Autopsy US Election Day Thread - Trump 47th President of the United States

[Gethelred]

The race is run, the winner declared!

For further discussion of the election:

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

I will be keen to watch the handover on J6 I think, Will the Bidens attend unlike Trump? Will the crowd be the biggest in history, Will there be a magical Mystery victory tour and rallies like 2016, Will he reduce his golf games and stop heading North in the Summer or home to Fl in the winter...

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For discussion of the incoming president:

Play Nice - 47th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 20: If you want Capitalism, you got it

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For discussion of the losing candidate:

USA - Kamala Harris Concedes. God Help America

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Enjoy, all!

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Turns out, the reluctance to try new media bit the dems hard.

Who'd have thunk it?

Issue is it is also a bit of a turning wheel. You got these right leaning YT channels with huge subscriber base + revenue streams created over 5+ years of work. Its a lot of work to chase them down and get on a even footing.

 

[tandino]

Yes, let's believe everything that's said on the internet.

Sure, homeless people exist in big cities and in many suburbs... but there are none hanging out in front of Eltham Woolies and Coles.

FWIW I've seen beggars hanging out between the two sliding doors at the carpark entrance at Coles, and outside the front doors at Woolworths, though not often and not for a little while.

 

[hippyhippy]

It's not everyday we get to see a potential collapse of an empire in 4k and dolby atmos.

We started seeing it 4 years ago... And we are still paying for it.

 

[Blue1980]

Like clockwork.

Explain.

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

Well it’s not like the Dems will storm the capitol …there’s that at least

Correct they’re more your arson, looting types.

 

[Thrawn]

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The prequel titles fit in so much better than that, especially considering Trump is more a Sith than a Jedi.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

the sheer joy some express at the possibility of russia rolling over ukraine is alarming and bizarre

I feel to be somewhere in the middle here. On one hand, the more I've come to learn about Putin and his rule the more I've come to loathe him. But I've also loathed U.S foreign policy and the NATO organisation throught most of my waking adult life and I feel Ukraine is the poor victim lashed arms and legs akimbo with two skittering monsters on either side each trying to tear its soul apart.

The U.S clearly wants to blunt Russian ambition by throwing every Ukrainian corpse that it can gather into the gears of the grinder, hoping it will eventually choke and splutter. Ignore the surface platitudes - as a political entity the United States does not give a solitary f*ck about Ukraine.

Russia does not give a solitary f*ck about Ukraine either. 'Saving' it from Nazis? Don't make me laugh.

I would one hundred percent back a truly neutral Ukraine. A Ukraine that allows either skittering monster to swallow its soul? Well, its civilian population has my sympathies...

 

[Rotayjay]

Look, ultimately I'm bummed that someone of Trump's character and policy platform is being elected US president again, but I won't lose too much sleep. It's not like this is a surprise. The polls had the swing states in a toss-up for months.

Now we get to see what happens.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Explain.

You've short-circuited.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I agree it was a mistake to skip Rogan, probably easy to say in hindsight but also wasn't going to change the result either.

If they even learn that lesson, it's going to take years for them to catch up.

Wasnt just Rogan she skipped. It was the other 20 too. She did 1 interview really on Howard Stern who is wildly unpopular nowadays. Trump went on the Undetakers podcast that even outdraws Stern.

Even if she did like 10 it could have made a difference, particularly when she had a huge issue with low voter turnout amongst the younger voters

 

[BigTacoBandit]

No , the Latinos did

Same thing according to him

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Then how do they tell us what percentage have been counted?

It's like one of those loading or update screens where the last 5 -10% takes longer than the 90%.

They don't know.

 

[Blue1980]

You've short-circuited.

Nope. Owens is a horrible person, whatever colour or sex she is.

Many in MAGA world wouldn't vote for her because she is black. Many said as much re Vivek.

 

[Gethelred]

Issue is it is also a bit of a turning wheel. You got these right leaning YT channels with huge subscriber base + revenue streams created over 5+ years of work. Its a lot of work to chase them down and get on a even footing.

Might be, but the problem isn't so much that there aren't Dems willing to do the work - once Harris became the nominee, the Democrats' social media presence on Youtube ****ing skyrocketed due to increased funding, pushing people and channels I'd never seen before into my feed - but that the Dems lack the fortitude to go over to those channels and take the chance to win a debate.

I've seen the Democrats win and lose debates, but I've never seen them put themselves in a position in which they don't know what will be asked of them before. They are back breakingly terrified of a question that wasn't briefed that they mightn't know how to answer, and that fear cripples them.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Wonder who Obama will pick for the Democrats to run in the next election.

Probably never hear the name Tim Waltz for the rest of our lives. Surely the worst VP pick of all time. Sarah Palin like areas.

I don't get to be VP?

 

[Stig O'Hara]

24/7 news cycle and social media, think the gen pop just tunes out.

Social media platforms are the new wonder drug.

This is a world of participation for likes in constant motion.

& now we are here.

 

[hippyhippy]

Don't confused democrats and corporate media defending them for progressives.

Bernie wing of dems = progressives (MSNBC/CNN etc hate Bernie and would prefer Trump or any other republican in charge)

There is only progressive left online... Centre left doesn't exist online ... Can you name a popular centre left democrat online community? Pretty sure that doesn't exist. Maybe bill Mayer but he's an idiot .. constantly calling out his own side but keeps ignoring it and supporting the same people. As a sign of how progressive democrats are now, they all want unlimited abortion, pronouns, men in women's Sports... So do moderate democrats exist anymore?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Thankfully you are probably right.

But what trump 100% is though is a televangelist like grifter. And a convicted felon.

Trump will do **** all for anyone and will use the office of the President to enrich himself. Same as last time. US debt will sky rocket. Same as last time. Inequality will widen further. Same as last time. And Trump will golf ever other day. Same as last time.

I have no idea why people vote for him. I really don't. The idea that he will help working people is laughable.

Umm

• Biden and Peolis net worth skyrocketed in the last 4 years.
• US debt has sky rocketed
• Inequality is wider now then it was in 2020
• Biden sat at the beach every other day

None of these things are changing here. You ignoring the fact it has happened for the last 4 years and acknowledging it in the next 4 is all that will happen

 

[ITCHY EYEBALLS]

For those happy Trump won, if he did extend term limits would that be a red line?

I personally don't think he will extend term limits, as he will be exonerated of all his charges by then, and he will be 82 by then.

I also think Musk/Vance etc will want to move on by that point.

Forgetting Trump for a second, I don’t think it would be such a bad thing.
Seems to work here ok.

 

[Gak Attack]

I agree it was a mistake to skip Rogan, probably easy to say in hindsight but also wasn't going to change the result either.

It's crazy that Joe Rogan is now more important than MSM but agree it was a big mistake. I didn't bother listening to the Trump one but did listen to Vance who I knew little about on it and he came across well with the extra discussion time it allows. As much as far left will claim Rogan and his audience are all rwnj that's clearly not true and there would be plenty of listeners who didn't like Trump that potentially could have been swayed by Harris if she could be relatable over 3 hours. Instead she fed into the narrative that she can't think for herself and needs to be managed.

 

[Cyber_punk]

Wasnt just Rogan she skipped. It was the other 20 too. She did 1 interview really on Howard Stern who is wildly unpopular nowadays. Trump went on the Undetakers podcast that even outdraws Stern.

Even if she did like 10 it could have made a difference, particularly when she had a huge issue with low voter turnout amongst the younger voters

Howard Stern...geez. Listened to him a small handful of times around 2006. Not sure his demographic of listeners but something tells me it's not anyone under 50..

 

[stefcep]

“A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world,” Trump began, clearly thinking the question himself, “So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light — and I think you said that that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way, and I think you said you’re going to test that, too. It sounds interesting. And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that.”

The word he used was "disinfectant" but this whole speel was borderline insane - especially when in public and during a pandemic where a lot of people were fearful of the unknown. But it's always "that's not what he meant" when he says something idiotic.

Later, Trump clarified his comments after a reporter asked Bryan whether disinfectants could actually be injected into COVID-19 patients.

"It wouldn’t be through injections, almost a cleaning and sterilization of an area. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t work, but it certainly has a big effect if it’s on a stationary object.

It was Biden who first used the word bleach.

 

[Blue1980]

There is only progressive left online... Centre left doesn't exist online ... Can you name a popular centre left democrat online community? Pretty sure that doesn't exist. Maybe bill Mayer but he's an idiot .. constantly calling out his own side but keeps ignoring it and supporting the same people. As a sign of how progressive democrats are now, they all want unlimited abortion, pronouns, men in women's Sports... So do moderate democrats exist anymore?

I think you confuse culture war nonsense for actual progressive economic policies, which is what the progressive left is about.

 

[Sir_Loin]

How’s Kevin Rudd feeling you reckon?

His sphincter would be twitching uncontrollably right now

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

There is only progressive left online... Centre left doesn't exist online ... Can you name a popular centre left democrat online community? Pretty sure that doesn't exist. Maybe bill Mayer but he's an idiot .. constantly calling out his own side but keeps ignoring it and supporting the same people. As a sign of how progressive democrats are now, they all want unlimited abortion, pronouns, men in women's Sports... So do moderate democrats exist anymore?

None exist because none have any money to afford to exist. Turning Point USA earns 100+ mill in revenue a year nowadays. I think that would outstrip every single Democrat leaning social media community combined on his lonesome