List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[TerryFilk]

Go to the draft with 1,2 and Hawks first

Trade all our 2nds and 3rds to move up as high as possible - Port’s first that the Suns own looks like the best target as things stand, I really want Josh Lindsay, best kick in the draft and he’d be a god send for this list.

If Harley wants to leave he can go to Essendon for theirs and Melbourne’s first.

I don’t think any of these things are unrealistic, theoretically we could go to the draft with 1,2,3, 6,7 and Hawthorn’s first.

Duursma, Sharp, Curtin, CDT, Lindsay, Walley, Evans and potentially Banfield would be a pretty handy haul.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Most of the elite mids come from top 5 picks. While no guarantee, the percentages are certainly in favour.

Cripps, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Neale, Mitchell, Selwood, Serong, Yeo, Butters, Warner among a littany of others who say hi.

Your conviction that our second top 5 pick MUST be spent on a mid is unnecessarily restricting our own choices.

All I'm saying is that it's round 5, we don't even know what we have, or how the draft is going to pan out, and we should make draft choices based on best available, and how we view the talent already on our list.

I'm so sorry that nuance is beyond you.

 

[Schtinker]

Ladder
WCE 18th, PORT 12th, HAW 4th

FA
Oscar Band 1 (Pick 2), Petch Band 5 (Pick 39), Cole Band 5 (Pick 40

Picks
1,2,15,19,33,39,40

15,19,33,39,40‎ = 2,646 points = pick 1/2

Trade
GCS: 2,646 points for Pick 7, Ned Moyle, Alex Davies

Draft
1-Sharp
2-Rodriguez/Curtin
7-Curtin/Cumming
2/3R Deficit for NGA/FSs

So who are you saying is going

Retire : Sheed - Cripps
Delist : Kelly - Hunt
Trade : Allen - Petrucelle - Cole

Do we persist with Brockman, Brock, Bazzo, Barnett, Chesser, H.Edwards, Flynn, Jamieson, Livingstone, Rawlinson?

That's a lot to carry.

How many more games do we get out of Yeo and McGovern?

It's a pretty dire list and we have the doyens of Vic media telling us it's all self inflicted and we shouldn't get Priority Picks.

Whats the draft depth like this year? I'm not sure we should be selling our latter picks to upgrade.

 

[eaglevision]

So who are you saying is going

Retire : Sheed - Cripps
Delist : Kelly - Hunt
Trade : Allen - Petrucelle - Cole

Do we persist with Brockman, Brock, Bazzo, Barnett, Chesser, H.Edwards, Flynn, Jamieson, Livingstone, Rawlinson?

That's a lot to carry.

How many more games do we get out of Yeo and McGovern?

It's a pretty dire list and we have the doyens of Vic media telling us it's all self inflicted and we shouldn't get Priority Picks.

Whats the draft depth like this year? I'm not sure we should be selling our latter picks to upgrade.

Also delist Bazzo, Jamo, Livingstone, Rawlinson and possibly Brock. I’d try and swap BWilliams and Chesser for Zach Reid to link up with his brother.

Draft depth is average but has a very strong top 8 or so. The problem is after about pick 20 this year becomes so compromised that any picks we have after that will end up blowing out then have to be used to match our NGAs and essentially wasted.

In my view, the smart move is to package picks up to extract maximum points value for when GCS have to match an early bid on Uwland.

15,19,33,39,40‎ = 2,646 points = pick 1/2.

Will be very attractive to GCS having to pay for Uwland, Addinsall etc.
Offer Moyle and Davies strong contracts with AFL games offer and then players, managers and Suns are happy. They will both be pissed off they aren’t playing much this year.

We pick up two B22 players in desperate areas of need and get a pick that means we get two top mids and Curtin then still get our NGAs.

 

[UseR2006]

Duursma, Sharp, Curtin, CDT, Lindsay, Walley, Evans and potentially Banfield would be a pretty handy haul.

Assuming for a second that is the haul, who are you delisting.

 

[Elite Pete]

Ladder
WCE 18th, PORT 12th, HAW 4th

FA
Oscar Band 1 (Pick 2), Petch Band 5 (Pick 39), Cole Band 5 (Pick 40

Picks
1,2,15,19,33,39,40

15,19,33,39,40‎ = 2,646 points = pick 1/2

Trade
GCS: 2,646 points for Pick 7, Ned Moyle, Alex Davies

Draft
1-Sharp
2-Rodriguez/Curtin
7-Curtin/Cumming
2/3R Deficit for NGA/FSs

Yep it’s been that sort of start to the season we have to start doing this to make us feel half decent.

I think Harley’s gone.

MSD- Best available (Tom McCarthy*)

Trade/DFA
-2 of Davies, Erasmus, Sheldrick, Dev, Setterfeild type
-1 Ruck - Crossley if we can’t get anyone else.

1- Sharp (our pick)
2- Rodriguez (Oscar Compo)
4- Curtin (Via Dees Harley)
7- Cumming (Bundle)
8- Josh Lindsay (Via Dons Harley)
Match Evans, Walley, Banifeld

Out
Oscar
Harley
Sheed
Jamieson
Livingstone*
Hunt
Petrucelle
Rawlinson
Kelly
Cole*
Chesser*

Extend
Cripps (1 year)
Dewar
Hutchinson
Brock
Brockman (1 year)
Bazzo (1 year)

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The people who sat in a room and thought “yeah I think Rawlinson will provide this team more then Parfitt” must have smoked one of the strongest joints of all time when making that decision. I hope they were for their sakes anyway

 

[new breed]

Parfitt 19 disposals in 1.5 quarters ... The Accumulator .

 

[eaglevision]

Yep it’s been that sort of start to the season we have to start doing this to make us feel half decent.

I think Harley’s gone.

MSD- Best available (Tom McCarthy*)

Trade/DFA
-2 of Davies, Erasmus, Sheldrick, Dev, Setterfeild type
-1 Ruck - Crossley if we can’t get anyone else.

1- Sharp (our pick)
2- Rodriguez (Oscar Compo)
4- Curtin (Via Dees Harley)
7- Cumming (Bundle)
8- Josh Lindsay (Via Dons Harley)
Match Evans, Walley, Banifeld

Out
Oscar
Harley
Sheed
Jamieson
Livingstone*
Hunt
Petrucelle
Rawlinson
Kelly
Cole*
Chesser*

Extend
Cripps (1 year)
Dewar
Hutchinson
Brock
Brockman (1 year)
Bazzo (1 year)

Brockman has another year on his contract. Cripps probably deserves a look at another year but in our state I’d rather see Hammer play that role higher up the ground.

Can’t fault your picks, that’s exactly what I’d do with them but I still hope and think Harley stays. No way I’d only accept only those two 1Rs for him anyway.

If Flynn and BWill keep performing the way they are Crossley would have to be on the MSD radar.

 

[JackOutback]

Most of the elite mids come from top 5 picks. While no guarantee, the percentages are certainly in favour.

Is this true? Top mids in the past decade have include Fyfe, Dangerfield, Cripps, Neale, Martin and Petracca. Two in the top 5, four outside of it.

EDIT:Beaten to it.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Is this true? Top mids in the past decade have include Fyfe, Dangerfield, Cripps, Neale, Martin and Petracca. Two in the top 5, four outside of it.

EDIT:Beaten to it.

If you split them onto groups, yes. Danger is too far back. Guys like him don't slip through anymore. Clubs have worked out that outside mids are a poor choice with a top 5 pick

 

[amazingjoshy]

Oh good

The percentage discussion again

 

[Elite Pete]

Brockman has another year on his contract. Cripps probably deserves a look at another year but in our state I’d rather see Hammer play that role higher up the ground.

Can’t fault your picks, that’s exactly what I’d do with them but I still hope and think Harley stays. No way I’d only accept only those two 1Rs for him anyway.

If Flynn and BWill keep performing the way they are Crossley would have to be on the MSD radar.

Yeah. Just went off footywire. Have seen before people saying they have Brockmans contract wrong.

I think we also need run and creativity off HBF and McCarthy by all reports gives that and early number 1 pick fav.

Another injury to Jamieson before MSD wouldn’t be the worse thing so we can get 2. Did like his form early in 2024.

Crossley I think in the best in the state game today as well.

The hope is Harley does stay and pair him with the picks 1 and 2. Ideally we’d have our own Dusty (Harley) Rowell (Sharp) Noah Anderson (Duursma/Rodriguez) Sloane (Gross) for at least the next 4 years minimum.

His management and socials are definitely trolling like he might but until he signs.
Next 5 games will tell a lot imo.

 

[eaglevision]

Yeah. Just went off footywire. Have seen before people saying they have Brockmans contract wrong.

I think we also need run and creativity off HBF and McCarthy by all reports gives that and early number 1 pick fav.

Another injury to Jamieson before MSD wouldn’t be the worse thing so we can get 2. Did like his form early in 2024.

Crossley I think in the best in the state game today as well.

The hope is Harley does stay and pair him with the picks 1 and 2. Ideally we’d have our own Dusty (Harley) Rowell (Sharp) Noah Anderson (Duursma/Rodriguez) Sloane (Gross) for at least the next 4 years minimum.

His management and socials are definitely trolling like he might but until he signs.
Next 5 games will tell a lot imo.

FW is pretty good but they do get a few wrong. HBF we could have slid again and taken Harrison Oliver last year but didn’t and we’ve got Garrison Kenh coming next year who will play that role perfectly in the future. Will be interesting to see what approach we take to the MSD, I’d be fine with Crossley.

I like that we’ve approached Harley with our best offer off the bat. Good move.

 

[Smotie2]

Trump said he'd stop the ukraine war day one.
Hitler said he wouldnt invade poland

Clinton said he didn't have sexual relations with that woman

 

[Elite Pete]

The boys are bonding together already

 

[bzparkes]

Oh good

The percentage discussion again

 

[Goroyals22]

Brockman has another year on his contract. Cripps probably deserves a look at another year but in our state I’d rather see Hammer play that role higher up the ground.

Can’t fault your picks, that’s exactly what I’d do with them but I still hope and think Harley stays. No way I’d only accept only those two 1Rs for him anyway.

If Flynn and BWill keep performing the way they are Crossley would have to be on the MSD radar.

Is this the same crossley that the bulldogs had with them and went , nah he is way to unfit to be playing afl…. Sounds perfect for us

 

[eaglevision]

Is the the same crossley that the bulldogs had with them and went , nah he is way to unfit to be playing afl…. Sounds perfect for us

They have an above average ruck on their list. We don’t even have a below average ruck on our list.

And he’s nasty.

 

[UseR2006]

You know, This might be an unpopular thought.
Should have a chat to Gawn and Trac, say "hey I know we're shit, but.. We're not Melbourne and we have Harley.
Would be nice to have a decent mid and ruck for the team to lean on, even if it was only for 1-2 seasons before they hung the boots up.

The other thing to note is we are not just drafting for the B22, we need depth, we need quality depth. I don't want Gross getting injured and having to turn to Petch to provide cover. We need enough quality Mids to both help the WAFL and help the AFL squads.

I'd like to see us focus on High end Mids with the first 2 picks then go for KPD as we need a few good ones.

 

[WCE777]

Long way out to make predictions but let’s not that stop us.

I think we will be doing everything we can get that Power pick if it’s top 10 even a future first could be on the table. Even that is probably only up for sale if Rowell stays. If not they will go shopping and it will be very inviting if the season trends like this.

Sharp or Duursma
+
Curtin
+
Rodriguez.

With Harley, Hewett, Grego, Ginbey*, Bo*

That’s plenty of upside if they get the draft right. Get them right the KPP should be the right age to come through with them.

Still need to find someone if not 2 to help support that for the next 2 years beside an injury prone Yeo. Im not sure who that will be.

Need to find two players who can move the ball and make the right decisions off half back. Not sure who they will be. One could be Duursma or Rodriguez. Will Powell? Doubt he wishes to leave but we will have a lot of coin post Oscar and Kelly

this
agree with most of your thoughts, the 2 mids to help the kids for the next 2-3 years and have elite standards and leadership are a must.
Our current leaders outside of Gov and Baker currently have no real leadership, Duggan and Oscar might be fine in the leadership group but they lack leadership on the field.

 

[TerryFilk]

Assuming for a second that is the haul, who are you delisting.

Allen - leaves via FA
Jamieson
Chesser - would give him one last chance, but can’t see him making it
Sheed
Petrucelle
Cripps (retires)
Hunt
Rawlinson
Kelly
Cole

50/50 on Livingstone and Brockman

 

[maverick001]

No way do you go needs with top 5 picks. You go with best talent. If we have two picks in the draft at 2,3 we could easily take a mid and Curtin, then use the Hawks pick and then bid on Evans (a mid).

The idea that drafting Curtin means we don't address our midfield is a bit far fetched. We have a lot of picks to use. Even if we trade for Warner, he's a mid so he's addressing our midfield too.

If Warner comes (doubt it) and we take Curtin top 2, even if Allen leaves we don’t have another top 10 pick for a young mid.
And this has been our number 1 need by a country mile for about 4 years and we’re still a long way from having addressed it in a satisfactory manner

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

If Warner comes (doubt it) and we take Curtin top 2, even if Allen leaves we don’t have another top 10 pick for a young mid.
And this has been our number 1 need by a country mile for about 4 years and we’re still a long way from having addressed it in a satisfactory manner

Warner isn't coming.

That's the whole premise of the conversation.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Warner isn't coming.

That's the whole premise of the conversation.

I don't think he was ever any chance of coming. I hope the club didn't waste too much time and resources chasing that rabbit.