List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[maverick001]

Warner isn't coming.

That's the whole premise of the conversation.

I agree it seems unlikely he comes but the end of your post you said even if we trade for Warner we’ve addressed our midfield. Ie that we the other top 2/3 pick on Curtin. But then we haven’t taken a top mid from the current crop. Which I think is an issue

 

[maverick001]

If we do have 1 and 2 I think there’s sense in drafting 2 mids as the can band together to take on the responsibility to lead the midfield (not straight away), help support each other. There’s not so much focus or reliance on just 1.
This is the sense I get from how Rowell/Anderson have benefited from it.

 

[Cuzz09]

The best thing for us is for Warner to sign a 2 year deal and we bank the pick and money to get him in free agency. He changes too little to get now as opposed to just waiting the 2 years.

Would not take a single experienced player this year. Has only been disastrous for us in the last few tries to let it be for now and just take the draft only approach

Yeah as much as it'd be cool to see Warner kick a few goals for us we need

The boys are bonding together already

who dat?

 

[Dark Sharks]

If we do have 1 and 2 I think there’s sense in drafting 2 mids as the can band together to take on the responsibility to lead the midfield (not straight away), help support each other. There’s not so much focus or reliance on just 1.
This is the sense I get from how Rowell/Anderson have benefited from it.

This idea sounds cool in theory, like the whole Rowell/Anderson thing, but I'd warn it's not always the case.

Remember last year when we were all talking up how great it'd be to have Hewett this year partnering up with Harley, and how exciting it'll be having 2 explosive mids leading our team?

One of them has been deported to the backline because he's not fit enough to play mid, whilst the other can't even get on the park and cops a multi week injury from playing 1 quarter as the sub.

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

 

[bzparkes]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

Poor Archer. Can't blame him though

 

[Mudguts12]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

Mmmmmm very nice.

I'm hoping that these rumours were whispered in a breathless and intoxicating way during your backyard session?

 

[squashface]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

Can’t really begrudge any young player who wants to have an actual meaningful career for leaving this dumpster fire of a club tbh.

 

[ziad]

this
agree with most of your thoughts, the 2 mids to help the kids for the next 2-3 years and have elite standards and leadership are a must.
Our current leaders outside of Gov and Baker currently have no real leadership, Duggan and Oscar might be fine in the leadership group but they lack leadership on the field.

I suspect you are right, sorry, but our woke club has in the past confused leadership with popularity and welfare. I do however see some light at the end of the tunnel with Mini.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

This idea sounds cool in theory, like the whole Rowell/Anderson thing, but I'd warn it's not always the case.

Remember last year when we were all talking up how great it'd be to have Hewett this year partnering up with Harley, and how exciting it'll be having 2 explosive mids leading our team?

One of them has been deported to the backline because he's not fit enough to play mid, whilst the other can't even get on the park and cops a multi week injury from playing 1 quarter as the sub.

So we keep picking them until we find them. Hewett and Ginbey may yet develop, but we can't count on that. So go again. This time, don't split picks. Just take the best available mid.

 

[Patron]

Cripps, Fyfe, Dangerfield, Neale, Mitchell, Selwood, Serong, Yeo, Butters, Warner among a littany of others who say hi.

Your conviction that our second top 5 pick MUST be spent on a mid is unnecessarily restricting our own choices.

All I'm saying is that it's round 5, we don't even know what we have, or how the draft is going to pan out, and we should make draft choices based on best available, and how we view the talent already on our list.

I'm so sorry that nuance is beyond you.

If the draft was tomorrow and we had picks 1 and 2 there would basically only be 3 real choices.
Sharp, Duursma and Cooper Duff Tytler.

The club would basically be choosing which one of those 3 to miss out on and I honestly have no idea who we would choose outside of interviews/go home factor. It may come down to how the club rates Barnett, Williams internally vs hall, allan, gross because depending which group they are more worried about we may feel we need a ruck/mid.

We would have Hawks F1 and our second to package up/move around to grab somebody else we want to target in the draft like a Curtin/Rodriguez/Lindsay.

I would go with Sharp and Duursma personally.
I wouldn't hold any concerns around ending up with too many mids at this stage as Duursma and Reid could easily be played as flankers. I reckon Duursma could float back a lot and really help with our movement out of defence.

 

[ziad]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

I am interested in the term EX - a synonym for bitter loosers?

 

[WCErevival]

How can you be ex staff but still be involved with the club?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Caught up with some ex WCE staff tonight, that are still involved with the club.

Nice intimate backyard evening.

Reid is gone. Doesn't want to be here

How was Whore Island?

 

[swingdog]

Am leaning towards accepting Harley is likely gone and Oscar can be happily farewelled.

This is actually the re-set the the club needs. No more focus on a "hero pick", head down and work on developing a solid group of kids that is going to come through together. Draft Richmond style.

The picks these events would generate, as well as those from our own incompetence should be the basis of the future.

I'd like the PP but would also be happy with the AFL easing up the soft cap to provide additional coaching support.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I am interested in the term EX - a synonym for bitter loosers?

"ex" and "still involved with the club" raised a red flag. I guess they still could be talking to people inside the club.

I think Harley leaves, but not going to get my knickers in a twist over all the articles and pressure that will come over the next 18 months. I hope he stays, but if he leaves, so be it.

 

[Jumpoff Joey]

I would expect the club to really open the floor to Harley's management and ask what is the club missing, it gets done this year or to maximise value we shake hands and he goes at the end of the season (assuming Essendon - x3 R1).

Oscar also sails into the sunset and go into the draft for argument sake with;
Pick 1, 2, 3, 6, 14, 17, 19, 36 and 54

Sharp, Curtin, Duursma, Freddy Rodriguez - If it make sense to get into 2026 do a deal to change it up the following year but the rest of the picks should be used for Evans, Walley and Banfield.

 

[eaglevision]

Sharp, Curtin, Duursma, Freddy Rodriguez - If it make sense to get into 2026 do a deal to change it up the following year but the rest of the picks should be used for Evans, Walley and Banfield.

With McGlade and Kenh looming as 1R picks it wouldn’t make much sense to trade into next year, the picks will most likely just get burnt.

 

[eaglevision]

Watch LIVE from 1.30pm AEST: Australia U18 v Richmond VFL

Watch the stars of the future when the Marsh AFL National Academy Boys squad takes on Richmond's VFL team on Sunday

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Academy game preview and stream for those interested. Will be a great watch to see who we would be turning Oscar and allegedly Harley into. Unlikely to get a better look at most of the top end prospects all at once than this game and the one in a fortnight until the futures game on grand final day.

Australia U18 squad​

#	NAME	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Thomas Burton	Western Jets	Point Cook
2	Beau Addinsall	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Burleigh
3	Lachlan Carmichael	Sydney Swans Academy	Mosman
4	Willem Duursma	Gippsland Power	Foster
5	Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves	Dandenong Stingrays	Mornington
6	Josh Lindsay	Geelong Falcons	Newtown & Chilwell
7	Dylan Patterson	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Palm Beach Currumbin
8	Ben Rongdit	Geelong Falcons	Colac
9	Zeke Uwland	Gold Coast Suns Academy	Burleigh
10	Wesley Walley	Subiaco	Warwick Greenwood
20	Daniel Annable	Brisbane Lions Academy	Redland-Victoria Point
21	Harley Barker	Sturt	Mt Barker
22	Noah Chamberlain	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney
23	Samuel Cumming	North Adelaide	Wentworth District
24	Louis Emmett	Oakleigh Chargers	Glen Iris
25	Koby Evans	Perth	Federals
26	Oliver Greeves	Eastern Ranges	Vermont
27	Taj Murray	Northern Territory Academy North Adelaide	Nightcliff
28	Riley Onley	Murray Bushrangers	Shepparton United
29	Fred Rodriguez	South Fremantle	Fremantle City Dockers
30	Dyson Sharp	Central District	Barossa District
31	Cody Curtin	Claremont	West Coast
34	Cooper Duff-Tytler	Calder Cannons	Woodend-Hesket
35	Jasper Hay	Tasmania Devils	Clarence
36	Liam Hetherton	Murray Bushrangers	North Albury
37	Matthew LeRay	Central District	Golden Grove
38	Archie Ludowyke	Sandringham Dragons	East Sandringham
39	Kalani White	Gold Coast Suns Academy

 

[beagles]

If the draft was tomorrow and we had picks 1 and 2 there would basically only be 3 real choices.
Sharp, Duursma and Cooper Duff Tytler.

The club would basically be choosing which one of those 3 to miss out on and I honestly have no idea who we would choose outside of interviews/go home factor. It may come down to how the club rates Barnett, Williams internally vs hall, allan, gross because depending which group they are more worried about we may feel we need a ruck/mid.

We would have Hawks F1 and our second to package up/move around to grab somebody else we want to target in the draft like a Curtin/Rodriguez/Lindsay.

I would go with Sharp and Duursma personally.
I wouldn't hold any concerns around ending up with too many mids at this stage as Duursma and Reid could easily be played as flankers. I reckon Duursma could float back a lot and really help with our movement out of defence.

We ̀need an elite ruck and CDT fits that profile

 

[Aarick13]

Sharp, Curtin, Duursma, Freddy Rodriguez - If it make sense to get into 2026 do a deal to change it up the following year but the rest of the picks should be used for Evans, Walley and Banfield.

If Harley leaves there is no chance we take Duursma. He will leave during his first contract and we won't get the same value back in return.

 

[squashface]

Sharp is a must if we have pick 1. Need to refill our quota of gun SA players.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

We ̀need an elite ruck and CDT fits that profile

I have some question marks as to whether he is ‘the right’ ruck for us.

He’s undersized at 200cm, isn’t a hit out winning ruckman, and isn’t that strong aerially but elite around the ground.

He’s a Grundy clone and I’m not sure that’s what we need.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If Harley leaves how do we meet the salary cap minimum btw?

That 2 mill will just be sitting in a hole surely. We can frontload perhaps Waterman, Baker, Hough and Ginbey but that would be a bit overkill and maybe not enough. We also then cant take a free agent on as it will dilute Oscars value too

Even though I dont want us to take a mature ager on we might simply have no choice. Itd be a case of picking up a AFL quality player on a crazyish contract to make it happen. Honestly couldnt even imagine who that could be we are that far off. Maybe we give Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

32

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

1.5 mill a year to finish up in Perth instead of him going to Freo as something completely absurd?

A issue worth thinking about for sure

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Agree with the highlighted section on rucks, and am not really a huge fan of us taking CDT.

If Oscar leaves and Chad resigns we could take Rodriguez, Curtin, mid at Hawks pick, match a bid on Evans.

That's 3 mids and Curtin and not including potential bids on Walley or Banfield.

We are going to be fine with the draft, we will have ample picks to address needs across the list, without neglecting midfield.

Except, if we aren't asking questions of established talent elsewhere, who have 60+ games and some leadership then just end up being a squad of 18-21 up kids like suns and GWS were. We have to be into someone. We have to be exploring. We have the cash to splash, it's time to use it, pay overs. Not sure who is available.