2025 Ladder Predictions

[Rod Stroker]

1. Collingwood
2. Brisbane
3. GWS
4. Geelong
5. Adelaide
6. Sydney
7.Hawthorn
8. Gold Coast

9. Fremantle
10. Carlton
11. W Bulldogs
12. Port Adelaide
13. Melbourne
14. St Kilda
15. Essendon
16. North Melb
17. West Coast
18. Richmond

Note that there has never been a year in the 18 comp system where both the 2 elimination final losers make the finals the next year.

You'd reckon with the list they've got Carlton should make finals next year. If they don't, it would just reinforce that Vossy was never the guy.

 

[Rod Stroker]

I think Freo are the Smokey for the flag next year. Play a great style when up and going.

I reckon the best team "when up and going" is your mob.

 

[jwint43]

I know everyone says the comp is weaker depth wise then it used to be, but jeez I think 14/18 sides have the quality to make the 8. It's going to be another extremely even and competitive year I think.

1. Brisbane
2. GWS
3. Freo
4. Collingwood
5. Hawks
6. Bulldogs
7. Port
8. Carlton
9. Geelong
10. Gold Coast
11. Adelaide
12. Saints
13. Sydney
14. Melbourne
15. Essendon
16. North
17. Eagles
18. Richmond

 

[Sinjin Smith]

It was actually 4.

He gave one off to Pendlebury.

But Bobby Hill is twice the player Fantasia is/was.

So no, anything is not possible.

Twice??? Try around 7 or 8.

 

[justlookingaround]

I know everyone says the comp is weaker depth wise then it used to be, but jeez I think 14/18 sides have the quality to make the 8. It's going to be another extremely even and competitive year I think.

1. Brisbane
2. GWS
3. Freo
4. Collingwood
5. Hawks
6. Bulldogs
7. Port
8. Carlton
9. Geelong
10. Gold Coast
11. Adelaide
12. Saints
13. Sydney
14. Melbourne
15. Essendon
16. North
17. Eagles
18. Richmond

This is more or less what I'm expecting, except without Geelong dropping, just cos they basically never do.

 

[greatgatsby]

1. GWS
2. Brisbane
3. Carlton
4. Freo
5. Bulldogs
6. Hawks
7. Geelong
8. Sydney
9. Suns
10. Adelaide
11. Collingwood
12. Port
13. Saints
14. Essendon
15. Melbourne
16. Eagles
17. North
18. Richmond

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Note that there has never been a year in the 18 comp system where both the 2 elimination final losers make the finals the next year.

Legit?

 

[justlookingaround]

Legit?

Yup, he's truthing.
This sort of thing only happens till it doesn't though.

 

[dexter_]

How does a team go from 12-6-1 to missing finals in the space of 4 weeks?
One of the all time great collapses.

Injuries to key players - Treacy, Darcy, Pearce all at once, plus Cox severely underdone derailed everything and we didn't have any experienced depth to cover for them. Despite that we were still competitive in the last month (Essendon 1pt, Geelong 11 pts, GWS 9 pts) If you add those guys to the team I think we would have won two of the last four.

 

[aussierulesrules]

How does a team go from 12-6-1 to missing finals in the space of 4 weeks?
One of the all time great collapses.

Injuries to multiple key personnel.

 

[austinnn]

My post-draft predictions for 2025 ladder after finals:

1 Bulldogs
2 Cats
3 Lions
4 Dockers
5 Saints
6 Giants
7 Magpies
8 Hawks
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9 Swans
10 Blues
11 Power
12 Suns
13 Kangaroos
14 Crows
15 Eagles
16 Demons
17 Bombers
18 Tigers

 

[Jezzitizle]

1. Geelong - range 1-8 (no clear no1, go with old faithful)
2. Freo - range 1-10
3. Dogs - range 1-10
4. Hawks - range 3-12
5. Port - range 3-10 (four more years!)
6. Blues - range 4-14
7. GWS - range 1-10
8. Sydney - range 5-10
9. Saints - range 6-16
10. North - range 9-17 (surely talent starts to tell at some point)
11. Suns - range 8-15
12. Brisbane - range 3-13 (thinking hunger wanes)
13. Pies - range 5-14 (may be in the need to rebuild but don’t yet know it dead zone)
14. Essendon - range 6-16
15. Adelaide - range 8-17
16. Dees - range 5-16 (implosion)
17. Eagles - range 17-18
18. Richmond - range 17-18

Tough year to pick, so most ranges are broad, close games will really matter.

Only teams I’d be confident in their positions are West Coast and Richmond.

 

[Giant Pete]

Freo
GWS
Pies
Lions
Cats
Hawks
Blues
Suns
Dogs
Swans
Port
Crows
Dees
Saints
Bombers
North
Eagles
Tigers

Finals… too hard.

 

[Pistol Night]

1. Geelong - range 1-8 (no clear no1, go with old faithful)
2. Freo - range 1-10
3. Dogs - range 1-10
4. Hawks - range 3-12
5. Port - range 3-10 (four more years!)
6. Blues - range 4-14
7. GWS - range 1-10
8. Sydney - range 5-10
9. Saints - range 6-16
10. North - range 9-17 (surely talent starts to tell at some point)
11. Suns - range 8-15
12. Brisbane - range 3-13 (thinking hunger wanes)
13. Pies - range 5-14 (may be in the need to rebuild but don’t yet know it dead zone)
14. Essendon - range 6-16
15. Adelaide - range 8-17
16. Dees - range 5-16 (implosion)
17. Eagles - range 17-18
18. Richmond - range 17-18

Tough year to pick, so most ranges are broad, close games will really matter.

Only teams I’d be confident in their positions are West Coast and Richmond.

This looks like the range I give the missus when she asks what time I’ll be home from the pub

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

This looks like the range I give the missus when she asks what time I’ll be home from the pub

1-12?

 

[Fadge]

1-12?

'About half past'

 

[Go the Guts]

Hawks remind me of the Lions circa 09/10. A false dawn.

We can only hope.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Position	Team	Likely Range	Comment
1	Carlton	1 - 4	Top 2 last year before cruelled by injury. Easy draw. I think it's a massive failure if they don't finish top 4.
2	GWS	1 - 4	Strong list with few weaknesses. Lost a few handy players but they are probably easily replaced. Perhaps depth could be an issue.
3	Fremantle	1 - 5	Building a strong list with plenty of upside for improvement across all areas of the ground.
4	Brisbane	1 - 5	Going to be very competitive again. Forward line structure a question mark without Daniher and so many quality small forwards.
5	Western Bulldogs	4 - 8	Always thereabouts. Bevo contract year could go either way for them. Lots of talent but some of their stars are aging.
6	Geelong	4 - 8	Ever reliable and professional. Just keep finding a way to get it done more often than not. Home ground advantage helps.
7	Sydney	4 - 8	Might slide a little after the heavy Grand Final loss and coaching change.
8	Adelaide	6 - 10	Should move up the ladder again this year with the easy draw. Better team than where they finished last year.
9	Hawthorn	6 - 10	Great young team with some excellent additions in the trade period. A much tougher draw will be the test.
10	Melbourne	8 - 12	Mostly competitive. Season depends on how Petracca and Oliver bounce back. Some promising young kids.
11	Collingwood	8 - 12	Aging list but some very solid pick-ups in the trade period. Is it enough to propel them back into finals?
12	Gold Coast	9 - 14	Difficult team to trust. No shortage of talent but their away record needs to improve significantly.
13	Essendon	9 - 14	Haven't really improved their list all that much on last year. Not sure where the improvement comes from to push into the 8.
14	Port Adelaide	8 - 14	Hinkley contract year. Tough draw. Some great talent on their list but also some holes still remain. Hard to predict.
15	North Melbourne	15 - 18	Brought in some much needed experience mixed with heaps of young talent. Should start to take some steps forward.
16	St. Kilda	15 - 18	List hasn't really improved on last year. Ross will keep them competitive but do they get enough improvement out of their talented kids?
17	Richmond	15 - 18	Tough year with injuries last year had them well below where they should have finished. List overhaul will take a bit of time.
18	West Coast	15 - 18	Just don't see enough improvement in their list or talented youngsters outside of Reid and maybe Ginbey. Home ground advantage helps.

 

[Run n Spread]

GWS
Brisbane
Collingwood
Carlton
Freo
Dogs
North
Geelong

Hawks
 Swans
Gold Coast
Crows
Saints
Port
 Essendon
Melbourne
West Coast
Richmond

 

[Matrix10]

Carlton 14th?

[Awaits the pile on]

Too high you think !

 

[JPetro83]

Based on what exactly?

Just from watching footy over the past 35 years... seeing young teams overachieve in a year, come out the next thinking its just going to happen for them.. especially this Hawthorn group.. full of cocky arrogance and i just think (my opinion) that 2025 wont be as good as 2024 for Hawthorn. THATS ALL....

 

[Piggy Smalls]

GWS
Brisbane
Fremantle
Sydney
Port Adelaide
Gold Coast
Adelaide
West Coast

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Hawthorn
Melbourne
North Melbourne
Richmond
Saints
Western Bulldogs

 

[The Feeder Club]

GWS
Brisbane
Fremantle
Sydney
Port Adelaide
Gold Coast
Adelaide
West Coast

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Hawthorn
Melbourne
North Melbourne
Richmond
Saints
Western Bulldogs

To the #VICBIAS thread

 

[Piggy Smalls]

To the #VICBIAS thread

AFL would probably consider folding the comp if it ever happened

 

[TheFourPillars]

Just from watching footy over the past 35 years... seeing young teams overachieve in a year, come out the next thinking its just going to happen for them.. especially this Hawthorn group.. full of cocky arrogance and i just think (my opinion) that 2025 wont be as good as 2024 for Hawthorn. THATS ALL....

You can not overachieve its impossible you can only achieve what you are capable off.

The second statement is interesting because it is often the reason ppl try and tear down a person or a team. "Especially this team because of you know cockiness". Didn't stop many great sportsman and women and many great teams. In fact the thing that made them great was the cockiness, the self belief, the arrogance. Lets see if this Hawthorn group can live up to its own expectations.

35 years is long time to be watching football. I have been watching for little longer. In that time you should know that hawthorn have been very successful. Its not a fluke. Supporters from all other clubs seem to think so. Its like calling for the demise of Geelong recently. Its no fluke that they keep playing finals. The culture and the people they have at the club makes it happen. Proof is in the pudding, lets see what happens next year. Thanks for responding