EDFL Premier Discussion 2025

[BEST OF EDFL]

Yet where's that 45k gone, similar list, that's almost half your salary

Players are adhering to the Keilor line playing for the jumper …

 

[Del228913]

Players are adhering to the Keilor line playing for the jumper …

Yep i think the disappointing thing is Keilor are no different to deer park or they are worse, deer park were never caught and I'd bet deer park if they get caught will get hammered by the edfl

 

[The Longblow]

How do I get the $20 back that I paid to get in to watch the 2023 grand final?.

 

[BlueJet]

They did take a flag off em mate

1 of 3.
Most would take that.

 

[Wysiwyg]

How do I get the $20 back that I paid to get in to watch the 2023 grand final?.

Always go through the social club mate!

 

[ontheroadagain]

I believe there is another EDFL club that has exceeded the salary cap. There hearing is later this week. They are a Div 2 club with no influence at head office. Good Luck for the minnow!!

Can’t take a flag off this mob though. Look out for what’s to come!! Might be a big bonanza

 

[thebluesmurf]

If you ever wanted to know what the problem with Keilor is… they’ve just handed it to you on a plate…

 

[Del227184]

They make mention of a “timing issue”
I wonder if something occurred like a player was given a $5,000 sign on bonus that was actually for season 2024 but they were paid whilst still in season 2023?

 

[NavyBluesFuture]

Went to school with Nick… and known him forever. He is DEFINITELY a Keilor man!
In fairness, a great bloke and I reckon he’d be unbiased and fair.

 

[ZingerAbed]

They make mention of a “timing issue”
I wonder if something occurred like a player was given a $5,000 sign on bonus that was actually for season 2024 but they were paid whilst still in season 2023?

I agree that’s how it appears

 

[Localsport]

I agree that’s how it appears

Spot on,, albeit a significant error, repeated multiple times to multiple players, hence the large figure!


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[Wysiwyg]

I agree that’s how it appears

bonus payments or inducements to keep players the following year but paid in the same year. Keilor believed it should have applied to 2024, not 2023.

 

[Calmdowngoldy]

A large group of presidents of clubs got together last year and voted overwhelmingly to either raise the cap or do away with it altogether. What will happen to Keilors sanctions if either of these two options are undertaken

 

[Survey]

How do I get the $20 back that I paid to get in to watch the 2023 grand final?.

Good Point

 

[Maxxxx]

bonus payments or inducements to keep players the following year but paid in the same year. Keilor believed it should have applied to 2024, not 2023.

Genuine question :So if Keilor believed the 45K over was part of the 2024 Cap, does that mean 2024's books read as only 65K in player payments to balance it out?...I don't understand that line of thought

 

[Humblebob]

Genuine question :So if Keilor believed the 45K over was part of the 2024 Cap, does that mean 2024's books read as only 65K in player payments to balance it out?...I don't understand that line of thought

The EDFL essentially let Keilor walk away from all this with the line of thinking that it was only a clerical error, i dont think there's any point of trying to make sense of it. Of course they were over the cap last year.

We are in the Lance Armstrong Era of local footy currently, Keilor knows it was over the cap, so does the league, so does every other club around them, because they all are too. The cap continues to get lowered but players still expect the same remuneration.

Here was a premium chance to enforce the rules they all agreed to put it in place but instead they chose to keep the status quo.

Too hard.

Farcical.

 

[Swoopingtime]

Any practice matches on this weekend?

 

[Turbos mail]

The EDFL essentially let Keilor walk away from all this with the line of thinking that it was only a clerical error, i dont think there's any point of trying to make sense of it. Of course they were over the cap last year.

We are in the Lance Armstrong Era of local footy currently, Keilor knows it was over the cap, so does the league, so does every other club around them, because they all are too. The cap continues to get lowered but players still expect the same remuneration.

Here was a premium chance to enforce the rules they all agreed to put it in place but instead they chose to keep the status quo.

Too hard.

Farcical.

Yes exactly. Had a great opportunity to put the foot down and make a statement they won’t stand for it and other clubs would have taken notice. But being Keilor they did what we expected and that was basically nothing. Absolute joke.

I believe a loss of say 16 match points (minus 4 games) and a points reduction of say 8 would have been a start plus senior coach gets suspended for 4 games. Now that would have created some noise and made a statement.
Keilor could still make finals and be fine with reduced points plus it would have made statement to senior coaches in footy..

 

[Del228913]

I agree that’s how it appears

45k?

 

[Del228913]

Yes exactly. Had a great opportunity to put the foot down and make a statement they won’t stand for it and other clubs would have taken notice. But being Keilor they did what we expected and that was basically nothing. Absolute joke.

I believe a loss of say 16 match points (minus 4 games) and a points reduction of say 8 would have been a start plus senior coach gets suspended for 4 games. Now that would have created some noise and made a statement.
Keilor could still make finals and be fine with reduced points plus it would have made statement to senior coaches in footy..

Exactly especially when other clubs in the state have copped worse for the next year playing

 

[Brass Tap]

Exactly especially when other clubs in the state have copped worse for the next year playing

I hope this isn’t keeping you up at night JP

 

[phill1722]

Keilor still saying we did nothing wrong it was just a admin error if that's the case why did they take the flag of you and also how come they didn't take the flag of keilor for the breach in 2022 even it's a dollar over still bloody cheating

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Genuine question :So if Keilor believed the 45K over was part of the 2024 Cap, does that mean 2024's books read as only 65K in player payments to balance it out?...I don't understand that line of thought

How could you understand? It hasn’t been explained. A club has been stripped of a premiership and the league has made no attempt to explain why.

A premiership isn’t being stripped because of a “timing” or “clerical” error that gave them no advantage.

Spin, spin, bullshit, spin.

Yes exactly. Had a great opportunity to put the foot down and make a statement they won’t stand for it and other clubs would have taken notice. But being Keilor they did what we expected and that was basically nothing. Absolute joke.

I believe a loss of say 16 match points (minus 4 games) and a points reduction of say 8 would have been a start plus senior coach gets suspended for 4 games. Now that would have created some noise and made a statement.
Keilor could still make finals and be fine with reduced points plus it would have made statement to senior coaches in footy..

If you’re looking for a statement / deterrent for other clubs, then you can’t punish the coach. MM is a big name and people want to cut him down but it’s generally not the role of coaches to do playing contracts.

Coaches don’t have responsibility and it’s not up to them to be learning details of every player contract.

 

[halfback10]

Keilor still saying we did nothing wrong it was just a admin error if that's the case why did they take the flag of you and also how come they didn't take the flag of keilor for the breach in 2022 even it's a dollar over still bloody cheating

.....maybe because they didn't win the flag in 2022

 

[Doona2]

Have I read this story correctly?

In a nutshell it seems the evidence has been freely handed over, and judge/jury have assessed and deliberated on what may actually have been a simple $45k typo or clerical mistake by a volunteer.
As a result an approximate $50 deduction per player per week is deemed noble, and the retention of player points and no ladder restraints the fair and logical outcome handed down by the folk who oversaw the process.

With practice games occurring, and Kayo once again buffering what will be the next big talking point in a week's time?