Banter Who will be Better in 2025, Collingwood or Carlton? Part 4

[Fadge]

Tougher competition at the Blues. As you always go on about, our top 6 is arguably the best there is in the league and then it drops away massively. Isn't that the line you've been peddling for years?

Sidebottom is factually a lesser player than Acres by every measure going into 2025. It's not even close really, just look at the stats linked above.

I thought the Blues were crucified with injury in 2024?

Why has Acres never finished top 5, or even top 10, at Freo?

You keep analysing by a stats sheet... I'll watch games of footy to form my views.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I thought the Blues were crucified with injury in 2024?

Why has Acres never finished top 5, or even top 10, at Freo?

You keep analysing by a stats sheet... I'll watch games of footy to form my views.

Fadge please tell me who from Carlton Sidebottom would finish ahead of out of

Cripps
Curnow
Weitering
Walsh
Mckay
DeKoning
Newman

Acres has finished 6th the last 2 years. Sidebottom 7th and 4th.

Finishing 1st 4 years ago doesn't mean SFA when you're now in your mid 30s and have regressed significantly.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

But if you want to stick with the whole eye test over stats thing Fudge thats fine by me. Just proves you're absolutely clueless and unwilling to accept facts.

 

[Fadge]

Fadge please tell me who from Carlton Sidebottom would finish ahead of out of

Cripps
Curnow
Weitering
Walsh
Mckay
DeKoning
Newman

Acres has finished 6th the last 2 years. Sidebottom 7th and 4th.

Finishing 1st 4 years ago doesn't mean SFA when you're now in your mid 30s and have regressed significantly.

The way those guys played last year, Steele would finish ahead of De Koning (missed too many games), Charlie (tailed off late in the season) and McKay.

Steele playing better footy still than Acres ever has.

 

[Fadge]

But if you want to stick with the whole eye test over stats thing Fudge thats fine by me. Just proves you're absolutely clueless and unwilling to accept facts.

Stats don't show the defensive roles you've played, the decisions you make, the difficulty of kicks you take on, the big plays in the big moments (reference Steele's goal from outside 50m late in the 2023 Grand Final).

Just because Steele's regressed from being one of the best players in the competition, doesn't mean he's regressed to the point of being a lesser player than a journeyman winger.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

The way those guys played last year, Steele would finish ahead of De Koning (missed too many games), Charlie (tailed off late in the season) and McKay.

Steele playing better footy still than Acres ever has.

Based on being statistically worse than him in almost every measure?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Stats don't show the defensive roles you've played, the decisions you make, the difficulty of kicks you take on, the big plays in the big moments (reference Steele's goal from outside 50m late in the 2023 Grand Final).

Just because Steele's regressed from being one of the best players in the competition, doesn't mean he's regressed to the point of being a lesser player than a journeyman winger.

Yes... Blake Acres who's known as one of the best defensive wings in the game... Who saved 2 goals on the line 2 finals in a row... Kicked the last minute sealer two games in a row in the 2023 finals campaign... Yes I'm sure none of that matters... Only Sidebottom's moments of brilliance count...

You are clueless.

 

[Fadge]

Based on being statistically worse than him in almost every measure?

Stats don't show the defensive roles you've played, the decisions you make, the difficulty of kicks you take on, the big plays in the big moments (reference Steele's goal from outside 50m late in the 2023 Grand Final).

Just because Steele's regressed from being one of the best players in the competition, doesn't mean he's regressed to the point of being a lesser player than a journeyman winger.

 

[Fadge]

Yes... Blake Acres who's known as one of the best defensive wings in the game... Who saved 2 goals on the line 2 finals in a row... Kicked the last minute sealer two games in a row in the 2023 finals campaign... Yes I'm sure none of that matters... Only Sidebottom's moments of brilliance count...

You are clueless.

What opponents has he shut down, in the same way Steele did Gulden and Neale in consecutive weeks late last year?

You're right though, I don't count performances in second rate finals. Qualifying, Preliminary and Grand Finals are the only ones that interest me.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Let me guess... Not a big game player!

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

What opponents has he shut down, in the same way Steele did Gulden and Neale in consecutive weeks late last year?

Fadge... Acres isn't our tagger you muppet. Cincotta and Hewett do shut down roles for the Blues.

Like saying what opponents has Cripps shut down recently... It's not his role lmao.

 

[Fadge]

Let me guess... Not a big game player!

Elimination Final
Semi Final

I guess they're as big as they come for Carlton supporters...

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Stats don't show the defensive roles you've played, the decisions you make, the difficulty of kicks you take on, the big plays in the big moments (reference Steele's goal from outside 50m late in the 2023 Grand Final).

Just because Steele's regressed from being one of the best players in the competition, doesn't mean he's regressed to the point of being a lesser player than a journeyman winger.

Fadge, stats don't show the decisions you make or the difficulty of kicks you take on, but they do show how many of them result in scores for your team and how many stay in your teams possessions.

Acres kicks more goals, creates more scores and gets more meters gained. Aka his ball use is more damaging than Sidebottom these days.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Elimination Final
Semi Final

I guess they're as big as they come for Carlton supporters...

Yeah... Theres also a prelim in there

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Anyway, theres no point arguing with someone who dismisses facts. Worst analyst on BigFooty.

 

[Robertio]

Stats don't show the defensive roles you've played, the decisions you make, the difficulty of kicks you take on, the big plays in the big moments (reference Steele's goal from outside 50m late in the 2023 Grand Final).

Just because Steele's regressed from being one of the best players in the competition, doesn't mean he's regressed to the point of being a lesser player than a journeyman winger.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

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Think I'll save this one for any time Fudger is trying to dismiss facts for fiction

 

[Corn Cobbers]

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What the hell is that? [emoji38] wrong country son

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[Corn Cobbers]

So the Blues have extended perenially hamstrung Cerra by FIVE YEARS [emoji38] Kornes is going nuts over this one

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[Fadge]

So the Blues have extended perenially hamstrung Cerra by FIVE YEARS [emoji38] Kornes is going nuts over this one

At least whilst they have him on the list the Carlton boys can keep blaming injuries for their underperformance...

 

[Robertio]

At least whilst they have him on the list the Carlton boys can keep blaming injuries for their underperformance...

I've seen that from the Pies supporters for under achieving in 2024.

 

[Arr0w]

"There they go again blaming injuries, the draw and umpiring"

 

[Arr0w]

I've seen that from the Pies supporters for under achieving in 2024.

Bingo

 

[Corn Cobbers]

At least whilst they have him on the list the Carlton boys can keep blaming injuries for their underperformance...

Crazy extension especially with TDK on the market and available to the highest bidder, not sure what they're thinking this time lol

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[Dewyyyyy]

Acres not fit to walk in Crisps shadow. I don’t think you realise how good Crisp is. How many B and Fs has Acres won? How many big finals has Acres peformed in? How many top 3 B and F finished has Acres had? Crisp also starts before Newman every day of the week.

Living in the past man