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Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

When will Trump be finished?

  • Right now. Bloke's a dickhead.

    Votes: 50 43.5%
  • We'll let him run, we'll wipe him out after the election. Be way funnier that way!

    Votes: 12 10.4%
  • At some point, Trump will wipe out all options except for him. Send him to jail.

    Votes: 11 9.6%
  • Needs to be next president of the ICC.

    Votes: 1 0.9%
  • Clean the swamp, Trump2025!

    Votes: 39 33.9%
  • It's not enough to just elect him, him ahead of anyone else!

    Votes: 2 1.7%

  • Total voters
    115

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The whole system is moving that way. Looks like the GOP want to get all the way there first, to lock the Dems out.

Both sides are definitely supporting the fascist Israeli PM. But the US have been supporting murderous communists, fascists and monarchies whenever they feel like it suits US interests best.
Sure. So in my opinion , to get back from the brink you need better dialogue and better ideas , not finger pointing while actually enacting fascist policy and laws.
 
If you are disgusted by Epstein, why are you supporting Trump, who has far more links to him than Biden or Harris? The story doesn't gel.
Again I don’t support trump, I’d say I can empathise with his supporters who are essentially the lower middle class that’s been unrepresented for 20 or so years by the traditional left wing parties that used to.
 
The past four years have been chock full of fascist /totalitarian moves by the dems, finally culminating in funding and supporting genocide, I feel like there’s a lot of projection going on .

No.

Stop trying to convince yourself the two major parties are in any way comparable on their actions regarding democracy or fascism.

The standard US policy to support Israel irrespective also transcends party lines. It's been going on for decades, and will likely continue for decades. I wouldn't lay it at the feet of any particular US leader, but it's quite clear Harris is at least uncomfortable with what's going on over there, if unwilling to do anything about it.
 
I’d say I can empathise with his supporters who are essentially the lower middle class that’s been unrepresented for 20 or so years

Maybe in 2016 you could have rolled with this one.

It's 2024. We've seen a Trump Presidency. We know what he did for the lower middle class - nothing.
 

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No.

Stop trying to convince yourself the two major parties are in any way comparable on their actions regarding democracy or fascism.

The standard US policy to support Israel irrespective also transcends party lines. It's been going on for decades, and will likely continue for decades. I wouldn't lay it at the feet of any particular US leader, but it's quite clear Harris is at least uncomfortable with what's going on over there, if unwilling to do anything about it.
Just because the foreign influence is entrenched doesn’t make it right, it’s straining the economy , and it’s destroying prestige. Biden enacted some law recently to allow defence force to use lethal actions against citizens on home soil. Sounds facist to me.
 
Just because the foreign influence is entrenched doesn’t make it right, it’s straining the economy , and it’s destroying prestige.

I'll need sources for this claim, 'foreign influence' is extremely nebulous.

Are you talking off-shore manufacturing? Global trade? Tourism? Internet access? Ability to stream Scandinavian crime shows?

What economic strain is it causing? How?

What prestige is being destroyed?

Biden enacted some law recently to allow defence force to use lethal actions against citizens on home soil. Sounds facist to me.

What law? Sources friend.

This isn't the conspiracy board. Claims require sources.
 
I'll need sources for this claim, 'foreign influence' is extremely nebulous.

Are you talking off-shore manufacturing? Global trade? Tourism? Internet access? Ability to stream Scandinavian crime shows?

What economic strain is it causing? How?

What prestige is being destroyed?



What law? Sources friend.

This isn't the conspiracy board. Claims require sources.
Aipac funds all of them, that’s foreign interference. They have homeless camps in all major cities, poor response to Hawaiian fires, poor response to latest floods. The 100 billion$ they spent on Israel could end homelessness.

Look at all the ridiculous claims made about trump on here, hold me to the same standard, which is none, except I’ll play the ball not the man. I can find all info but it takes time, and I have other stuff to do.
 

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If you read Trumps resume, you'd never hire him.

He's failed at every job he's ever had. He's a multi-time convicted felon. He's well past retirement age.

He'd struggle to get hired for almost any job you can think of.
He got the number one job and it looks like he’ll get it again.
 
Aipac funds all of them, that’s foreign interference. They have homeless camps in all major cities, poor response to Hawaiian fires, poor response to latest floods. The 100 billion$ they spent on Israel could end homelessness.

Look at all the ridiculous claims made about trump on here, hold me to the same standard, which is none, except I’ll play the ball not the man. I can find all info but it takes time, and I have other stuff to do.
The only thing a Trump presidency would change in the ME is that Netanyahu will act with even greater impunity. It was Trump who moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem in the first place so it's probably best saving your crocodile tears for a different issue.
 
Aipac funds all of them, that’s foreign interference.

Plenty of foreign lobby groups, and domestic ones. I'm all for ending lobby groups, they don't do much good for the people.

They have homeless camps in all major cities, poor response to Hawaiian fires, poor response to latest floods.

Agree, the US welfare system is poor. They need to move back to the left (their policies in the 50s and 60s would seem socialist by comparison to today) instead of plunging further and further right in to an Oligarchy.

The 100 billion$ they spent on Israel could end homelessness.

Sure. But those funds aren't fungible. They're not being spent elsewhere.

Look at all the ridiculous claims made about trump on here, hold me to the same standard, which is none, except I’ll play the ball not the man. I can find all info but it takes time, and I have other stuff to do.

Ridiculous? Most of the claims about Trump relate to shit he's actually said and done, whilst the pro-Trump or the 'just joking pro-Trump' cohort pretend he didn't really mean what he said, or what he did, or that it's all made up.

If you're making a claim about a law Biden signed then it should be pretty easy to dig up. All laws are documented.

He got the number one job and it looks like he’ll get it again.

Because voters don't actually vote the way they hire.

If you're 'hiring' a candidate Harris is by a significant margin more qualified. She's worked her way up from the bottom. She's also not a convicted felon.
 
. It was only after they had the power from an election that they tore it down.
It only took them 5 months to pass laws to abolish all other political parties.

On 5 March 1933, the Nazi Party won 44 per cent of the vote, which gave them 288 seats in the Reichstag. Hitler formed a coalition with the National Party (8 per cent). The Communist party won 81 seats.

The Enabling Act​

23 March 1933​

With the communist deputies banned and the SA intimidating all the remaining non-Nazi deputies, the Reichstag voted by the required two-thirds majority to give Hitler the right to make laws without the Reichstag's approval for four years.
Arguably this was the critical event during this period. It gave Hitler absolute power to make laws, which enabled him to destroy all opposition to his rule. This removed the Reichstag as a source of opposition.

Trade unions​

On 2 May 1933, trade unions were abolished and their leaders arrested. Abolishing the trade unions allowed Hitler to destroy a group that might have opposed him. It also gave Hitler the opportunity to set up the German Labour Front (Deutsche Arbeitsfront – DAF), which gave him control over German workers.

Political parties​

By 14 July 1933, Hitler had banned all political parties meaning the only party allowed to exist was the Nazi party. This made Germany a one-party state and destroyed democracy in the country. After this action, Germans could no longer get rid of Hitler in an election
 

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Trump and his pals are revolting people- all about ugliness and hate. You can’t spew out all that vitriol and expect it to have no impact. Of course it enables the nutters. To defend their decidedly offensive speakers by saying -it’s just a joke- get over the wokeness, just tells me that these are ignorant and unpleasant people, who are a long way out of their depth. You don’t want them as your friends, you don’t want them near your family, you sure don’t want them in charge of a country. Gee I hope they lose and crawl away.
Comon America- show us you have more goodies than weakies.
 
If you read Trumps resume, you'd never hire him.

He's failed at every job he's ever had. He's a multi-time convicted felon. He's well past retirement age.

He'd struggle to get hired for almost any job you can think of.
Got me thinking what job the Warden is going to give Trump. Laundry? workshop? kitchen?

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It's one thing I do notice when I watch actual current US TV, and movies. There are so many lgbt characters now, not to mention the mixed races you posted about. It must be frightening for those who have fossilized phobias or hatred against them.
It is massive in advertising as well. There must be some research behind it.
 
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