Bigman’s Training Reports

[spenze]

So drop Laird for publicly bagging a young player and support the kid.

Nicks selection decisions speaks for itself.

At least Laird went out the next week and showed what team first football was all about

 

[Cromulant]

It was a national football story right? Do I need to bring up the national stories?

Whether it went on for a a length of times is irrelevant, it received national exposure.

How can you say clearly the player didn’t? Have you spoken to Josh?

Just staggered you can think being publicly scolded by your senior players and dropped for the last game when you’ve made the top 10 of the B&F is no big deal to the player.

Because professional sports people have stronger mindsets than a bunch of nuffies like us on internet forums. He got on with the job in the SANFL and came back to training early.

He was publicly scolded for his celebration too, that act brought more attention than us dropping him

 

[CrowToon]

You really are a grumpy sod...

Why is it that everyone else gets it.

You pick strange battles.

I said Sorry. Unhurt your feelings.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Because professional sports people have stronger mindsets than a bunch of nuffies like us on internet forums. He got on with the job in the SANFL and came back to training early.

He was publicly scolded for his celebration too, that act brought more attention than us dropping him

So you don’t know

 

[Cromulant]

So you don’t know

It's obvious to someone with half a brain

Cmon George you're better than this

 

[George CantStandYa]

It's obvious to someone with half a brain

Cmon George you're better than this

No it’s not, don’t try and claim the high ground.

You’re assuming he was okay with being scolded publicly by teammates, made a national football story, dropped by his coach for the last game of the season.

He could have come out in the SANFL, come back to training as a **** you, I’ll show you, it doesn’t mean he was happy with how he was treated. Don’t assume you know because you don’t.

 

[George CantStandYa]

I said Sorry. Unhurt your feelings.

Dude you reacted to a lighthearted post like a flog and now you’re doubling down.

 

[Cromulant]

No it’s not, don’t try and claim the high ground.

You’re assuming he was okay with being scolded publicly by teammates, made a national football story, dropped by his coach for the last game of the season.

He could have come out in the SANFL, come back to training as a **** you, I’ll show you, it doesn’t mean he was happy with how he was treated. Don’t assume you know because you don’t.

I never ever said he would've been ok with the public scolding.

And yes ge COULD have done those things as a **** you, but it's but far the least likely option.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Yeah that makes sense. Nicks says Josh is in career form. Nicks drops Rachele for not being a team player and upholding team values. Nicks then applauds Josh for finishing so high in the B&F because he was such a team player and was so unselfish.

Vendetta? Or just a clueless buffoon, lurching from one ill-thought-out plan to the next?

 

[Cromulant]

Vendetta? Or just a clueless buffoon, lurching from one ill-thought-out plan to the next?

Lock in B

 

[George CantStandYa]

I never ever said he would've been ok with the public scolding.

And yes ge COULD have done those things as a **** you, but it's but far the least likely option.

Not it’s not

 

[Cromulant]

Not it’s not

In your world perhaps.

Anyway, we aren't going to agree so we'll leave it at that

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Because professional sports people have stronger mindsets than a bunch of nuffies like us on internet forums. He got on with the job in the SANFL and came back to training early.

He was publicly scolded for his celebration too, that act brought more attention than us dropping him

Even so, it's still a terrible idea. By airing our dirty laundry in public, we're just begging some other side to approach him with an offer.

 

[skittlebrew]

Let's not Chayce Jones Sid Draper

Please do not mention those two players in the same sentence ever again...

 

[CrowToon]

Dude you reacted to a lighthearted post like a flog and now you’re doubling down.

It's hilarious that a week ago I'm telling you to stop making so much out a flippant post and now you want to take this line?

I didnt realise it was a joke, he responded to me like a tool, I gave it back. If you want to swan in and make it even bigger go for it but the more you try to dip in to score points the more sad it becomes.

When you made more out of my comment than there was I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, he went with sass. Sass meets sass. He is a big boy and can look after himself
Move on.

 

[George CantStandYa]

It's hilarious that a week ago I'm telling you to stop making so much out a flippant post and now you want to take this line?

I didnt realise it was a joke, he responded to me like a tool, I gave it back. If you want to swan in and make it even bigger go for it but the more you try to dip in to score points the more sad it becomes.

When you made more out of my comment than there was I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, he went with sass. Sass meets sass. He is a big boy and can look after himself
Move on.

Chalk and cheese. You gave an opinion, he made a joke.

He didn’t respond like a tool, you did a few times.

Agree, move on.

 

[CrowToon]

Chalk and cheese. You gave an opinion, he made a joke.

He didn’t respond like a tool, you did a few times.

Agree, move on.

Noone is going to believe you are neutral in here, you always try to bite at people on this board who make you look second best intellectually.

And since you are not capable of being neutral all you do with these posts is derail threads.

There are mods for a reason, if you don't like my posts report them. Quit taking shots when you aren't involved because you are still sad from previous disagreements it's pathetic.

 

[AFC979810]

****ing hell - are we really posting about Instagram likes?

It was significant enough for Rachele to come out and publicly address it.

Its a new world - if you dont think professional athletes / agents use social media to convey messages to teams you are outta your mind.

And what the hell does it have to do with Nicks having a non existent vendetta against Rachele? It's not like Nicks has secretly been liking posts.

Well he liked a post saying that Nicks mishandled the situation. You know a few months after he publicly announced that Nicks hadn't communicated to him why he had been shunted out of the midfield.

 

[AFC979810]

He'd dropped him for being selfish and acting against team values. FFS, that's nothing to do with a vendetta.

Nicks publicly said it wasn't for the Port comments. That it was for continually acting against team values and being selfish.

That would be fine if he didnt come out and say that Rachele ranked so high in the B&F for playing such an unselfish role.

Nicks has wrapped his arms around Rachele multiple times - this offseason, but also before and after being dropped, and when the lad was being criticised for not wanting physical contact.

Ha ha ha. Yeah - the Nicks / Rachele relationship was perfect all through 2024.

 

[AFC979810]

Vendetta? Or just a clueless buffoon, lurching from one ill-thought-out plan to the next?

I think it was.

What old mate is also forgetting is that its not just his axing in Rd 24 followed by Nicks publicly condemning the 21 year old kid.

It was obvious to all and sundry last season that there was a serious problem between Rachele and Nicks. Here is a timeline to remind you. Easy enough to find the threads from last year.

Preseason - Rachele trains with midfielders. Club releases puff pieces about how he is gonna play more midfield and Rachele talks 50/50 split. Happy Days. This makes sense. He had a few games in the midfield and had 75 CBA's in 2023 - where he performed well.

Rounds 1 & 2 - Rachele gets 2 centre bounces.

Between weeks 2 & 3 - Rachele publicly talks about injecting himself into the midfield to help the team.

Rounds 3 & 4 - Rachele gets 0 Centre bounces. We move to 0-4.

Rounds 5 - 11 - Rachele gets a few centre bounces, but gets some serious CBA's against North Melbourne (57 point win) and West Coast (99 point win).

Round 12 - After getting crushed in the midfield by the Hawks (18-10 centre clearances). Rachele publicly comes out and in his words says

“We didn’t get a lot of inside-50s on the weekend, and I didn’t play a lot (in the) midfield again, (instead) playing mainly up the ground,” Rachele told 9News Adelaide on Tuesday. “It’s something that I probably don’t really know what’s going on,” the young forward-midfielder continued. “I’ll sit with the coaches and ask questions today about ‘how can I inject myself in the game?’ when I’m not getting too much of the ball.”
Nicks then says they had a great chat.

Rounds 13 - 23 - Rachele gets less CBA's for the rest of the season than Defender Max, Ben Keays, Dan Curtin, Hugh Bond, Zac Taylor in addition to the obvious midfield team of Crouch, Soligo, Dawson, Rankine, Berry and Laird.

Round 23 - Rachele talks crap about Port supporters. They boo him. He kicks a goal and taunts the fans. Nicks then drops him. A senior player blasts the kid and leaves him out to dry. Nicks then publicly says "It's not isolated, it's not a moment, it has got nothing to do with this week," Nicks told reporters on Friday. Nicks then confirms he has been dropped for continually refusing to adhere to team values.

"https://www.espn.com/afl/story/_/id...-rachele-axed-repeated-failures-matthew-nicks

Then during the week He 'accidentally' liked a comment on instagram "Disgusting what the club is doing hanging you out to dry. Would not blame you asking for a trade mate".

Then the B&F roles round. Rachele finishes 8th and is lauded for the selfless team first role he played.

But yeah - no issues between Rachele and Nicks. Happy days.

 

[George CantStandYa]

Noone is going to believe you are neutral in here, you always try to bite at people on this board who make you look second best intellectually.

And since you are not capable of being neutral all you do with these posts is derail threads.

There are mods for a reason, if you don't like my posts report them. Quit taking shots when you aren't involved because you are still sad from previous disagreements it's pathetic.

Are you including yourself as posters who make me look second best intellectually, because that’s quite funny.

Care to name the other posters who do? Or you just making baseless claims?

Not capable of being neutral? Sure I can be, plenty of debates I don’t get involved in. No one will believe I can be neutral? Thats baseless claims 3&4.

Still sad from previous disagreements? You brought up the previous disagreement not me. Baseless claim number 5.

You reacted to a joke like a tool, I made a comment, that’s what generally happens on this board, posters make comments. If you don’t like it, put me on ignore, it’s not that hard.

I have a question for you, was your post an example of a poster making me look second best intellectually?

 

[AFC979810]

There are mods for a reason, if you don't like my posts report them.

Please don't encourage this behavior. Reporting posts you don't like is pathetic.

 

[Pugsley]

You really are a grumpy sod...

Why is it that everyone else gets it.

You pick strange battles.

I am a fan of the ignore button.

 

[CrowToon]

Are you including yourself as posters who make me look second best intellectually, because that’s quite funny.

Care to name the other posters who do? Or you just making baseless claims?

Not capable of being neutral? Sure I can be, plenty of debates I don’t get involved in. No one will believe I can be neutral? Thats baseless claims 3&4.

Still sad from previous disagreements? You brought up the previous disagreement not me. Baseless claim number 5.

You reacted to a joke like a tool, I made a comment, that’s what generally happens on this board, posters make comments. If you don’t like it, put me on ignore, it’s not that hard.

I have a question for you, was your post an example of a poster making me look second best intellectually?

You know all of the answers to these questions.

 

[CrowToon]

Please don't encourage this behavior. Reporting posts you don't like is pathetic.

I'm simply following the convention of the forum and the line admins use. Their house their rules. Ignore button, ignoring the post. All valid options.