Geelong rorting the system

[Mitchell Madness]

This Scott deal is no worse than Judd and Visy.

Cotton on and Bailey Smith and requesting to play for cats...was always on the cards.

Geelong do have a regional advantage.

Maybe a better way of doing it would be like Cotton on employ retired cats. e.g Selwood and Hawkins post career, but they also play for a little less under salary cap.

And everyone had a problem with Judd's visa deal, to the point where the afl couldn't sweep it under the rug and actually had to change 3rd party rules which stated they had to include it in the cap.
After that though, it was back to a free for all until they said no to franklin signing a 2 Mil deal with puma because they wanting him at gws...

 

[HairyO]

And everyone had a problem with Judd's visa deal, to the point where the afl couldn't sweep it under the rug and actually had to change 3rd party rules which stated they had to include it in the cap.
After that though, it was back to a free for all until they said no to franklin signing a 2 Mil deal with puma because they wanting him at gws...

Im sure the AFL media are all over this Scott appointment.

Oh wait, there is a story about Jack Ginnivan encroaching on the AFL's marketing rights: https://www.afl.com.au/news/1248337/barrett-hokball-jack-ginnivan-and-the-brown-and-gold-grey-area

The AFL truly doesnt care about anything unless someone is threatening their ability to make money.

Clearly Hawthorn just need to get a sponsor to employ Ginnivan and Watson then there is no issue.

 

[Sttew]

Tax paid club.
I call them the labor party.
Done nothing for the code and still get tax money.
Time to turf them out.
Cats are crooks.

“a recent renovation of the club’s headquarters was funded, in part, by a $15 million federal government infrastructure grant intended to provide improved facilities for women’s sports teams.”

That’s not about Geelong but Collingwood

 

[HairyO]

“a recent renovation of the club’s headquarters was funded, in part, by a $15 million federal government infrastructure grant intended to provide improved facilities for women’s sports teams.”

That’s not about Geelong but Collingwood

Collingwood also spent a huge amount of money on upgrading Vic Park facilities for their netball team. Outside of the AFL soft cap of course. Was just pure luck that the new facilities were also incredibly helpful for the training of their football team.

Then sadly a few years later they got rid of the netball team.

 

[Cyclops]

Collingwood also spent a huge amount of money on upgrading Vic Park facilities for their netball team. Outside of the AFL soft cap of course. Was just pure luck that the new facilities were also incredibly helpful for the training of their football team.

Then sadly a few years later they got rid of the netball team.

Well to be fair we also got government grants meant to promote the inclusion of women in sport .

We're all doing shifities left right an centre. Rich clubs get away with more, if a little club like Geelong works out their rorts good luck to them (how many times have they renovated that crappy little half-ground?).

AFL isn't exactly interested in rooting out this sort of thing, they run the biggest rort clubs in the country in Sydney and GWS.

 

[Sttew]

how many times have they renovated that crappy little half-ground?

Why do you care? Collingwood hasn't played at that ground this century and never will. Now that is one of the biggest rorts in the AFL, "big" clubs refusing to play their away game against Geelong at Geelong's home ground

 

[Purple Suit]

Why do you care? Collingwood hasn't played at that ground this century and never will. Now that is one of the biggest rorts in the AFL, "big" clubs refusing to play their away game against Geelong at Geelong's home ground

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.

 

[tiger_tough]

Can't believe the outrage. Who cares? Every club should do the same

 

[Cleric]

The whole AFL community is reactive, and that includes the commission.
The minute the Swans managed to get a flag and the best player as a FA, using the rules set down by the AFL, the AFL changed the system.
The minute some father sons turn out good for Geelong, the AFL changes how much you have to give up to get them. The AFL sets up the NGAs to get players developed and into the system, and the minute one becomes pick 1 in the draft, they nuke the system. They then change the rules that you can't match bids in the top 30. They then bring back the NGAs. They then change the points and rules around NGAs because they are successful, after GC get a number of good talent come through at the same time.
I could go on.

I have no doubt that if a club did some trades and ended up with two F1 picks linked to other clubs, and then that team won the flag, and the two teams they got the future picks from ended last and second last, giving the premiership team the first two picks in the draft, the AFL would step in and take them away, or would change the rules stopping it from ever happening again.

 

[Strange Cat]

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.[/B]

We make less money at the G than at KP genius, the club makes over $1 million with 40 k at KP vs $600k or less at the G

The club absolutely wants 11 HOME games in Geelong

 

[iameviljez]

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.

Geelong absolutely wants 11 games at Kardinia, and the financial windfall to the club from 40k at home is better than 80k at the G due to the ground ownership.

 

[iameviljez]

The whole AFL community is reactive, and that includes the commission.
The minute the Swans managed to get a flag and the best player as a FA, using the rules set down by the AFL, the AFL changed the system.
The minute some father sons turn out good for Geelong, the AFL changes how much you have to give up to get them. The AFL sets up the NGAs to get players developed and into the system, and the minute one becomes pick 1 in the draft, they nuke the system. They then change the rules that you can't match bids in the top 30. They then bring back the NGAs. They then change the points and rules around NGAs because they are successful, after GC get a number of good talent come through at the same time.
I could go on.

I have no doubt that if a club did some trades and ended up with two F1 picks linked to other clubs, and then that team won the flag, and the two teams they got the future picks from ended last and second last, giving the premiership team the first two picks in the draft, the AFL would step in and take them away, or would change the rules stopping it from ever happening again.

Yeah, the decision making - and the lack of anticipation in it - is absolutely stupid. The Buddy changes to punish Sydney for 'stealing' him from the Golden Child in GWS were the worst of the lot, but there's plenty of doors left open in the AFL.

I can't believe that they haven't yet introduced red cards for Grand Finals, for example. Double suspensions mean very little if you win a flag, and, ss Alastair Lynch knew, they mean stuff-all if you're retiring.

 

[Strange Cat]

Yeah, the decision making - and the lack of anticipation in it - is absolutely stupid. The Buddy changes to punish Sydney for 'stealing' him from the Golden Child in GWS were the worst of the lot, but there's plenty of doors left open in the AFL.

I can't believe that they haven't yet introduced red cards for Grand Finals, for example. Double suspensions mean very little if you win a flag, and, ss Alastair Lynch knew, they mean stuff-all if you're retiring.

Tbf if Sydney didn’t abuse the COLA allowances to give Buddy a massive contract rather than spreading the allowance like it it meant to be used there wouldn’t had been a problem.

They made their own bed doing that

 

[Bevoman]

This Scott deal is no worse than Judd and Visy.

Cotton on and Bailey Smith and requesting to play for cats...was always on the cards.

Geelong do have a regional advantage.

Maybe a better way of doing it would be like Cotton on employ retired cats. e.g Selwood and Hawkins post career, but they also play for a little less under salary cap.

And Geelong has the Costa living allowance

 

[Strange Cat]

And Geelong has the Costa living allowance

Got to love the silly conspiracy theories being thrown around

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Got to love the silly conspiracy theories being thrown around

Isaac Smith admitted that he got a cheap house and land deal when he went to the cats.
Backtracked a day later (I'm sure there is someone who has the video of him admitting it). It's where this "conspiracy theory" started

 

[PhatBoy]

Do you think Geelong wants to play a home game against the Hawks or Collingwood at Alphabet stadium?

They get the best of both worlds and can pack out the G for a big wind fall when it suits for more $$$. I’m sure Chris Scott is learning all about the exposure his new employers get at those big games.

How many times does this have to be answered before people hear it?

 

[Strange Cat]

How many times does this have to be answered before people hear it?

Apparently maths is hard to understand for some people

 

[Not a mere cat]

Apparently maths is hard to understand for some people

I gotta say I don’t really understand why - in the example 40k at home v 80k away. The 40k would predominantly be Geelong members who have already paid for their seat. 80k away you’re getting all the away and neutral supporters. Wouldn’t they be making more money on tickets?

 

[Strange Cat]

I gotta say I don’t really understand why - in the example 40k at home v 80k away. The 40k would predominantly be Geelong members who have already paid for their seat. 80k away you’re getting all the away and neutral supporters. Wouldn’t they be making more money on tickets?

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

The MCG has a split revenue with lower gate revenue for opposition clubs and no shared profits for the catering and the likes at the ground

This idiotic take needs to be nipped in the bud

 

[HairyO]

Isaac Smith admitted that he got a cheap house and land deal when he went to the cats.
Backtracked a day later (I'm sure there is someone who has the video of him admitting it). It's where this "conspiracy theory" started

Years and years ago Ling was commenting on a game and was teased by the other former players about his $1 pub.

Its not new. The AFL doesnt care as long as the media doeant care. And the media are controlled by getting extra Grand Final tickets for behaving.

All that happens is that more clubs do it, making a farce out of the cap.

So this really isnt about Scott. Its about how now all clubs will do it more brazenly.

 

[HairyO]

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

This idiot take needs to be nipped in the bud

People are on average spending $50 each on food and drink? Assuming mark up is double.

Geelong the fat alcoholic capital of Australia ?

 

[Not a mere cat]

Geelong has all the catering business at the ground which makes them money as well and less split with opposition team …it’s been well documented that the profit for each home game is over $1 million why would the club want less home games ?

The MCH has a split revenue with no shared profits for the catering and the likes at the ground

This idiot take needs to be nipped in the bud

Thanks. Makes sense now

 

[Sttew]

People are on average spending $50 each on food and drink? Assuming mark up is double.

Geelong the fat alcoholic capital of Australia ?

Fat Cats

 

[HairyO]

Fat Cats

Given 15,000 of them are the grannies with their knitting, its more like 25,000 people spening $80 each on average. Cos we know the grannies are eating hone made cheese and cucumber sandwiches and drinking tea from the thermos.