Player Watch Ed Allan

[Fat Jesus]

Swoop Luke makes the case for Ed very well and backs it with stats.

Ed will play in my opinion. Someone is injured and Ed will step in. I think it will be Josh. We shall see

 

[jmac70]

Ed will play in my opinion. Someone is injured and Ed will step in. I think it will be Josh. We shall see

Josh named in the centre, I think he’ll be ok.
Allan will get back in, just not this week.

 

[sr36]

Swoop Luke makes the case for Ed very well and backs it with stats.

Stats don't tell us about his instructions and positioning - nor do they show how effective he was in terms of contest and defence. It's a pressure act if you're flat footed, let your opponent get a break and then chase them futilely.

 

[Jen2310]

Josh named in the centre, I think he’ll be ok.
Allan will get back in, just not this week.

Josh wont play there. You'll find come game day, he will be swapped with perryman on field.

 

[jmac70]

Josh wont play there. You'll find come game day, he will be swapped with perryman on field.

Maybe so, but the fact he is named in the starting 18 gives me hope he will play.
Howe on the other hand still looks shaky

 

[Jen2310]

Maybe so, but the fact he is named in the starting 18 gives me hope he will play.
Howe on the other hand still looks shaky

I guess there always has to be a 7th defender on the bench, but yeah, I thought that too. About Howe. We'll see how he goes in today's captain's run.

 

[Kappa]

Allan's pressure was poor and his kicking was poor, makes sense for him to be dropped on one hand, on the other hand we are bloody slow and he added a lot of energy to the midfield

 

[domus]

Stats don't tell us about his instructions and positioning - nor do they show how effective he was in terms of contest and defence. It's a pressure act if you're flat footed, let your opponent get a break and then chase them futilely.

Of course, stats like possessions can be misleading, but pressure acts indicate a player's intensity and willingness to compete, and he was ranked fourth for pressure acts.

 

[sr36]

Of course, stats like possessions can be misleading, but pressure acts indicate a player's intensity and willingness to compete, and he was ranked fourth for pressure acts.

Not necessarily. They measure chasing, corralling, closing, tackling - not how intensely that's done or how or why you're in that position.

 

[dardy33]

Think he has all the tools to be a good footballer, but needs to find more desperation. Hard to have him and Lapinski anywhere near each other.

 

[domus]

Domus, do you honestly think he knows more than any of our coaches? I’m a little disappointed Allan was dropped to, but I won’t pretend like I know more than the coaches. We all want him to succeed but perhaps maybe he’s just not up to it yet.
There’s def been conversations behind closed doors and he will know what he needs to improve on

But we all have eyes. Not up to it? And Ned Long is? I've followed the game long enough to know that being an AFL coach or assistant is no proof of infallibility when it comes to selection and recruiting. We've all had times where we have been screaming for a positional move to be made all through a game and then the coach finally makes the move late in the game and it pays off. And you wonder what in the hell they were watching for them to take so long to do the bleeding obvious.

 

[Buckley is my hero]

That Allan gets dropped while the 36 yo Scott Pendlebury is nursed to an AFL games record is an indictment of a bewildering club list strategy that begun with the recruitment of Schultz and continues to this day with the recruitment of Membrey. Fly's statement that he wants players, not draft picks, will hurt the club for the next five years until we start rejuvenating the list with high quality draft picks such as the ones that Richmond picked up and contributed to their win against Carlton.

 

[sr36]

That Allan gets dropped while the 36 yo Scott Pendlebury is nursed to an AFL games record is an indictment of a bewildering club list strategy that begun with the recruitment of Schultz and continues to this day with the recruitment of Membrey. Fly's statement that he wants players, not draft picks, will hurt the club for the next five years until we start rejuvenating the list with high quality draft picks such as the ones that Richmond picked up and contributed to their win against Carlton.

You've got your timeframes way out. Adding mature 26 year old senior players like Houston, Perryman and Schultz is going to make us significantly better over the next 5 years than adding an extra first round 18 year old this year and next. It's after 5 years that we might pay a price if our lower rated kids don't come through and we can't keep adding senior players at the rate we have the last few years.

 

[Professor Knowall]

So lots of opinions here on why Allan was dropped. Now we have Fly’s version, from the post game presser -

What was your decision making around omitting Ed Allan from the team?

"It really did come down to role. I'm desperate to keep Ed in the team. I openly go to match committee saying 'nah, we're going to play Ed Allan'. We want Ed Allan to make it in our team and he'll play games, guaranteed he'll be playing games when he's playing his role and things. This week, we brought [Lachie] Sullivan in to play a different role and ultimately it came down to that. It's a tough decision too. I sweat on those ones, they keep me up at night. We want Ed to make it in our team".

 

[Pistol Night]

So lots of opinions here on why Allan was dropped. Now we have Fly’s version, from the post game presser -

What was your decision making around omitting Ed Allan from the team?

Flys rational, fact based reason seems the best one

 

[manicpie]

So lots of opinions here on why Allan was dropped. Now we have Fly’s version, from the post game presser -

What was your decision making around omitting Ed Allan from the team?

It was always just a team balance decision. Ed struggled when put in the midfield but played most of the game on the wing, where he played quite well.

 

[northcotehead]

I know there are alot of Lippa lovers on here but I reckon Allan should be playing his role. Can't do much worse and has a higher ceiling. Can't see Lippa improving much and Allan can be anything.

 

[JoinDate]

That Allan gets dropped while the 36 yo Scott Pendlebury is nursed to an AFL games record is an indictment of a bewildering club list strategy that begun with the recruitment of Schultz and continues to this day with the recruitment of Membrey. Fly's statement that he wants players, not draft picks, will hurt the club for the next five years until we start rejuvenating the list with high quality draft picks such as the ones that Richmond picked up and contributed to their win against Carlton.

You can still delete this.

 

[sr36]

I know there are alot of Lippa lovers on here but I reckon Allan should be playing his role. Can't do much worse and has a higher ceiling. Can't see Lippa improving much and Allan can be anything.

Go to the AFL app and check out the tracker section:

Lipinski covered the most KMs of any player (both teams)
2nd most high speed KMs
Top 5 for average speed of running
Top 5 for repeat sprints
Number 1 for defensive KMs.

And had 24 disposals, mostly kicks, at 79% efficiency. With a goal and 7 score involvements.

He's not being left out.

 

[OniAu]

Go to the AFL app and check out the tracker section:

Lipinski covered the most KMs of any player (both teams)
2nd most high speed KMs
Top 5 for average speed of running
Top 5 for repeat sprints
Number 1 for defensive KMs.

And had 24 disposals, mostly kicks, at 79% efficiency. With a goal and 7 score involvements.

He's not being left out.

Without seeing those stats. The eye test he wouldve been in my top 5 easily on the ground

 

[sr36]

Without seeing those stats. The eye test he wouldve been in my top 5 easily on the ground

Yeah he was. He's not always great on the eye test as he loses sprints and isn't great in a contest, but if you want to win games on the back of pressure and run like we do, you need blokes who do a heap of positional running to take out their options and set up the ground for you. And if that bloke is also really solid with ball in hand, he's going to get a game every week like Lippa does, even when the eye test is questionable.

It's not favouritism like some seem to think. He's an outstanding runner who makes us better. Hopefully Ed can add the same as he develops.

 

[Jelly Bean]

I know there are alot of Lippa lovers on here but I reckon Allan should be playing his role. Can't do much worse and has a higher ceiling. Can't see Lippa improving much and Allan can be anything.

But you are talking about what they could become in the future. Fly is picking the team to win that day, not to develop/improve and be better in 12 months.

He must have judged Lipinski right now to be better than Allan right now, and I don't disagree (even though I don't rate Lipinski all that highly).

Either way, he said that he chose Sullivan instead of Allan to play a specific role - so maybe there isn't a need for that role next week and Allan can come back in.

 

[sr36]

Either way, he said that he chose Sullivan instead of Allan to play a specific role - so maybe there isn't a need for that role next week and Allan can come back in.

It was coach speak I think. They're going to play similar positions, but at the moment Sullivan is harder and smarter without the ball, but he's not going to say that about a young player.

 

[Drought Break]

Go to the AFL app and check out the tracker section:

Lipinski covered the most KMs of any player (both teams)
2nd most high speed KMs
Top 5 for average speed of running
Top 5 for repeat sprints
Number 1 for defensive KMs.

And had 24 disposals, mostly kicks, at 79% efficiency. With a goal and 7 score involvements.

He's not being left out.

Lippa played his best game in about a year, good to see

 

[sr36]

Lippa played his best game in about a year, good to see

Those running stats are pretty standard for Lippa. And he played a fair few games last year where he was similar with ball in hand. It's why he's a regular. It wasn't an unusual game from him.