Autopsy AFL 2025 Round 1 - Tigers v Blues Thurs March 13th 7:30pm AEDT (MCG)

[captain cotch 9]

Carlton are 2-8 from their last 10 games with wins against North (Norf) and WCE....

 

[darcytiger]

This is the season opener and should continue to be.

 

[stevehawkington]

Same old Carlton. Nothing changes

What kind of wife beater yells at a bunch of kids/young dudes like that. Nice work giving them a great memory to start off the year

 

[HawthornHawk]

Tom Brown was super clean late

 

[jonnobackpocket]

How does Sam Walsh have 25 touches and no impact. Saad- ‘Woof’ followed by ‘oh $&@?, another turn over’, gold.

 

[voorhees]

the amount of work the blues make Cripps do is amazing.
man carries the team with very little support- making him ruck is playing with trouble.

 

[LuckyBounce!]

Carlton supporters were so arrogant all summer and this is such a massive reality check. They just aren’t that good and are 2 wins from there last 10 games now. Could easily finish bottom 4 with no first round draft picks!

 

[Pablito]

I just woke up from this nightmare that we lost to a bunch of boys who just got their first pubes. Oh wait..

 

[Elixuh]

Waking up and realising that actually happened last night, on cloud 9

 

[beema limapep]

Carlton supporters were so arrogant all summer and this is such a massive reality check. They just aren’t that good and are 2 wins from there last 10 games now.

It's the same story to varying degrees every year for decades.

All talk and no walk. They have achieved nothing.

 

[captain cotch 9]

Carlton fans calling for the "saviour coach" again is flipping hilarious!!!!
short memories???
Pagan?!?!?!
Malthouse?!?!?!

 

[Pistol Night]

I just woke up from this nightmare that we lost to a bunch of boys who just got their first pubes. Oh wait..

Sayers wasn't playing for Richmond was he?

 

[Pistol Night]

Carlton fans calling for the "saviour coach" again is flipping hilarious!!!!
short memories???
Pagan?!?!?!
Malthouse?!?!?!

Kingsley, Mitchell, McRae and now Yze with you boys have proved new blood is often a better policy than recycled goods

 

[Partridge]

the amount of work the blues make Cripps do is amazing.
man carries the team with very little support- making him ruck is playing with trouble.

Sheer insanity. Didn't he just win a Brownlow playing as a midfielder?

 

[tigerfan1961]

morris + cotton on + Joel Selwood?

Brown and Trainor also with club connections, reckon the Cats will get at least one of them eventually

Zero chance of that, they are a very tight group of youngsters at Tigerland and very committed to the cause.

 

[voorhees]

This is the season opener and should continue to be.

it's a easy one
yet.. not according to the AFL

 

[JackFlash]

Somehow i have managed to have a lot of friends who are Tigers supporters, (poor misguided fools) they had no confidence going into this game and were just hoping they were not going to get flogged. That of course should've happened, but Voss is not yet the boss of the Blues and they have a lot of problems. The Tigers may not win many more games, but they will be more than a headache on the odd occasion this year. The Blues on the other hand will struggle and have no one searching for the panadol!. Lalor, Trainor, Blight, Armstrong, Mansell are good players.

 

[beema limapep]

Kingsley, Mitchell, McRae and now Yze with you boys have proved new blood is often a better policy than recycled goods

Carlton have a culture of going for saviour players and coaches. It's a shallow, lazy way of trying to win without building properly. The easy sugar hit, and in a time of salary caps it's beyond stupid.

Yet their fans eat it up year after year. A champion team always beats a team of champions.

 

[Captain_Bender]

I wouldn't be surprised that Patrick Cripps goes to bed wishing Richmond picked him up with the pick before him back in 2013

 

[Pistol Night]

Carlton have a culture of going for saviour players and coaches. It's a shallow, lazy way of trying to win without building properly. The easy sugar hit, and in a time of salary caps it's beyond stupid.

Yet their fans eat it up year after year. A champion team always beats a team of champions.

Loved the look of Lalor, Campbell and young Trainor down back. Dare we say some nice "green shoots" at Tigerland

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

 

[SC_Power]

Some good news for Carlton. They have moved up into the top 4.

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See, another reason to scrap opening round.

They would have been top 2 otherwise.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

How does Sam Walsh have 25 touches and no impact. Saad- ‘Woof’ followed by ‘oh $&@?, another turn over’, gold.

Sam Walsh was about 60% fit last night. More a coaching issue then anything. He should have been the sub and came on at half time kinda thing if Voss was desperate to play him

Looking back at the team named and you gotta wonder WTF Voss was thinking. Firstly Lewis Young has to play. Putting Cripps in the ruck steals your best midfielder away anyway so you can play Nick Haynes whose cooked as cooked can be. Play Young in defense and have him follow the 2nd ruck into the middle.

Secondly, in what planet is Ashtoin Moir not ahead of Francis Evans. He showed a bit last year IMO. If he cant get a game ahead of Evans he should have been delisted last year... even if under contract

The problem was run out of defense and now its even worse. Zac Williams should go back into defense and figure it out. Trying to handhold the guy cos you dont wanna hurt his feelings and giving him the easy way out is shocking coaching

Lastly if your game plan of losing a forward is to not bother playing another forward til he gets back, your structure is probably going to fall apart. If Curnow is out, Silvagini plays CHF. I dont really know why that one wasnt a day 1 obvious move

Voss to me is a good man manager, a shocking coach and last night shows it. No plan B

 

[Frank Thring]

Gees imagine if Richmond had a coach with aura

 

[Partridge]

Somehow i have managed to have a lot of friends who are Tigers supporters, (poor misguided fools) they had no confidence going into this game and were just hoping they were not going to get flogged. That of course should've happened, but Voss is not yet the boss of the Blues and they have a lot of problems. The Tigers may not win many more games, but they will be more than a headache on the odd occasion this year. The Blues on the other hand will struggle and have no one searching for the panadol!. Lalor, Trainor, Blight, Armstrong, Mansell are good players.

While no one would have planned for Richmond to be where they are (I'm completely unconvinced that any club needs to bottom out, but sometimes crap happens and you end up in that spot), there can be a benefit having a lot of young players given opportunities. The enthusiasm and energy immediately goes up, and critically, Yze had them simply all doing a role. Plus after quarter time they just worked harder.

Looking through the stats afterwards, unsurprisingly those who the most all game impact were more experienced. Jack Ross has now played 71 games, right where intermittent performance can start to translate to consistent performance (if he's good enough). That's the best game I've ever seen him play. Same for Miller, and I'm sure he copped it early on from Richmond fans. Thomson Dow has now played 35 games and clearly looks like there's something to work with. So just from those three, yet again, maybe 5 games isn't near enough to work out how good someone is, and it takes 30-50 games before you really get an indication.

They're still going to be down the ladder, they're going to cop some beltings, and the young guys will all have stinkers on occasion. But it's not unreasonable to think what they all need now is another 40-50 games to be much more seasoned and competitive.