays whats asked and gets what he asks
North CCj & Rioli , Baker , Higgins trades should be an indication

 

[Wild Bill]

He is worth a top 10 pick. He is a very good player and is right at the top of his talent. Not many half backs I would have over him, if any.

Zorko, Blakey, Houston, Sinclair, Whitfield, Dale, Clark & Sheezel.

 

[My_Username]

Change 11 to 18 and you'd have something more realistic. 11 is off the table.

If it's 10 and 18, the later picks will be in Richmond's favor as the final price will likely be somewhere between the 2 positions.

Of course, the question then becomes how could Freo sweeten 10/18 enough to satisfy Richmond....I'm not sure Richmond would want 30 all that much (it'd likely be about their 8th pick after all...would they even go that deep?), and Freo wouldn't be especially keen on trading away future picks if they hope to get Warner next year.

That's why I think 10/11 with picks coming back would be the more likely result.

 

[My Cotchin Rules]

Must be in the wrong thread. Thought I was here to read about a potential Rioli trade but it's Bolton & Freos 1st's on the agenda......

 

[Dez!]

He is worth a top 10 pick. He is a very good player and is right at the top of his talent. Not many half backs I would have over him, if any.

That's just a hilariously bad and biased take.

 

[juss]

This is now dragging out a bit, unless the deal is basically already agreed in principle and there's just other things getting in the way like Richmond focussing on the Bolton trade with Freo.

 

[Grrr]

That's just a hilariously bad and biased take.

I could say the same your way. Dan Houston is one I might take above him, very much on his kicking, but Rioli's speed and precise kicking himself make such an attacking player from the back half. Zorko was very good this year as well. There are an awful lot of half backs who take an awful lot of uncontested mark and kick it around the back half switching play etc. They get their stats up and their named called a lot but they get a lot of cheap ball as well. Rioli played in the spoon side, that doesn't help him as well.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

This is now dragging out a bit, unless the deal is basically already agreed in principle and there's just other things getting in the way like Richmond focussing on the Bolton trade with Freo.

Sounds like it's done, but Richmond are trying to get a pick in the 30's off Freo to give to GC for Lombard points.

So the Bolton trade is holding it up.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Sounds like it's done, but Richmond are trying to get a pick in the 30's off Freo to give to GC for Lombard points.

So the Bolton trade is holding it up.

Maybe the Suns will keep 23 and offer 6 & F1st + a pick back & Rioli

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Maybe the Suns will keep 23 and offer 6 & F1st + a pick back & Rioli

Suns aren't trading their future first, it's needed for all the academy guns they need to match next year.

 

[Laffy2Chaffey2Daffy]

Must be in the wrong thread. Thought I was her to read about a potential Rioli trade but it's Bolton & Freos 1st's on the agenda......

Freo fans packing their daks about trading 10+11 for Bolton. Next stage of grief is anger.

 

[A Bit Dusty]

Suns aren't trading their future first, it's needed for all the academy guns they need to match next year.

They have 3 now

 

[GCS in 11]

Ok well we’ve got one HB flanker coming in now, let’s just do Rioli for 6 and keep 23 for points if Richmond can’t get them for us

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

They have 3 now

There are 4 possible first round academy kids next year including Zeke Uwland who could be top 3. The Suns need every point they can get.

 

[GCS in 11]

There are 4 possible first round academy kids next year including Zeke Uwland who could be top 3. The Suns need every point they can get.

And with it being a different system, there’s no more trading a top pick for 4 picks in the 40’s and 50’s.

We’re gonna need constant high end draft picks to match each year

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

Ok well we’ve got one HB flanker coming in now, let’s just do Rioli for 6 and keep 23 for points if Richmond can’t get them for us

Yep that might have to happen if Richmond can't get their deals done in time.

 

[Maybe Tomorrow]

And with it being a different system, there’s no more trading a top pick for 4 picks in the 40’s and 50’s.

We’re gonna need constant high end draft picks to match each year

At some point GC will have to let some of these kids go. But it won't be next year.

 

[SSwans2011]

I could say the same your way. Dan Houston is one I might take above him, very much on his kicking, but Rioli's speed and precise kicking himself make such an attacking player from the back half.

The same is true for almost every gun half back flanker. It's not surprising that most of them were previously outside midfielders or forwards.

There are an awful lot of half backs who take an awful lot of uncontested mark and kick it around the back half switching play etc. They get their stats up and their named called a lot but they get a lot of cheap ball as well. Rioli played in the spoon side, that doesn't help him as well.

Which ones would those be and how are they any different to Rioli? Because the difference in contested possessions between Rioli and those named above is minuscule. I'm not sure the wooden spoon argument holds much weight either because Sheezel averaged more contested possessions than Rioli last year when he played the vast majority of the season as a half back. If anything, being in a wooden spoon side should theoretically give defenders more opportunity to win the ball, not less.

Rioli is a very good player, but it's definitely pushing it to suggest he's the best half back flank in the comp.