Why are Port more hated than the Crows?

[Cam1870]

Crows supporters generally love to do the whole Port Powa Est 1997 thing..... Yet they hate the club with the passion of a supporter who had spent their childhoods getting their ass handed to them by the port magpies year after year. Much like the weekend I guess.

Also, the port magpies were the love em or hate em club of SA. I don't want to be anyone's 2nd fav team. Us against the rest suits me just fine

 

[Taper]

Keeping the SANFL alive? Oh please. Just because they had the biggest crowds, doesn't mean anything. Your success relied on having opposition teams to play. If there's no North, no Centrals, no Sturt, no South, there's no Port either.
I guess it's just like when both Port and Crows were owned by the SANFL, and the Crows kept giving a dividend back to the SANFL clubs, including the Magpies, while Port didn't put back a cent.
Port was a drag on the SANFL when they went into the AFL.

How did the SANFL lose control of the Crows and Port licences?
Do you think the Crows and Port are better off under AFL control than they were under SANFL control? Or worse off?

WAFC have always owned the Eagles and Dockers licences, and supporters of both clubs would much prefer to remain controlled by the WAFC than to become controlled by the AFL.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Keeping the SANFL alive? Oh please. Just because they had the biggest crowds, doesn't mean anything. Your success relied on having opposition teams to play. If there's no North, no Centrals, no Sturt, no South, there's no Port either.
I guess it's just like when both Port and Crows were owned by the SANFL, and the Crows kept giving a dividend back to the SANFL clubs, including the Magpies, while Port didn't put back a cent.
Port was a drag on the SANFL when they went into the AFL.

Port did plenty to line the pockets of SANFL during its time in the AFL at Footy Park. Where the SANFL itself basically trashed the clubs finances with the amount of money they dragged out of Port. Including the refusal to supply Port with a clean stadium where they could sell advertising of their sponsors.

Watch Port games... see signage up for Adelaide Crows and SANFL sponsors.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

How did the SANFL lose control of the Crows and Port licences?
Do you think the Crows and Port are better off under AFL control than they were under SANFL control? Or worse off?

WAFC have always owned the Eagles and Dockers licences, and supporters of both clubs would much prefer to remain controlled by the WAFC than to become controlled by the AFL.

The AFL actually looked into the Port's finances. And the biggest drain on Port was the SANFL itself.

The WAFC has always seen a successful Eagles and Dockers as the best thing for WA footy. While the SANFL has always seen the Adelaide Crows and Port Adelaide as the best way for them to drag money out of the AFL, while still maintaining independance.

 

[Cleric]

How did the SANFL lose control of the Crows and Port licences?
Do you think the Crows and Port are better off under AFL control than they were under SANFL control? Or worse off?

WAFC have always owned the Eagles and Dockers licences, and supporters of both clubs would much prefer to remain controlled by the WAFC than to become controlled by the AFL.

Money. Port were a financial drain on the SANFL, they wanted to get rid of debt, and the AFL pushed them to do it.

ChatGPT says
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The Port Adelaide Power license became a substantial financial strain on the SANFL in the years following the club’s entry into the AFL in 1997. The challenges largely stemmed from:

1. Financial Losses: Port Adelaide struggled financially in the AFL, especially during periods of poor performance and lower game attendance, which impacted revenue. The SANFL, as the license holder, was responsible for covering these shortfalls, which added financial pressure to the league.


2. Debt and Financial Aid: By the early 2010s, Port Adelaide was facing significant debt, requiring both the SANFL and the AFL to step in to keep the club afloat. In 2011, the AFL provided a financial bailout package to help stabilize the club, but the SANFL still faced ongoing costs associated with maintaining the license.


3. Market Competition: The SANFL needed to support both the Adelaide Crows and Port Adelaide Power while balancing the resources needed for the local SA football infrastructure. The Power’s financial challenges diverted resources that could have otherwise supported grassroots football.



The decision in 2014 for the SANFL to sell both the Crows and Power licenses to the AFL helped relieve the SANFL from ongoing financial liabilities associated with the Port Adelaide license, allowing it to focus more on local football development."

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Wow. CHATGPT. Because that doesn't get fed total bullshit.

Port Adelaide struggled financially in the down times, because the drain on its finances by the stadium deal at Footy Park meant that it wasn't even able to make money during 2001-2004 when the club was incredibly strong.

Also as part of the AFL assistance, which actually just consisted of receiving it distribution earlier in the year, the AFL did a for basic audit of Port Adelaide's finances. And found there was nothing wrong with the club's spending. Just that it was bringing in bugger all revenue thanks to SANFL restrictions on its home games. Also why the AFL was a massive part in wanting to get away from Football Park.

 

[jakson68]

Reading through this thread and really every thread that involve Port Power, the theme is always the same.

Poor us!

Whether it is Ken, Koch, the fixture, losses, tribunal, whatever the case, they complain that the world is out to get them.
Always playing the victim.
The big bad AFL doesn't play fair with us, they control us, we have the best list in the world and if we had a better coach, then you would see.
What a croc.
Port is an irrelevant club, with a victim mentality and a supporter base that screams in the mirror each morning because it tears them apart inside, that they are not as important as they wish they were.

 

[Cleric]

Reading through this thread and really every thread that involve Port Power, the theme is always the same.

Poor us!

Whether it is Ken, Koch, the fixture, losses, tribunal, whatever the case, they complain that the world is out to get them.
Always playing the victim.
The big bad AFL doesn't play fair with us, they control us, we have the best list in the world and if we had a better coach, then you would see.
What a croc.
Port is an irrelevant club, with a victim mentality and a supporter base that screams in the mirror each morning because it tears them apart inside, that they are not as important as they wish they were.

It's been their entire MO for their whole history. Anytime they had a year or two of no success they would cry foul and say their Zone wasn't correct and the SANFL would fold for them. To give you an idea, one of their most fruitful areas of Jrs was Salisbury North, players such as Gavin Wanganeen and the Bond brothers, and you can literally see the home ground of Central Districts from the Salisbury ground. It was the suburb right next to Elizabeth, which was Centrals home ground. Port Adelaide on the other hand was 25 kms away.

You have also seen it with regards to their entry into the AFL and their push to wear the Port Adelaide magpies jumper.
Doesn't matter what they agree to, what word they give you, they will always go back on it and try to get their way again.

 

[Taper]

The AFL actually looked into the Port's finances. And the biggest drain on Port was the SANFL itself.

Money. Port were a financial drain on the SANFL, they wanted to get rid of debt, and the AFL pushed them to do it.

How come the Crows licence was transferred from the SANFL to the AFL?
Was there a way where the Crows could remain under SANFL control while Port went under AFL control?
I can understand why Port would move from SANFL control to AFL control, but why would the SANFL willingly hand the Crows licence over to the AFL?

 

[Papa G]

The SANFL were also fleecing the Crows but they were not as vocal about it as at the time their larger revenues allowed them to absorb it. They were like the kid who wouldn't lag on their abusive parents. Lets not forget when Port got their "bailout" the Crows too got an albeit smaller bailout from the AFL.

 

[Cleric]

How come the Crows licence was transferred from the SANFL to the AFL?
Was there a way where the Crows could remain under SANFL control while Port went under AFL control?
I can understand why Port would move from SANFL control to AFL control, but why would the SANFL willingly hand the Crows licence over to the AFL?

The SANFL just decided to get out of the AFL licence buisness and just concentrate on the local teams.
At the end of the day the SANFL is controlled by the local teams, and they didn't want to be second fiddle to the two AFL teams.
This was all happening with Adelaide Oval and the death of football Park, so there was a bit going on.

 

[Cleric]

The SANFL were also fleecing the Crows but they were not as vocal about it as at the time their larger revenues allowed them to absorb it. They were like the kid who wouldn't lag on their abusive parents. Lets not forget when Port got their "bailout" the Crows too got an albeit smaller bailout from the AFL.

To the SANFL and the clubs, that was the sole purpose of the club. It provided an income which would go back to the clubs for Jr development etc.
It's not something outrageous, as the SANFL clubs were shareholders in the Crows, and they wanted their dividend of the profit.

The main problem was that while they were getting a dividend from the Crows, Port was financially crippling the SANFL to the point to where they had to go to the AFL to help bail them out. They had to give Port a 5 million dollar bail out, which the SANFL really couldn't afford to do. The SANFL never got $1 from Power in dividend, and only lost money.
If Port never got a licence, and it was just the Crows, they would still be owned by the SANFL today.
Unlike Port, Fremantle have never had to be bailed out by the WAFL, and both of their clubs were financially viable. The WAFL was never dragged down by Freo like Port dragged down the SANFL.

 

[ash_78]

Reading through this thread and really every thread that involve Port Power, the theme is always the same.

Poor us!

Whether it is Ken, Koch, the fixture, losses, tribunal, whatever the case, they complain that the world is out to get them.
Always playing the victim.
The big bad AFL doesn't play fair with us, they control us, we have the best list in the world and if we had a better coach, then you would see.
What a croc.
Port is an irrelevant club, with a victim mentality and a supporter base that screams in the mirror each morning because it tears them apart inside, that they are not as important as they wish they were.

Stating factual information about the stadium deal in response to a legitimate question about their AFL licence is playing the victim? What a bizarre take. Reads like someone who was looking for an excuse to go on an emotional rant.

 

[jakson68]

Stating factual information about the stadium deal in response to a legitimate question about their AFL licence is playing the victim? What a bizarre take. Reads like someone who was looking for an excuse to go on an emotional rant.

I didn't mention the stadium deal you are referring to.
Though I will add it to the long list of injustices that poor Port Power have to deal with.
I hope you are going to be ok, though I doubt it.
I am yet to meet a Port supporter who is content with life, as they always have some conspiracy theory to complain about.

Watch out for that 5G, while you are at it

 

[ash_78]

I didn't mention the stadium deal you are referring to.
Though I will add it to the long list of injustices that poor Port Power have to deal with.
I hope you are going to be ok, though I doubt it.
I am yet to meet a Port supporter who is content with life, as they always have some conspiracy theory to complain about.

Watch out for that 5G, while you are at it

Wow, another bizarre and emotionally charged response. Get help man - there's much more to life than online forums and being parochial about your footy team!

 

[1972championsofaust]

The Crows can represent my balls.

You don’t have any….

 

[Pies No 1]

Port are an Embarrassment. They are the only team that goes on about stuff like - "we have won 50 premierships in the SANFL, they should be included in AFL stats", "we are the oldest AFL team on earth", "we also want to have black and white stripes, as that's our SANFL colors"

And their fans also buy into this hoo haa. You cannot argue with a Port supporter that Port Adelaide Power was created as an AFL club. The Port Adelaide Magpies did not transplant themselves into the AFL. They are different teams. The name and colors were already taken, so a new team was created.

No other team or fans carry on like this. Sydney claim all of South Melbourne's flags, but I never hear Sydney supporters even mention it. Same with Brisbane - Fitzroy, and Fremantle, Adelaide, etc. Even Melbourne clubs could claim back to the 1850's if they want. This banging on about the past is the most irritating thing about Port...

 

[kreuze_missile]

Kochie, Kane Cornes, Annual sulking about the prison bars and "Never tear us apart".

Crows are harmless, arguably irrelevant outside the state of South Australia.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Port are an Embarrassment. They are the only team that goes on about stuff like - "we have won 50 premierships in the SANFL, they should be included in AFL stats", "we are the oldest AFL team on earth", "we also want to have black and white stripes, as that's our SANFL colors"

See this is the standard delusion when it comes to Port. You have to make up things..

No one has claimed to win 50 SANFL Premierships, and claimed they should be included in AFL stats.

No one has claimed to be the oldest AFL team. We're pretty clearly not considering we only gained an AFL team in 1997. And even if we're talking about Australian Rules Football clubs, then its pretty obvious that Melbourne is older.

No one wants to ear black and white stripes, we want to wear the Port Adelaide Football Club guernsey that the club has worn for most of its existence. And has had its

The CFC even acknowledge that Port's guernsey isn't black and white stripes with their social media this year that talked about Dan Houston pulling on the black and white stripes for the first time this year.

And their fans also buy into this hoo haa. You cannot argue with a Port supporter that Port Adelaide Power was created as an AFL club. The Port Adelaide Magpies did not transplant themselves into the AFL. They are different teams. The name and colors were already taken, so a new team was created.

You also cannot argue that the sky is green. Because its just a straight up incorrect argument.

 

[Mr39]

Port are an Embarrassment. They are the only team that goes on about stuff like - "we have won 50 premierships in the SANFL, they should be included in AFL stats", "we are the oldest AFL team on earth", "we also want to have black and white stripes, as that's our SANFL colors"

And their fans also buy into this hoo haa. You cannot argue with a Port supporter that Port Adelaide Power was created as an AFL club. The Port Adelaide Magpies did not transplant themselves into the AFL. They are different teams. The name and colors were already taken, so a new team was created.

No other team or fans carry on like this. Sydney claim all of South Melbourne's flags, but I never hear Sydney supporters even mention it. Same with Brisbane - Fitzroy, and Fremantle, Adelaide, etc. Even Melbourne clubs could claim back to the 1850's if they want. This banging on about the past is the most irritating thing about Port...

Seek help mate. You’re cooked.


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[1990crow]

Port are an Embarrassment. They are the only team that goes on about stuff like - "we have won 50 premierships in the SANFL, they should be included in AFL stats", "we are the oldest AFL team on earth", "we also want to have black and white stripes, as that's our SANFL colors"

And their fans also buy into this hoo haa. You cannot argue with a Port supporter that Port Adelaide Power was created as an AFL club. The Port Adelaide Magpies did not transplant themselves into the AFL. They are different teams. The name and colors were already taken, so a new team was created.

No other team or fans carry on like this. Sydney claim all of South Melbourne's flags, but I never hear Sydney supporters even mention it. Same with Brisbane - Fitzroy, and Fremantle, Adelaide, etc. Even Melbourne clubs could claim back to the 1850's if they want. This banging on about the past is the most irritating thing about Port...

Port Adelaide is the equivalent of the MAGA movement. Not a lot of facts, just nationalistic BS.

 

[1990crow]

Kochie, Kane Cornes, Annual sulking about the prison bars and "Never tear us apart".

Crows are harmless, arguably irrelevant outside the state of South Australia.

For now, I hope.

 

[Angus Young]

Apart from our drivers Adelaide is a great place to live; unlike some other places in this country.

hahahaha

No it´s not. Stop lying. It's so flipping boring.

Nothing town.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Port Adelaide is the equivalent of the MAGA movement. Not a lot of facts, just nationalistic BS.

He says quoting a post that is full of alternative facts crap.

 

[Papa G]

Port Adelaide is the equivalent of the MAGA movement. Not a lot of facts, just nationalistic BS.

Odd take. Considering the Crows' entire marketing strategy is revolved around state based patriotism, "The Pride of South Australia" Stare Colours, State Moniker, State shaped new logo, "Made From South Australia" theme. Would this not be the definition of MAGA type marketing?