Play Nice 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

Continued from Part 1 - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/2024-us-presidential-election-trump-vs-harris.1383317/

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USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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< - Trump 19 is back there.

 

[Carringbush2010]

People often come up with the wrong answer to polarisation, they think it’s to go both sidesy, and believe any bat shit insanity the most extreme says.

I'd argue that these 'people' are the minuscule minority, even though msm would have you believe otherwise.

 

[Satan]

I’m married w kids I don’t go to parties

But when you do

 

[Carringbush2010]

Yes if he is Orban 2.0, like that’s a win?

Certainly not.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I’m married w kids I don’t go to parties

It wasn't an invitation

 

[Blue1980]

I'd argue that these 'people' are the minuscule minority, even though msm would have you believe otherwise.

I’m talking about media normalising clearly bad faith politicians and normalising them.

 

[Blue1980]

Certainly not.

I get the feeling many seem to think anything short of Trump setting up death camps would prove any concern about him was overblown.

Orban is certainly very instructive to what Trump wants to do, and openly admires him.

 

[Carringbush2010]

I’m talking about media normalising clearly bad faith politicians and normalising them.

Yeah and people believe because of that normalizing that it is popular belief, when it isn't.

 

[Blue1980]

Yeah and people believe because of that normalizing that it is popular belief, when it isn't.

It makes it more palatable to a large section of the population though, like "oh thats just how things are now"

 

[Carringbush2010]

It makes it more palatable to a large section of the population though, like "oh thats just how things are now"

Apathy I guess.

 

[Chief]

While our ABC continues to report the US election as if it was an uninterested spectator in a football friendly, Mark Kenny, one of the calmest and sanest voices we have left in Australian journalism, calling this out for what it is.



The glaring reality is that even if Trump loses, the culture of division and hatred he has spawned and, which no longer content to lurk in the shadows, is not going anywhere.

They don't even have a weird conspiracy theory to fall back on. It's just hate and racism now. They have edged their fans closer and closer to the far right, but now they aren't hiding it behind the weird Q shit.

2015/16 they were actually reposting memes they had edited to be less obviously anti-Semitic.

It's all out there now. Years of pushing great replacement theory and trying to look like there were facts behind their hate, now they've just gone ham on it in official public events.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I think Cuomo sums it up reasonably well.

LOL, it's facile and superficial at best.

Of course, that appeals to some people here.

 

[Bloods86]

Fair enough. I’ll exit and let the echo chamber do it’s thing, and will read on happily when the Americans select the obviously better candidate in two weeks

It's 1 week.

And yes, the obvious answer to someone questioning your ability to provide facts and substance with your claims, is to pretend like you're being silenced and continuing to repeat simple assertions over and over.

 

[Spearman]

Jill Stein is also running for her third time, just like Donny.

Nader ran 3 times.

Pat Paulsen maybe a half dozen?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

An alignment of government and media to influence an election, gaslighting for 3.5 years that an obviously senile guy was fit to serve , pushing an experimental vaccine on everybody and persecuting anyone who won’t take it, refusing to use diplomacy over Ukraine leading to a horrible war, attempts to prosecute Trump( trump could have prosecuted Hilary but chose not to cos that’s undemocratic ). And this latest genocide has no parallels it's basically a mass trauma event since the horror of dead children, orphans crying for parents etc is broadcast over social media in a way that’s never been seen before. The massive use of bots is pretty crazy, as is the extremism that’s been promoted even by sites like this one is pretty disturbing.

You are either extremely gullible or extremely dishonest. You keep posting things that are simply untrue. It is complete bullshit to say that "trump could have prosecuted Hilary but chose not to cos that’s undemocratic".

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...g-prosecute-hillary-clinton-matter-rcna177266

https://apnews.com/article/060ca2399a744b4a9554dbd2ec276a90

https://www.justsecurity.org/98703/chronology-trump-justice-department/

 

[60 Yards Out]

Walk me through how one deports 11 million people.

Maybe one might need a special solution, might need a name….

... without creating a recession. Especially while you're also putting up a giant tariff wall that would wreck the economy on its own.
If Trump actually believes in this crap he is truly the stupidest person ever to run for president, let alone fluke a term in the office.
If not, he is still the most criminal, incompetent, etc.

 

[Xtreme]

Good thing in Australia we have a greater sense of collectivism for the greater good than the US.

If that were true Albo would not be PM!

 

[Saint]

You are either extremely gullible or extremely dishonest. You keep posting things that are simply untrue. It is complete bullshit to say that "trump could have prosecuted Hilary but chose not to cos that’s undemocratic".

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow...g-prosecute-hillary-clinton-matter-rcna177266

https://apnews.com/article/060ca2399a744b4a9554dbd2ec276a90

https://www.justsecurity.org/98703/chronology-trump-justice-department/

And also that the Democrats "weaponised the Justice Department" like what happened to Hilary about Benghazi or Ken Starr's investigation into a property deal and suicide of a friend of Bill Clinton which took four years and ended up enquiring about sex in the White House (which doesn't seem relevant to a property deal or suicide). WHat a coincidence that Brett Kavanaugh worked for Ken Starr and now sits on the Supreme Court.

But it's the Dems who weaponised the Justice Department, even though Trump was found guilty of a felony?

 

[Saint]

I reckon the Puerto Rico joke and Trump not backing away from it might have cost him the election. I reckon a lot of Latino voters might have held their nose and voted Trump, but not now. Particularly bad in Pennsylvania, which is still the critical keystone state.

 

[TheSunGod]

And what makes you think this, the vibe?

The pandemic was a test of the social contract, are we willing to make sacrifices to help other people. For too many people, the answer was no, going out was more important than whether some people lived and died. What a shiteful indictment that is on those people.

It also exposed the idiots among us, those that thought doing 'their own research' online trumped the combined experience of infectious disease experts. Here we are years down the track and the vaccine hasn't been exposed as poison and is still recommended to ward against COVID.

Reminds me of the VP debate where JD Vance said something along the lines of we should ignore the experts because they’ve been wrong too often and just use common sense to make decisions. I was surprised he didn’t get much criticism for that. Common sense would be to listen to the experts and then make a judgement based off common sense.

 

[TheSunGod]

Are you being deliberately disingenuous or are you just poorly informed?

There are hundreds of accounts by people who worked for him and decent political journalists of how his worst intentions were kept in check by the guardrails of democracy & people who refused to break the law/constitution on his behalf.

This time he & his billionaire/fundamentalist backers are much better prepared to dismantle the checks & balances.

Here’s just a few of what those closest have said about him…

WHAT 17 OF TRUMP’S ‘BEST PEOPLE’ SAID ABOUT HIM

Rex Tillerson is my favourite “ He’s a f**king moron!”

 

[TheSunGod]

They don't even have a weird conspiracy theory to fall back on. It's just hate and racism now. They have edged their fans closer and closer to the far right, but now they aren't hiding it behind the weird Q shit.

2015/16 they were actually reposting memes they had edited to be less obviously anti-Semitic.

It's all out there now. Years of pushing great replacement theory and trying to look like there were facts behind their hate, now they've just gone ham on it in official public events.

Was watching a video of a young bloke interviewing attendees outside MSG and the racism was clearly on show. Apparently the democrats are trying to replace the white race and Trump is their saviour. DonOld has truly brainwashed them and appealed to their worst instincts.

 

[Sqotty from office works]

Walk me through how one deports 11 million people.

Maybe one might need a special solution, might need a name….

Don't know if he gets this started IF he wins.

But it will be part of sociology studies for 1,000s of years if it happens.
Just imagine the political chatter worldwide and the endless political commentary on TV.

 

[campbell]

Don't know if he gets this started IF he wins.

But it will be part of sociology studies for 1,000s of years if it happens.
Just imagine the political chatter worldwide and the endless police commentary on TV.

He is a dumb bunny.

The way ICE works, is that the country they want to send a person to , has to agree.

mmmmm.

Silly twit..They aint taking anyone back.

 

[Chief]

Was watching a video of a young bloke interviewing attendees outside MSG and the racism was clearly on show. Apparently the democrats are trying to replace the white race and Trump is their saviour. DonOld has truly brainwashed them and appealed to their worst instincts.

TBH it's always been about race, we knew that. From day one. People seem to be admitting it now.

 

[swingdog]

He is a dumb bunny.

The way ICE works, is that the country they want to send a person to , has to agree.

mmmmm.

Silly twit..They aint taking anyone back.

Grievance politics isn't about solutions. Indeed, it's the opposite.

It's about stoking an issue to keep your base riled up.

It used to be abortion for the Republicans until the dog caught the car, and it's the same with Dutton and his nuclear fantasies here.