Strategy Curtin's role in 2025?

[spenze]

Well there was some info there that could have been kept in the locker room

 

[eaglevision]

No, he's a very poor defender. However, his main current problem is that he seems to have very little confidence and zip.
Whether it's him or our development is another question. This lack of confidence far outweighs any concerns about position.

Is he a poor defender or was he a victim of poor coaching by allowing him to be dragged deep into isolated match ups in his first couple of games?

Obviously I’m not inside the four walls but he doesn’t seem to know what his role is or where he fits into that team. Is it possible that’s where the perceived lack of confidence would be coming from?

 

[Peter Doherty]

In AFL matches, yes.

He's had very little exposure and not even played a game this year. Way too early.

 

[spenze]

I think we just all have to accept we need to get as full a season as we can into Dan, it'll pay off.

 

[spenze]

Is he a poor defender or was he a victim of poor coaching by allowing him to be dragged deep into isolated match ups in his first couple of games?

Obviously I’m not inside the four walls but he doesn’t seem to know what his role is or where he fits into that team. Is it possible that’s where the perceived lack of confidence would be coming from?

I think this season changes it all up, he will get more confidence the further the season goes on

 

[skam85]

Getthesekidsto50gamesofAFL

 

[eaglevision]

I think this season changes it all up, he will get more confidence the further the season goes on

Was never short of confidence as a junior!

 

[adelaidecrows]

Is he a poor defender or was he a victim of poor coaching by allowing him to be dragged deep into isolated match ups in his first couple of games?

Obviously I’m not inside the four walls but he doesn’t seem to know what his role is or where he fits into that team. Is it possible that’s where the perceived lack of confidence would be coming from?

The problem was we had injuries to cover in defence early and we lacked height. When we got Curtin, no doubt Nicks got it in his head to use him as a tall KP defender to add extra depth in that department. He however is not really ever been a KPD like that noting his role has generally been a midfielder, half back. So I think he was left learning the wrong role to what we initially drafted him for and what he was in his junior days. Plus he got injured and that didnt help.

The second half of the year the club threw him more around the middle and he drifted forward at times and started looking a lot better very quickly. So its no surprise the club and Nicks changed their mind about using his height and athletic prowess in a more attacking role. He will probably turn into the modern day Blicavs.

 

[Brenton Davy]

Was never short of confidence as a junior!

He’s just a little bit of a slower burn than most on here hoped a pick 6 would be. This is his first full preseason and I reckon he’ll be just fine. What Dawson said is pretty much spot on.

 

[adelaidecrows]

He’s just a little bit of a slower burn than most on here hoped a pick 6 would be. This is his first full preseason and I reckon he’ll be just fine. What Dawson said is pretty much spot on.

theres slower burn and then theres misused and bad coaching and destroying confidence.

 

[MrBarry]

In AFL matches, yes.

He's played 7 games ffs and in those 7 games his performances got steadily better.

Theres absolutely nowhere near enough sample size to say he struggles at AFL level.

 

[The Rocks]

Get[emoji122]these[emoji122]kids[emoji122]to[emoji122]50[emoji122]games[emoji122]of[emoji122]AFL[emoji122]

Which includes Dowling, Taylor, Ryan, Nankervis..

But this won't happen with a coach trying to save his job with a high ladder position. Even though these kids get him there!

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[NSolis]

Which includes Dowling, Taylor, Ryan, Nankervis..

But this won't happen with a coach trying to save his job with a high ladder position. Even though these kids get him there!

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Picking Curtin based on potential is fine, but part of having reasonable depth in the squad is that promising players will have to miss out. There's no way there's enough room to fit all of those guys into the team without dropping someone who is fully deserving of a spot. Even if you take the BF route and drop all of Milera, Crouch and Laird forever, that's still not enough spots.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Picking Curtin based on potential is fine, but part of having reasonable depth in the squad is that promising players will have to miss out. There's no way there's enough room to fit all of those guys into the team without dropping someone who is fully deserving of a spot. Even if you take the BF route and drop all of Milera, Crouch and Laird forever, that's still not enough spots.

It comes down to whether we think we have developed enough talent to be a genuine premiership contender now.

If yes, then by all means pick purely on a week to week basis. Best performing, win now.

If we think we'll need the likes of Draper and Curtin to become A Graders in order to genuinely contend, then take the required steps to make that happen.

 

[CDC60]

We've been crying out since Danger for an elite midfielder, with the build of Bont, Cripps or Tom Green and now we've landed one some supporters are jumping off and ready to move him on after seven games. Paddy averaged 14 possessions, with only six kicks, in 42 games in his first three seasons with the Crows.

Curtin has speed, agility, power, a long left peg and strong marking ability. The current skipper sees him as a dominant midfielder. He's going to be a gun. Happy 20th birthday for yesterday Dan, future Crows dual Premiership Captain and Brownlow medallist.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I'm still on the Curtin train. Trade Matthew Nicks instead.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

We've been crying out since Danger for an elite midfielder, with the build of Bont, Cripps or Tom Green and now we've landed one some supporters are jumping off and ready to move him on after seven games. Paddy averaged 14 possessions, with only six kicks, in 42 games in his first three seasons with the Crows.

Curtin has speed, agility, power, a long left peg and strong marking ability. The current skipper sees him as a dominant midfielder. He's going to be a gun. Happy 20th birthday for yesterday Dan, future Crows dual Premiership Captain and Brownlow medallist.

I think with smart coaching, we have an absolute gem in Curtin

That's where the trade talk comes from

 

[NSolis]

It comes down to whether we think we have developed enough talent to be a genuine premiership contender now.

If yes, then by all means pick purely on a week to week basis. Best performing, win now.

If we think we'll need the likes of Draper and Curtin to become A Graders in order to genuinely contend, then take the required steps to make that happen.

I agree with that, but in this case it's just about being realistic if you are talking about trying to get all of Nankervis, Taylor, Dowling and Ryan to 50 games, along with guys like Curtin, Draper, Max, Worrell etc. We obviously aren't picking all of of those guys in the team throughout the year to get their game count up.

At some stage you're looking at dropping mid-career players who are actually performing, which is a different proposition to say trying to squeeze Draper into the 23 over a more experienced player with a lower potential ceiling, or a Milera vs Nankervis type call.

 

[Crow till I die]

People are incredibly impatient, it would be the same posters who were insisting that we trade Fogarty earlier in his career, now he;s untouchable and we wouldn't consider it. I don't care if it takes another 2-3 years for Curtin to develop into a powerhouse, you don't just give up on that type of player 12 months into his career ffs...

BUT...i want us to make locking him away long term priority number 1. Then we can afford the luxury of him taking another 2 or 3 years as he will be on our list in our side, not back in Perth doing it.

 

[Peter Doherty]

I'm still on the Curtin train. Trade Matthew Nicks instead.

I'm still onboard. The ticket costs absolutely nothing.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I think with smart coaching, we have an absolute gem in Curtin

That's where the trade talk comes from

He's happy in Adelaide & there is no substance behind these rumours.

 

[SydCrow]

It's crazy that we traded up to pick him but don't know where to play him. It's like he's too good not to be playing but not yet good enough for any position.

Having said that, if he's got the tank I would put him on a wing. Let's give him the freedom to find out where he's most productive.

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[Caputo]

I am happy with the Wing move to Deep Key Fwd when filling in for ROB/TT when TT into Ruck. Some of the Tom Lynch connector role on the Wing and as an outlet marking option.

Additionally, I would mark the calendar for games against Carlton, Western Bulldogs, GWS and maybe Freo as a Inside Midfielder playing on Cripps, Bont, Green & possibly Fyfe. With Geelong head to head with Blivcas except no Ruck

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

It's crazy that we traded up to pick him but don't know where to play him. It's like he's too good not to be playing but not yet good enough for any position.

Having said that, if he's got the tank I would put him on a wing. Let's give him the freedom to find out where he's most productive.

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Yep

Our coaches splurged on the latest, most expensive, powerful computer that has all the bells and whistles but aren't sure how to turn it on

 

[Brenton Davy]

Yep

Our coaches splurged on the latest, most expensive, powerful computer that has all the bells and whistles but aren't sure how to turn it on

No.

We bought an expensive race car that needs to be set up to maximise its speed, braking and handling. That’s what the coaches have to find.