USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[bourbons]

This notion that Twitter is better today than it was before Elon purchased it cannot be backed up with a single quantifiable metric.

Luckily Balls In doesn't trouble himself with those, strictly vibes and feels only

 

[Mick F]

Not encouraging? Not dropping hints? Not inciting hate and violence under the guise of 'humour'.

Maybe, 'that's just Trump". No, not good enough!

Where have you been for the past 8 years?

More buffoon statements that didn't end well.

Stand back and stand by
Jan 6 It is going to be wild.

These are NOT isolated incidences.

Why he is in free fall with female voters.

Boys like insults, put-downs and violence. Women don’t.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

Holy shit is that for real and/or legal?

ie. Trump has never conceded 2020 and surely bets on Biden still got paid out.

They indeed did. Was my biggest betting win of the year (says more about that year for me than anything else)

 

[Financialpanther]

Luckily Balls In doesn't trouble himself with those, strictly vibes and feels only

He'd have to change his name to Balls Out.

 

[Blue1980]

not even claiming a win though for trump. We can easily string trump up with accurate statements, why leave the door open for MAGA grifters to play "misinformation"

Yeah, to me it was just an example of trump using violent rhetoric.

It’s also rhetoric no one else would be able to get away with on the Democrat side.

If Kamala said she wouldn’t mind people trying to shoot Fox News or right wing journalists, how do you think that would have gone down?

 

[bourbons]

I look forward to the day Pete runs for president

Funniest part of that was the Fox host saying "thats no way to break bread and make peace".

Coz yeah of course, thats what Trump and the GOP are all about

 

[Blue1980]

I got confused between Jill Stein and Josh Stein

And in other news his opponent is the current Republican Lieutenant Governor of NC in a Democratic Governors office

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Yeah I hear Stein and I’m like “wtf she’s governor of North Carolina but identifies as male there?”

 

[Blue1980]

Funniest part of that was the Fox host saying "thats no way to break bread and make peace".

Coz yeah of course, thats what Trump and the GOP are all about

Fox host saying “why can’t you guys just let Trump win and do what he likes, we’d all then get along”

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

lol they go from ‘we’re deporting 20 million’ to ‘don’t call us names we’re just smol’ very quickly


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[samFFC]

Cross post here

It’s over

Iowa poll spells the end for Trump.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/harris-tops-trump-latest-iowa-poll-marking-turnaround-des-moines-register-survey-2024-11-03/

Harris had the good sense to emphasise the impact of RvW in Iowa, once their archaic law came back into effect.

Harris urges Americans to vote after six-week abortion ban takes effect in Iowa

Court reinstates ban after lengthy legal battle in a decision pro-choice advocates call ‘violation of human rights’

www.theguardian.com

Amazingly, there has been essentially no polling since then, with assumption Trump gets another cruisy victory. This is a major red alert. Georgia and NC are two swing states where restrictive laws came into effect. The Georgia Supreme court had the good sense to promptly reinstate their significantly restrictive law less than 2 months before an election.

Georgia Supreme Court Reinstates Six-Week Abortion Ban | American Civil Liberties Union

ATLANTA — The Supreme Court of Georgia issued a ruling today staying a trial court decision striking down H.B. 481, a ban on abortion after...

www.aclu.org

For context, Iowa background - always important in primary season, but Federally has been less so for a while

Obama won it twice, Trump has won it twice - Won it by 10 points in 2016, 8 points in 2020.

Senate wise they’ve had one very longstanding (since 1981!!) GOP senator, the other one won in 2014 and comfortably won in 2020. Tellingly, the polls around Iowa in 2020 were WAY off.

In that Senate election, the polls were basically a toss up - some showed the Dem ahead, some the Rep ahead, and she ended up winning by >6 points. 51.7-45.1

2020 United States Senate election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Importantly, the Des Moines register poll had it 46-42 to the republican (11% undecided).

Similarly, in the Pres election, the polls were again tight. Trump ahead by 1-2 points at most, and lots of polls had it 50/50 or Biden ahead. Selzer/Des Moines poll had it 48-41 (8% other, 2% undecided) to Trump, which was easily an outlier.

2020 United States presidential election in Iowa - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The result - Trump 53.1-45.9%. Essentially bang on.


It’s over.

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

Holy shit is that for real and/or legal?

ie. Trump has never conceded 2020 and surely bets on Biden still got paid out.

They paid out on the inauguation day if I remember properly

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

This mass deportation if done will crash the economy economists are saying

 

[Strange Cat]

lol they go from ‘we’re deporting 20 million’ to ‘don’t call us names we’re just smol’ very quickly


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Much like the Nazis they’ll eventually deny they ever supported him …even with social media and footages showing otherwise

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Surely you are better than this?

What I am pointing out that is part of a pattern and his comments don't need clarification irrespective of the headline.

He knows what he is saying and who he is speaking to.

Now do you get it?

i dont care what pattern you are trying to establish; you are probably right in regard to the other situations you mentioned, but i was not talking about those was I.

but in regard to that specific tweet, and i was only talking about that specific tweet. he was not encouraging anything.

Bash Trump or Harris all you want. just be accurate when doing it. Surely you are better than this?

 

[Satan]

fatigue or worse

 

[Blue1980]

lol they go from ‘we’re deporting 20 million’ to ‘don’t call us names we’re just smol’ very quickly


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Like a fair few posters around here.

It seems the last trick they use when they know all their other arguments and whataboutism have been debunked and not working.

In short it means they know they have lost the argument.

 

[Maggie5]

but in regard to that specific tweet, and i was only talking about that specific tweet. he was not encouraging anything.

WRONG!

 

[bourbons]

How is calling trump a buffoon defending him rofl.

Because characterising Trump's indifference to media reps literally being shot for no other reason than they are critical of him as "buffoonery" falls so far short of the mark its ridiculous

Really mate its not complicated.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Would you let trump date your sister or daughter?

no, the guys an arseh*le.

doesn't change a factual statement that what he said wasn't encouraging anything though.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

WRONG!

yes, you are.

 

[Maggie5]

rofl

X worth 80 per cent less under Musk, investment giant says

www.9news.com.au

Now he probably didn't buy it to keep it valuable and doesn't care if it isn't, but thats not quite the same thing is it.

I read somewhere that DJT is worth more thzn X at the moment.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Because characterising Trump's indifference to media reps literally being shot for no other reason than they are critical of him "buffoonery" falls so far short of the mark its ridiculous

Really mate its not complicated.

no, he said if someone wanted to shoot him through bullet proof glass, they would have to shoot through the media to get to him

he did not say what you are suggesting.......and you even used the word literally............which you have misused, just like the tweet did with encouraged

 

[Aristotle Pickett the3rd]

no, the guys an arseh*le.

doesn't change a factual statement that what he said wasn't encouraging anything though.

That's debatable but he did encourage an insurrection

 

[HirdsTheWord]

That's debatable but he did encourage an insurrection

that's great.

Thats not what the tweet in question was referencing.

confused what your point is here AP

 

[Crankyhawk]

That's debatable but he did encourage an insurrection

and it is fair to repeatedly bring that up (the insurrection)
but that is not what HTW is pointing out.